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[Mr. Gogeta34]

Persephone wrote...
So everything MUST be spoon fed to the audience these days?

Back in the day, endings that challenged the audience were appreciated. I.E. "Gone With The Wind". One THAT got its tacked on "closure" and "happy ending" crap, no one was happy with either.

Vital information is not "spoon feeding."

Which of your squadmates (or galactic races for that matter) survived the final battle?  Did Shepard survive his injuries in the best ending?

We don't have to know what happens in the centuries that followed... but even Gone With The Wind provided a solid springboard for speculation... not plot holes and plot gaps.  Big difference.

The game does not resolve these things... when Bioware said they would.  Your stance is faulty on that point alone.

Again refer to Mass Effect 2, did the ground team make it to the Normandy during the suicide mission.  You had absolutely no idea until it was confirmed by Joker.  Think that through...  They may be alive, they may be dead (in ME2, either was possible... as they are in ME3).  This was not answered... at all.  Guess what that means?  It means those questions weren't answered... those elements were not resolved.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 14 mars 2012 - 07:27 .

[Persephone]

ognick23 wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Assigning a percentage is perfectly valid when there is a poll of 45,000 people that says 2-3% like the endings.

And if you think 45k isn't enough to get a feel for how the fanbase feels, then you have no idea how polls work.

It's a bad percentage when you drop it in a biased area. Try elsewhere, vary your polled and introduce those statistics. BSN is almost the only place on the forums burning down because of the endings, everybody else thinks their insane.

Everybody else? I think you need to do a bit of research. There are several different sites that say otherwise, (GameFront's article on this is fantastic, so is the 3 or 4 on Forbes). Every poll I have seen, regardless of what site its at, has 85-90% of people unhappy with the endings. Every last one. Not a single one shows otherwise.

Amazon is at a 2 out of 5 rating. Metacritic is at a 3-4/10.

Both of which are stupidly low, of course- ME3 is a 7-8ish rated game, but the endings have pissed off so many people that they're giving it 2-3's. That should tell you Bioware screwed up.

but think about it if 100,000 people say they dont like the ending and the game sold 2.5 million copies then what percentage is that? im sure u could say that those other people just migth not have voted but we dont know so outside of BSN percentages dont really matter. And who cares about Metacritic and Amazon when i can give u about 10 other bigger names sites that give it 10/10

Never mind that all it takes to review bomb a game are a few dozen trolls determined enough to do it. You need not even have bought the game to review it on Amazon or MC.

[Rafe34]

ognick23 wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

ognick23 wrote...
ok well u answered your own question bro, on BSN its 2% out of 45,000 but worldwide its your 45,000 out of a million plus. And if u wanna say "well how many of those people didnt vote" i could say well how many of outside of ur 45,000 didnt vote, are some of those people who gave it 0 out of 10, or just felt like they wanted to be part of the majority? the same thing could be used both ways if ur talking outside of BSN

There is no more sense in talking with you. You have no grasp of the way polls work, and obviously no intention of actually having a discussion on the topic.

I suggest you do a bit of research to educate yourself before continuing to make yourself look like a fool on the issue.

lmao you dont have to talk to me anymore bro im happy with my game ur the one who's not getting a "better ending" good luck with that

I'm glad you're happy with your game.

I'm pissed that you somehow enjoy the fact that I want an ending that actually makes sense given the ME universe and you think I won't get it. Why would that make you happy? 

You can keep your ending, I honestly don't care. If you liked it, fine. It's nonsensical, but if you liked it, good for you. All I'm asking for is the OPTION to have an ending that actually works in the ME universe and keeps my Shepard IC.

[saracen16]

Jellyfish Opera wrote...

 I don't come the forums that often, but I know enough about what's going about how people are angry over the ending, so on and so forth.

But I think the ending was amazing (and perfect, at least in terms to me). It answered all my questions and I felt relieved and happy to see how everything came together. I'm happy Bioware left a lot open at the end because I can make up my own stories about what happens here on out (or until Bioware releases DLC if it takes place after the events of the final conflict).

