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[MerchantGOL]

Jake71887 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...
no iam not trying, as hard as it may be for you to grasp, not every one that disagrees with you, and thinks you all are being childish is, bought off /dub/ or trolling

I've seen your posts in other threads, you are both insulting and borederline troll material, so he may be onto something.

Its not trolling to disagree, and imay be insulting, but then again have you looked around? just baout every othe rpost is some one insulting something or some one else.

[Benrosan]

Regrettable thing to say, but every dollar we stop from getting into their pockets is a win at this point.

[Jake71887]

MerchantGOL wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...
no iam not trying, as hard as it may be for you to grasp, not every one that disagrees with you, and thinks you all are being childish is, bought off /dub/ or trolling

I've seen your posts in other threads, you are both insulting and borederline troll material, so he may be onto something.

Its not trolling to disagree, and imay be insulting, but then again have you looked around? just baout every othe rpost is some one insulting something or some one else.

Disagreeing is not trolling, no; but the way you disagree can be considered trolling, yes. As for your insulting, just because others are doing it, doesn't give you cause to. I have already reported you a couple times for it; but with the state of the forums it's unlikely much will come of it. But if they do act.... Zero tolerance. 

[Flashlegend]

I also quit SWTOR(actually unsubscribed this morning) after this ME3 ending fiasco. It doesn't matter if the developers that created TOR are actually an entirely different team in a different country. How can I in good conscience, support a company that I trusted and put faith in, only to have them reward that trust and faith with a slap and finger to the face, all while smiling like a blissfully ignorant fool.

Well, I'll tell you, i personally can not and will not.

[QuarianHIV]

Thanks for sharing that what I am experiencing is not an isolated incident.

Well..no guild means no group activities which means no endgame content which means end of my suscription as well.

FIX THE ENDINGS BIOWARE. I WANT TO GIVE YOU MONEY.

[ticklefist]

MerchantGOL wrote...

I Apologize on behalf of the Mass effect fan base, their young hopefully they will grow up

You're too stupid to effectively insult people.

[darkshadow136]

pavi132 wrote...

I doubt it's just because of the ME3 endings, and if it is, it isn't just the ten of them.

It's not just because of ME3. the ME3 thing is just the final straw with a lot of people. You can go back to DA2 people like myself were outraged at the lack of quality of that game in comparison to DAO, and from there Biowares misteps with their loyal fans has boiled over into what we have now.

if you want your voice heard louder got to my blog which I have a link too in my Sig , click on my ME3 review and click on the links to my polls.

1. would you Boycott Bioware if they don't fix the endings
2. do you believe Multiplayer should have no impact on the single player campaign
3. Facebook Campaign demand better endings for ME3

[kato42]

This turn of events is unexpected, and yet not surprising.

A large number of people are VERY irritated at Bioware because of this. SWtOR is a Bioware game, the fans of both games know this. They want to hurt Bioware in the pocketbook, and so they quit SWtOR to do that. No more monthly fees from them, enough people do it, and Bioware and EA will notice.

So if the OP lost a bunch of people from his guild alone, its not an unreasonable leap to think that many guilds will have lost people. Thus, a lot of people have quit.

Like it or not, agree with their motivation or not, if enough people do this, its a very effective method of bringing pressure on a business. It is in fact the only tool a consumer has, how they spend their money, a company that irritates its customers too much is going to feel it.

[Jake71887]

darkshadow136 wrote...

pavi132 wrote...

I doubt it's just because of the ME3 endings, and if it is, it isn't just the ten of them.

It's not just because of ME3. the ME3 thing is just the final straw with a lot of people. You can go back to DA2 people like myself were outraged at the lack of quality of that game in comparison to DAO, and from there Biowares misteps with their loyal fans has boiled over into what we have now.

if you want your voice heard louder got to my blog which I have a link too in my Sig , click on my ME3 review and click on the links to my polls.