Either way, I cried TWICE during the story and had TWO jaw dropping moments. Bioware, you outdid yourself again and I'm happy that this was something I truly enjoyed and loved.

I've been here since Mass Effect 1 first came out and I'm honored to know I was here at the end.

Now I know how all those people who read the Harry Potter books from start to finish feel and why they cried when they finished it. 

Mass Effect is the story I will remember for the rest of my life. Thank you Bioware.

Amen to that, brother or sister. Amen to that.

[Persephone]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Persephone wrote...
So everything MUST be spoon fed to the audience these days?

Back in the day, endings that challenged the audience were appreciated. I.E. "Gone With The Wind". One THAT got its tacked on "closure" and "happy ending" crap, no one was happy with either.

Vital information is not "spoon feeding."

Which of your squadmates (or galactic races for that matter) survived the final battle?  Did Shepard survive his injuries in the best ending?

We don't have to know what happens in the centuries that followed... but even Gone With The Wind provided a solid springboard for speculation... not plot holes and plot gaps.  Big difference.

The game does not resolve these things... when Bioware said they would.  Your stance is faulty on that point alone.

Use your imagination. Or wait for more content.

I have yet to see plot holes and gaps in the endings. And GWTW provided no more than ME3 did.

[Rafe34]

Persephone wrote...

ognick23 wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Assigning a percentage is perfectly valid when there is a poll of 45,000 people that says 2-3% like the endings.

And if you think 45k isn't enough to get a feel for how the fanbase feels, then you have no idea how polls work.

It's a bad percentage when you drop it in a biased area. Try elsewhere, vary your polled and introduce those statistics. BSN is almost the only place on the forums burning down because of the endings, everybody else thinks their insane.

Everybody else? I think you need to do a bit of research. There are several different sites that say otherwise, (GameFront's article on this is fantastic, so is the 3 or 4 on Forbes). Every poll I have seen, regardless of what site its at, has 85-90% of people unhappy with the endings. Every last one. Not a single one shows otherwise.

Amazon is at a 2 out of 5 rating. Metacritic is at a 3-4/10.

Both of which are stupidly low, of course- ME3 is a 7-8ish rated game, but the endings have pissed off so many people that they're giving it 2-3's. That should tell you Bioware screwed up.

but think about it if 100,000 people say they dont like the ending and the game sold 2.5 million copies then what percentage is that? im sure u could say that those other people just migth not have voted but we dont know so outside of BSN percentages dont really matter. And who cares about Metacritic and Amazon when i can give u about 10 other bigger names sites that give it 10/10

Never mind that all it takes to review bomb a game are a few dozen trolls determined enough to do it. You need not even have bought the game to review it on Amazon or MC.

Again, any poll that says otherwise, please.

Any one. 

I'm just saying, every single piece of information we have points to the vast majority of people being dissatisfied with the ending. Perhaps that's not the case, but there is no evidence to the contrary. Until there is... well. 

[Rafe34]

Persephone wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Persephone wrote...
So everything MUST be spoon fed to the audience these days?

Back in the day, endings that challenged the audience were appreciated. I.E. "Gone With The Wind". One THAT got its tacked on "closure" and "happy ending" crap, no one was happy with either.

Vital information is not "spoon feeding."

Which of your squadmates (or galactic races for that matter) survived the final battle?  Did Shepard survive his injuries in the best ending?

We don't have to know what happens in the centuries that followed... but even Gone With The Wind provided a solid springboard for speculation... not plot holes and plot gaps.  Big difference.

The game does not resolve these things... when Bioware said they would.  Your stance is faulty on that point alone.

Use your imagination. Or wait for more content.

I have yet to see plot holes and gaps in the endings. And GWTW provided no more than ME3 did.

You've yet to see plot holes? Are you serious here? 

[Persephone]

Rafe34 wrote...

ognick23 wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

ognick23 wrote...
ok well u answered your own question bro, on BSN its 2% out of 45,000 but worldwide its your 45,000 out of a million plus. And if u wanna say "well how many of those people didnt vote" i could say well how many of outside of ur 45,000 didnt vote, are some of those people who gave it 0 out of 10, or just felt like they wanted to be part of the majority? the same thing could be used both ways if ur talking outside of BSN

There is no more sense in talking with you. You have no grasp of the way polls work, and obviously no intention of actually having a discussion on the topic.

I suggest you do a bit of research to educate yourself before continuing to make yourself look like a fool on the issue.

lmao you dont have to talk to me anymore bro im happy with my game ur the one who's not getting a "better ending" good luck with that

I'm glad you're happy with your game.

I'm pissed that you somehow enjoy the fact that I want an ending that actually makes sense given the ME universe and you think I won't get it. Why would that make you happy? 

You can keep your ending, I honestly don't care. If you liked it, fine. It's nonsensical, but if you liked it, good for you. All I'm asking for is the OPTION to have an ending that actually works in the ME universe and keeps my Shepard IC.

Who determines what makes sense in this universe? You or those who created it?

Why is YOUR Shep more important than mine or ognick's?

[Dragoonlordz]

Rafe34 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Waiting for that poll that says the opposite...

Basically, the thing is, we have put forward evidence that says the vast majority of people say that the endings are not satisfactory.

You have no evidence to the contrary, no poll that says people actually like the endings.

So... you kinda need to come up with some in order for this to be a serious argument.

No you have not. You have not proven vast majority at all of the people who bought ME3 or fans of Bioware hate it in the slightest. Do not call people morons by the way for pointing out the fallacy in your grand assumptions based on small amounts of data. People who like content do not generally feel engraged or the need to come on here and moan about the things they do not like, they are the majority and they speak louder with their wallets than the sum total of everyone (fan) on this site. They number in the millions and those of us on this site number in the thousands, as is the case with your poll where merely shows thousands and not the million who do not feel the need to come on here and complain. In actuallity the fact that there is not a few million people on here whining shows that they did not hate it so much they felt the need to take your stance.

Oh well, I guess all the presidential polls that use only 1,000-2,000 people to get an idea of how the country is feeling are all completely wrong.

You should present your logical, well-thought out argument to Gallup so that they know they need to get everyone's opinion in order to correctly gauge the mood of the public. [/sarcasm]

Your argument is not possible to invalidate. You say, "Oh well, people who love the endings won't come on here and say anything." So its not possible to prove you wrong.

Every single poll, on every site that I have seen one posted, ( about a dozen so far), has 85-90% of people not liking the game. 45,000 people out of 2-3million is a significant sample size. The people on these forums didn't come on here *just* to whine about the ME3 endings, a lot of us are on here for discussing other games. We're hardcore fans- not just negative fans. I came on here and praised BW for DAO, because it was legitimately awesome game. 

We have the evidence that suggests, not proves, but suggests, that most people are unhappy with the endings by taking polls over several different sites, including this one.

Your counter-argument is not any evidence but simply a statement "Well, happy people won't come on and say anything about the endings." It is a well-known fact that people who are negative are more likely to review a product, since they've gotten heated up about it, I'm not disputing that. What I am saying is that when 9/10 people that do review it are negative, you have a problem that can't be explained away simply by using that argument. The real numbers are probably more like 7/10- but that is still a major problem. Comprende?

That is why most polls get wrong results or different ones to what expected when the reailty and actual numbers are tallied. The flaw in polls is making vast assumptions. You cannot claim majority based on assumption. The only thing you actually have as far as data goes shows that a few thousand people disliked the endings (end of story), that is all you have but on the otherside Bioware made millions of sales. Your using whatever number you can come up with to somehow corner Bioware when in reality they have nothing to be cornered by. They made millions of sale, a few thousand appear to be complaining.


As for your comment above that you feel pissed off that other people enjoyed what you did not and expressed as such, also bare in mind they did not come into your thread throwing disdain and hyperbole at you for your dislikes. You on the other hand did come into his and attacked him and his enjoyment of what you did not. Out of the two you appear more childish in your actions.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 mars 2012 - 07:30 .

[Aedan333]

If you go by the poll about 1 in 32 people enjoyed the ending. Guess whos part of the minority! Thats right you are OP, oh yes you are!