1. would you Boycott Bioware if they don't fix the endings
2. do you believe Multiplayer should have no impact on the single player campaign
3. Facebook Campaign demand better endings for ME3

it wasn't just the quality of DA2, it was the way Bioware handled it for me... And I'm afraid the same will happen here.

[Nataladass]

canceling my two swtor accounts too

[MerchantGOL]

Jake71887 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...
no iam not trying, as hard as it may be for you to grasp, not every one that disagrees with you, and thinks you all are being childish is, bought off /dub/ or trolling

I've seen your posts in other threads, you are both insulting and borederline troll material, so he may be onto something.

Its not trolling to disagree, and imay be insulting, but then again have you looked around? just baout every othe rpost is some one insulting something or some one else.

Disagreeing is not trolling, no; but the way you disagree can be considered trolling, yes. As for your insulting, just because others are doing it, doesn't give you cause to. I have already reported you a couple times for it; but with the state of the forums it's unlikely much will come of it. But if they do act.... Zero tolerance. 

that would be a good stance to take.. if  i couldnt corectly guess that yoyu wont report any oen you actualy agree with no matter how insulting they are. so empty gesture really

Modifié par MerchantGOL, 14 mars 2012 - 07:23 .

[darkshadow136]

Jake71887 wrote...

darkshadow136 wrote...

pavi132 wrote...

I doubt it's just because of the ME3 endings, and if it is, it isn't just the ten of them.

It's not just because of ME3. the ME3 thing is just the final straw with a lot of people. You can go back to DA2 people like myself were outraged at the lack of quality of that game in comparison to DAO, and from there Biowares misteps with their loyal fans has boiled over into what we have now.

if you want your voice heard louder got to my blog which I have a link too in my Sig , click on my ME3 review and click on the links to my polls.

1. would you Boycott Bioware if they don't fix the endings
2. do you believe Multiplayer should have no impact on the single player campaign
3. Facebook Campaign demand better endings for ME3

it wasn't just the quality of DA2, it was the way Bioware handled it for me... And I'm afraid the same will happen here.

Yeah that is what their silence reminds me of here, is what happened during the DA2 thing. But this is far worse, and I don't think they realize the magnatude of the s*** Storm they created. To quote a phrase the better be prepared to Embrace the Taint.


if you want your voice heard louder got to my blog which I have a link too in my Sig , click on my ME3 review and click on the links to my polls.

1. would you Boycott Bioware if they don't fix the endings
2. do you believe Multiplayer should have no impact on the single player campaign
3. Facebook Campaign demand better endings for ME3

[ticklefist]

I did not play SWTOR beyond the first month. My gear was modded well enough outside of heroic FPs that everything that actually dropped in heroic FPs was a downgrade, the ability delay is (or was) very real and very annoying, and being a non-raider solo type player made grouping too time consuming. When 1.3 comes along with it's LFG tool I may take another look, but for now SWTOR is nothing more than a place I can go hear Jo Wyatt be awesome. I have DA2 for that now.

Anyways, yeah, what I was trying to get at before the tangent was that SWTOR's issues don't start and end with ME3's ending. I just think it was the final straw.

Modifié par ticklefist, 14 mars 2012 - 07:25 .

[Transgirlgamer]

Quitting SWTOR just because you're upset about ME3 makes no sense at all. The only connection is that they're by Bioware. The dev team on SWTOR are completely different to ME3, if I remember an interview I read corectly, they're in an entirely different country.

Rage quitting SWTOR because it's a bioware game will not get bioware to do anything about the ending to ME3. I still feel that Bioware have something up their sleeve for ME3. They wouldn't lose their chance to sell DLC deliberately. I'm not saying that they've done whatever they're doing the right way, just that they're doing something. I would suggest that they haven't said anything yet because to say that there is something coming before Japan gets their release would likely get them to hold off buying ME3 which in turn hurts their Day/Week 1 sales. I think they're walking a tightrope between completely upsetting American/European gamers by not saying anything and upsetting Japanese gamers by not saying anything.