[Persephone]

Rafe34 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Persephone wrote...
So everything MUST be spoon fed to the audience these days?

Back in the day, endings that challenged the audience were appreciated. I.E. "Gone With The Wind". One THAT got its tacked on "closure" and "happy ending" crap, no one was happy with either.

Vital information is not "spoon feeding."

Which of your squadmates (or galactic races for that matter) survived the final battle?  Did Shepard survive his injuries in the best ending?

We don't have to know what happens in the centuries that followed... but even Gone With The Wind provided a solid springboard for speculation... not plot holes and plot gaps.  Big difference.

The game does not resolve these things... when Bioware said they would.  Your stance is faulty on that point alone.

Use your imagination. Or wait for more content.

I have yet to see plot holes and gaps in the endings. And GWTW provided no more than ME3 did.

You've yet to see plot holes? Are you serious here? 

You've yet to see past your nose? Are you serious here? <_<

All snarking aside, presumptions like this are bloody annoying.

[Persephone]

Aedan333 wrote...

If you go by the poll about 1 in 32 people enjoyed the ending. Guess whos part of the minority! Thats right you are OP, oh yes you are!

Better company than melodramatic, entitled fanbrats, I gotta say.:innocent:

[Harbinger of your Destiny]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Waiting for that poll that says the opposite...

Basically, the thing is, we have put forward evidence that says the vast majority of people say that the endings are not satisfactory.

You have no evidence to the contrary, no poll that says people actually like the endings.

So... you kinda need to come up with some in order for this to be a serious argument.

No you have not. You have not proven vast majority at all of the people who bought ME3 or fans of Bioware hate it in the slightest. Do not call people morons by the way for pointing out the fallacy in your grand assumptions based on small amounts of data. People who like content do not generally feel engraged or the need to come on here and moan about the things they do not like, they are the majority and they speak louder with their wallets than the sum total of everyone (fan) on this site. They number in the millions and those of us on this site number in the thousands, as is the case with your poll where merely shows thousands and not the million who do not feel the need to come on here and complain. In actuallity the fact that there is not a few million people on here whining shows that they did not hate it so much they felt the need to take your stance.

Oh well, I guess all the presidential polls that use only 1,000-2,000 people to get an idea of how the country is feeling are all completely wrong.

You should present your logical, well-thought out argument to Gallup so that they know they need to get everyone's opinion in order to correctly gauge the mood of the public. [/sarcasm]

Your argument is not possible to invalidate. You say, "Oh well, people who love the endings won't come on here and say anything." So its not possible to prove you wrong.

Every single poll, on every site that I have seen one posted, ( about a dozen so far), has 85-90% of people not liking the game. 45,000 people out of 2-3million is a significant sample size. The people on these forums didn't come on here *just* to whine about the ME3 endings, a lot of us are on here for discussing other games. We're hardcore fans- not just negative fans. I came on here and praised BW for DAO, because it was legitimately awesome game. 

We have the evidence that suggests, not proves, but suggests, that most people are unhappy with the endings by taking polls over several different sites, including this one.

Your counter-argument is not any evidence but simply a statement "Well, happy people won't come on and say anything about the endings." It is a well-known fact that people who are negative are more likely to review a product, since they've gotten heated up about it, I'm not disputing that. What I am saying is that when 9/10 people that do review it are negative, you have a problem that can't be explained away simply by using that argument. The real numbers are probably more like 7/10- but that is still a major problem. Comprende?

That is why most polls get wrong results or different ones to what expected when the reailty and actual numbers are tallied. The flaw in polls is making vast assumptions. You cannot claim majority based on assumption. The only thing you actually have as far as data goes shows that a few thousand people disliked the endings (end of story), that is all you have but on the otherside Bioware made millions of sales. Your using whatever number you can come up with to somehow corner Bioware when in reality they have nothing to be cornered by. They made millions of sale, a few thousand appear to be complaining.


As for your comment above that you feel pissed off that other people enjoyed what you did not and expressed as such, also bare in mind they did not come into your thread throwing disdain and hyperbole at you for your dislikes. You on the other hand did come into his and attacked him.

If that is true why is it that there is only a small amount of people that seem to like the ending?

I measn out of the almost 45000 people asked only 3 percent actually said they liked it,

Modifié par Harbinger of your Destiny, 14 mars 2012 - 07:31 .

[kinna]

Rafe34 wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Assigning a percentage is perfectly valid when there is a poll of 45,000 people that says 2-3% like the endings.

And if you think 45k isn't enough to get a feel for how the fanbase feels, then you have no idea how polls work.

It's a bad percentage when you drop it in a biased area. Try elsewhere, vary your polled and introduce those statistics. BSN is almost the only place on the forums burning down because of the endings, everybody else thinks their insane.

Everybody else? I think you need to do a bit of research. There are several different sites that say otherwise, (GameFront's article on this is fantastic, so is the 3 or 4 on Forbes). Every poll I have seen, regardless of what site its at, has 85-90% of people unhappy with the endings. Every last one. Not a single one shows otherwise.

Amazon is at a 2 out of 5 rating. Metacritic is at a 3-4/10.

Both of which are stupidly low, of course- ME3 is a 7-8ish rated game, but the endings have pissed off so many people that they're giving it 2-3's. That should tell you Bioware screwed up.

No, that tells us that people are acting stupid because of rage. There is no intelligent reason to give a great game low scores just because the ending didn't match their idea of how it should be.
I am at a point where I can't decide about the ending. In some ways I liked it, and in some ways I didn't.

Modifié par kinna, 14 mars 2012 - 07:31 .

[Sir Fluffykins]

Mako Zalos wrote...

I agree with you to some degree OP. Everything, and IMHO everything< was perfect up until the space god/boy thing came into the story, after that it was all plotholes. Though I don't think the game deserves anything below a 4 star rating I mean the game was perfect up until that point, but hey just my opinion.

I agree with this.

I wish the guys who liked the ending would say why they liked it and not just say stuff like "you need to fill in the blanks". I don't write fan-fiction. I wanted to see how my choices affected the ending, I can't be happy with a blank and get told "you put whatever you think and that's the ending". I wanted closure and THEN I wanted to replay and make different choices and get a DIFFERENT ending based on those choices, but there's no point now.

[Rafe34]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Waiting for that poll that says the opposite...

Basically, the thing is, we have put forward evidence that says the vast majority of people say that the endings are not satisfactory.

You have no evidence to the contrary, no poll that says people actually like the endings.

So... you kinda need to come up with some in order for this to be a serious argument.

No you have not. You have not proven vast majority at all of the people who bought ME3 or fans of Bioware hate it in the slightest. Do not call people morons by the way for pointing out the fallacy in your grand assumptions based on small amounts of data. People who like content do not generally feel engraged or the need to come on here and moan about the things they do not like, they are the majority and they speak louder with their wallets than the sum total of everyone (fan) on this site. They number in the millions and those of us on this site number in the thousands, as is the case with your poll where merely shows thousands and not the million who do not feel the need to come on here and complain. In actuallity the fact that there is not a few million people on here whining shows that they did not hate it so much they felt the need to take your stance.

Oh well, I guess all the presidential polls that use only 1,000-2,000 people to get an idea of how the country is feeling are all completely wrong.

You should present your logical, well-thought out argument to Gallup so that they know they need to get everyone's opinion in order to correctly gauge the mood of the public. [/sarcasm]

Your argument is not possible to invalidate. You say, "Oh well, people who love the endings won't come on here and say anything." So its not possible to prove you wrong.

Every single poll, on every site that I have seen one posted, ( about a dozen so far), has 85-90% of people not liking the game. 45,000 people out of 2-3million is a significant sample size. The people on these forums didn't come on here *just* to whine about the ME3 endings, a lot of us are on here for discussing other games. We're hardcore fans- not just negative fans. I came on here and praised BW for DAO, because it was legitimately awesome game. 

We have the evidence that suggests, not proves, but suggests, that most people are unhappy with the endings by taking polls over several different sites, including this one.