Personally, I'm going to wait for a couple of weeks after the Japan release to let the majority of the gamers there have a chance to get the game and finish it before I make any decisions regarding future ME games or DLC. And ME3 will not affect my decision of when to get and join SWTOR.

[lajeokki]

I did cancel my subscription, might be I return eventually, might be I won't. My sister cancelled hers too..

EDIT: It makes perfect sense. Bioware and EA care for their business and if "updating" one game can bring them profit via another then I don't see why quitting SWTOR wouldn't make sense.

Modifié par lajeokki, 14 mars 2012 - 07:48 .

[Nataladass]

Transgirlgamer wrote...

Quitting SWTOR just because you're upset about ME3 makes no sense at all. The only connection is that they're by Bioware.

it makes sense. i was a loyal bioware customer even after DA2. I defended Bioware everytime someone insulted them but i can't do it anymore. For me, Mass Effect was the best computergame series, and before that, it was Baldurs Gate. They destroyed the best game ever with this endings, the game I invested hundreds of hours and hundreds of $$$ in. I can't even play ME1 or ME2 anymore.

Dragon Age 2 was rushed, lack of content, lack of spirit, reused textures, reused areas and so on.
Swtor wasn't rushed the way they did it with DA2 but patch 1.2 should have been the release version.
Mass Effect 3 isn't rushed the same way eather but playing ME1 took me ~50 hours, ME2 with all the DLCs over 80. I finished ME3 after doing every single sidequest possible in 30 hours.

it's not just Mass Effect, it's the way Bioware went in the last few years what makes me cry and they should know about this.

[Transgirlgamer]

Nataladass, then it's not just ME 3 you're upset about. All I said was that quitting one game that your enjoying because you didn't like another game by the same company didn't make sense.

As to Dragon Age 2, I quite enjoy it. Sure it's not as good as Dragon Age Origins, but it's a decent, pretty much stand alone game that just happens to be in The DA world. I think that it's perfectly possible for them to work in that world with other games that are different. I'm still looking forwards to DA3 as I want to see where they go. I can't think of anything in DA 2 offhand that I'd consider bad writing. Yes, it was annoying running through the same zones and caves and buildings all the time but that wasn't the writing so it didn't spoil the game much for me. Plus any game that lets me control Felicia Day can't be all bad .

As I've said somewhere. I haven't had a chance to finish ME 3 yet, due to various reasons, but from what I've read here in the forums, it's a good game, except for the endings, which I don't believe are the final ending as it stops Bioware and EA from selling post game DLC.

Of course, these are just my opinions based on what I've played and read and I know that everyone's opinions will be different.

[Denethar]

When trust is broken there are consequences....

[Landline]

I stopped playing ToR back when I realized that I was paying monthly for what was essentially a single player game for me.

But if I was still playing it, you can sure as hell bet that this would have made me stop.

[zarnk567]

Denethar wrote...

When trust is broken there are consequences....

[AlexXIV]

Benrosan wrote...

Regrettable thing to say, but every dollar we stop from getting into their pockets is a win at this point.

I don't know if it is a win, but more sort of a revenge/punishment. But I am ok with it because it is entirely what they deserve. The idea 'to be fair' to Bioware died when Bioware stopped to be fair to their fans. As someone said, it works both ways. I guess Bioware at some point forgot that the fans are what made Bioware big, and the fans can also end it if they are unified.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 14 mars 2012 - 09:56 .

[Almostfaceman]

I was thinking about buying SWTOR, buuutttt now that's on hold. My son owns it, and he's cancelling his subscription after playing ME3 if we don't hear something from Bioware soon. The only effective way to express customer dissatisfaction is via the wallet, unfortunately.

[Hexxys]

It's not really surprising. Customer loyalty works both ways.

[Cody211282]

Ya I quite as well. Why would I give someone money who is going to treat me like this?

[Jake71887]

Cody211282 wrote...

Ya I quite as well. Why would I give someone money who is going to treat me like this?

To be honest, the devs of SWTOR in light of it's problems, have treated fans far worse.