Your counter-argument is not any evidence but simply a statement "Well, happy people won't come on and say anything about the endings." It is a well-known fact that people who are negative are more likely to review a product, since they've gotten heated up about it, I'm not disputing that. What I am saying is that when 9/10 people that do review it are negative, you have a problem that can't be explained away simply by using that argument. The real numbers are probably more like 7/10- but that is still a major problem. Comprende?

That is why most polls get wrong results or different ones to what expected when the reailty and actual numbers are tallied. The flaw in polls is making vast assumptions. You cannot claim majority based on assumption. The only thing you actually have as far as data goes shows that a few thousand people disliked the endings (end of story), that is all you have but on the otherside Bioware made millions of sales. Your using whatever number you can come up with to somehow corner Bioware when in reality they have nothing to be cornered by. They made millions of sale, a few thousand appear to be complaining.

They made millions in sales because we trusted Bioware after the great games prior in the series. 

Your logic is seriously flawed- buying a game does not mean you like it. I bought ME3 because I enjoyed ME1 and ME2 immensely. 

And most polls get wrong results... really. Most polls are off by 4-5% max, (it says so right in the poll, 4-5% margin of error). Right now, the poll is at 90-10. This is not something anywhere CLOSE to the margin of error.

[Persephone]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

If that is true why is it that there is only a small amount of people that seem to like the ending?

Because the Internet isn't anything to base an educated opinion on. That's why.

Modifié par Persephone, 14 mars 2012 - 07:32 .

[ognick23]

Rafe34 wrote...

ognick23 wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Waiting for that poll that says the opposite...

Basically, the thing is, we have put forward evidence that says the vast majority of people say that the endings are not satisfactory.

You have no evidence to the contrary, no poll that says people actually like the endings.

So... you kinda need to come up with some in order for this to be a serious argument.

No you have not. You have not proven vast majority at all of the people who bought ME3 or fans of Bioware hate it in the slightest. Do not call people morons by the way for pointing out the fallacy in your grand assumptions based on small amounts of data. People who like content do not generally feel engraged or the need to come on here and moan about the things they do not like, they are the majority and they speak louder with their wallets than the sum total of everyone (fan) on this site. They number in the millions and those of us on this site number in the thousands, as is the case with your poll where merely shows thousands and not the million who do not feel the need to come on here and complain. In actuallity the fact that there is not a few million people on here whining shows that they did not hate it so much they felt the need to take your stance.

Oh well, I guess all the presidential polls that use only 1,000-2,000 people to get an idea of how the country is feeling are all completely wrong.

You should present your logical, well-thought out argument to Gallup so that they know they need to get everyone's opinion in order to correctly gauge the mood of the public. [/sarcasm]

Your argument is not possible to invalidate. You say, "Oh well, people who love the endings won't come on here and say anything." So its not possible to prove you wrong.

Every single poll, on every site that I have seen one posted, ( about a dozen so far), has 85-90% of people not liking the game. 45,000 people out of 2-3million is a significant sample size. The people on these forums didn't come on here *just* to whine about the ME3 endings, a lot of us are on here for discussing other games. We're hardcore fans- not just negative fans. I came on here and praised BW for DAO, because it was legitimately awesome game. 

We have the evidence that suggests, not proves, but suggests, that most people are unhappy with the endings by taking polls over several different sites, including this one.

Your counter-argument is not any evidence but simply a statement "Well, happy people won't come on and say anything about the endings." It is a well-known fact that people who are negative are more likely to review a product, since they've gotten heated up about it, I'm not disputing that. What I am saying is that when 9/10 people that do review it are negative, you have a problem that can't be explained away simply by using that argument. The real numbers are probably more like 7/10- but that is still a major problem. Comprende?

thats exactly how Bush got voted in twice

You're talking about polls that showed Kerry was ahead by like 51-49 and it turned out it was 51-49 the other way. Not a poll that showed Kerry was ahead 90-10 and it turned out to be 51-49 the other way.

look dude the purpose of a poll is to see what the majority of the people are in favor of right? so if u wanna argue about the worlds view on ME3 then ur polls on a couple game sites dont work because there are too many other people who didnt vote to get an accurate view. Now if ur calling us who dont care about changing the endings the minority on BSn or a few game forums then ur completely correct

[dfstone]

It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, if he's enjoying the game let him enjoy it. Its not up to you guys to tell the OP how to feel.

[Tirigon]

Persephone wrote...

So everything MUST be spoon fed to the audience these days?

Back in the day, endings that challenged the audience were appreciated. I.E. "Gone With The Wind". Ocne THAT got its tacked on "closure" and "happy ending" crap, no one was happy with either.

I think that is the difference between a book or movie and a game: In the former, you watch. If the author wants an open end, fine.

In the latter, WE DIRECT SHEPHARD. We feel like him, fell AS him. We want to get our happy ending because WE WORKED FOR IT.

In a movie, we watch. If an open end makes sense, ok.

But in Mass Effect, we WORKED for our good ending. I am surely not the only one who wasted hours on scanning for minerals and doing sidequests for Paragon / Renegade points so you could solve teammate conflicts in ME2. I am not the only one who wasted time with this sh!tty Planet scanning and Reaper escaping in ME3. We invested that time because we hoped that, in the end, it would change a "everyone dies" ending into a "everyone is happy, Liara bears my children, with Garrus being their Godfather, Joker finally finds love in EDI, there is peace and harmony like in a freaking hippie musical and we watch ponies and rainbows" ending.
And then, right at the end there is some stupid, vaguely humanoid plot twist with no explanations (you know what I mean) telling us a ridiculous story about where the Reapers come from and ending with "oh by the way your effort was in vain, everyone dies, buy next DLC!!"

[xsdob]

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

i think the OP didnt quite understood the ending...

And you misunderstand the purpose of games and other forms or entertainment.

purpose of the game is to make me satisfied, since i pay money for it. And it failed miserably

I was made for everyone not just you, others like myself and the OP did enjoy it and did find it satifying and we paid for it too.

Wrong, if the majority of the people arent satisfied by it something is wrong and the whole thing became more closer to being a scam

The majority of people, or just the majority of forum users, cause most people don't know about the bioware social network forums.

[Mx_CN3]

OP, I think I speak for most, if not all of us that greatly disliked the endings, when I say that I'm very happy that you liked them, and I truly wish that I felt the same.

[Rafe34]

xsdob wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

i think the OP didnt quite understood the ending...

And you misunderstand the purpose of games and other forms or entertainment.

purpose of the game is to make me satisfied, since i pay money for it. And it failed miserably

I was made for everyone not just you, others like myself and the OP did enjoy it and did find it satifying and we paid for it too.

Wrong, if the majority of the people arent satisfied by it something is wrong and the whole thing became more closer to being a scam

The majority of people, or just the majority of forum users, cause most people don't know about the bioware social network forums.

Can you point me to any poll, anywhere on the net, that says the majority of people liked the ME3 endings? Serious question.

[Dragoonlordz]

Harbinger of your Destiny wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

That is why most polls get wrong results or different ones to what expected when the reailty and actual numbers are tallied. The flaw in polls is making vast assumptions. You cannot claim majority based on assumption. The only thing you actually have as far as data goes shows that a few thousand people disliked the endings (end of story), that is all you have but on the otherside Bioware made millions of sales. Your using whatever number you can come up with to somehow corner Bioware when in reality they have nothing to be cornered by. They made millions of sale, a few thousand appear to be complaining.


As for your comment above that you feel pissed off that other people enjoyed what you did not and expressed as such, also bare in mind they did not come into your thread throwing disdain and hyperbole at you for your dislikes. You on the other hand did come into his and attacked him.

If that is true why is it that there is only a small amount of people that seem to like the ending?

BSN is filled with the most arrogant, childish, selfish and self entitled people who buy Biowares games which is why they have had to update the rules and remind people of such recently. Also note happy people don't tend to in general moan and complain and most customers don't feel the need to register on a site or bicker with others over a game.

[ApplesauceBandit]

Must be nice to play Me3 while intoxicated or completely stoned.