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[Mr. Gogeta34]

Persephone wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Persephone wrote...
Try barging into a business and harass the people there about their products. See how far it'll get you. No, you are NOT entitled to say "whatever you want".

Yes, vote with your wallet until you get what you like and stop cluttering up the forum with gazillions of threads on the endings. I WOULD like to discuss the game itself at some point.

This is the place you talk, discuss, and rant... that's what these boards are made for.  You've got the completely wrong idea out the gate.  No one's barging into a business and harassing people about their products... you say your opinion, others say theirs...

Know what you're getting into before you start a public discussion topic... especailly if the topic already has a majority leaning and you want to proclaim the opposite as true.

Yes, customers are entitled to say whatever they want.  When they pay for a good, they can say it's awesome or it sucks.  If they're angry/happy, they can keep saying it.  They have that right.

No one's stopping you from discussing the game... start a topic right now...

Done yelling?

Missed the threads about bombarding/harassing Bioware, did you? About making PAX hell for them?

I don't give a damn about the "majority" and their entitled nonsense.

No, they cannot say "whatever" they want. They can review the game positively or negatively. Buy or refuse to buy more. Anything beyond that is ridiculous.

All caps = yelling.  Bold = emphasis (if you don't read anything else, read that).  Just so you know.

Again, these forums are for positive and negative feedback.  Feedback is severely negative if they make a severely negative error with their product.  That's something you'll have to get used to.

See how many of those same people would tell you they enjoyed (and admit) that the rest of the game was a phenominal masterpiece game.

No company is above scrutiny or even heavy backlash.  You'll just have to come to grips with the fact that Bioware deserves what they're getting this time... just like they deserve the money those same customers spent on the game.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 14 mars 2012 - 08:16 .

[Eradyn]

-Zorph- wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

So entitled they've raised money for sick children.

Those bastards.

The thing is, they dont' care about the kids, they just want their new ending (which wont happen btw)

They care about as much as thirty-seven thousand dollars.

This. People don't just throw $37,000 at wanting a new ending. They throw $37,000 at wanting a new ending by raising awareness, through donating to a charity. As much as people want a new ending, I can guarantee people wouldn't give some random person $37,000 worth if he said "donate to me for new ending" or something. Cause+Cause=$37k donations in 24 hours.

Yep.  It's called a charity drive, people.  This is nothing new and it's actually a good thing.  Raising awareness, drumming up support, doing some good, drawing attention to a worthy cause(s)...

Celebrities do it, corporations do it, regular individuals (with their own motivations) do it.

On topic: If the OP is genuinely satisfied with the endings, good for them! Seriously, no sarcasm.  If some people can find peace and closure with the endings as they are, then I certainly see nothing wrong with that.  People are individuals and it follows logically that some people will like the endings.  In this particular case, the OP falls into a minority, but that is by no means a bad thing (because, hey, they like it ).  I only continue to hope that the rest of us can find closure as well, at some point.  ME is an amazing trilogy and deserves a conclusion worthy of it.

Modifié par Eradyn, 14 mars 2012 - 08:17 .

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

-Zorph- wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

So entitled they've raised money for sick children.

Those bastards.

The thing is, they dont' care about the kids, they just want their new ending (which wont happen btw)

They care about as much as thirty-seven thousand dollars.

This. People don't just throw $37,000 at wanting a new ending. They throw $37,000 at wanting a new ending by raising awareness, through donating to a charity. As much as people want a new ending, I can guarantee people wouldn't give some random person $37,000 worth if he said "donate to me for new ending" or something. Cause+Cause=$37k donations in 24 hours.

And even when they don't get what they want they're not going to turn around and go, 'Hell, I wish I hadn't given that money  to sick children."

[Persephone]

Tirigon wrote...

Persephone wrote...


And the BEST way to make sure you get more Endings is to sabotage Sales by review bombing....

That's how Gabriel Knight III, which ended on a CLIFFHANGER (THAT is and ENDING to be DEPRESSED about!), NEVER got is finale. The fans killed the franchise they wanted to save.

That is sad. But what can you do instead?

Trying to trick people into buying so more people pay?

That would only make Bio and EA go "look we raised sales, obviously our direction was great lets do it again!"

Rather than 10/10 give it an 8 and explain why. Not zeros. SUPPORT the game but ALSO let Bioware know what you want without melodrama, anger, rudeness, threats and the like.

Thing is this: This is a natural ending point. If the Sales fail, there won't just be no "Endings DLC" for those who can't play ME3 without it but ALSO no more ME ever. If EA is calling the shots, that is how they operate. You are playing into their hands....They might as well force ME shut and get Bioware to do a new franchise that is ENTIRELY controlled by them. That's my fear, anyway.

[Tirigon]

Persephone wrote...
Rather than 10/10 give it an 8 and explain why. Not zeros. SUPPORT the game but ALSO let Bioware know what you want without melodrama, anger, rudeness, threats and the like.

Thing is this: This is a natural ending point. If the Sales fail, there won't just be no "Endings DLC" for those who can't play ME3 without it but ALSO no more ME ever. If EA is calling the shots, that is how they operate. You are playing into their hands....They might as well force ME shut and get Bioware to do a new franchise that is ENTIRELY controlled by them. That's my fear, anyway.

That is true, hence why in some threads I say that ME3 wold have been one of the best games ever if not for the ending. But obviously, you need to stress the bad points more than the good ones.
Because the good parts are actually what you expect.
ESPECIALLY from BioWare. Delivering a great game is not something special, it is what you pretty much expect.

[Costin_Razvan]

I think ME3 deserve a 10/10, and I see the bad points about the Catalyst and TIM, but even with these it's still a damned good game.

Not perfect, and a 10/10 is sure as hell not perfect just like a 10 grade in school doesn't mean perfection.

[Persephone]

Tirigon wrote...

Persephone wrote...
Rather than 10/10 give it an 8 and explain why. Not zeros. SUPPORT the game but ALSO let Bioware know what you want without melodrama, anger, rudeness, threats and the like.

Thing is this: This is a natural ending point. If the Sales fail, there won't just be no "Endings DLC" for those who can't play ME3 without it but ALSO no more ME ever. If EA is calling the shots, that is how they operate. You are playing into their hands....They might as well force ME shut and get Bioware to do a new franchise that is ENTIRELY controlled by them. That's my fear, anyway.

That is true, hence why in some threads I say that ME3 wold have been one of the best games ever if not for the ending.

To me, it still is. If the endings are worked on via expansion or DLC, it'll be the best game I ever played. And I think Bioware knows this. Which is why I'm waiting for official input.

[Stommps]

Yes the ending was mediocre at best but the other 59 hours of extremely fun game play vastly out weighted that. I don't want to see a different ending/version.

[Persephone]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I think ME3 deserve a 10/10, and I see the bad points about the Catalyst and TIM, but even with these it's still a damned good game.

Not perfect, and a 10/10 is sure as hell not perfect just like a 10 grade in school doesn't mean perfection.

I so agree with this.

And here is my confession: ME3 made me see where DAII failed. (Still love some of its characters and stuff. But oh God, it's a hack job compared to ME3)

[ognick23]

Persephone wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

Persephone wrote...


And the BEST way to make sure you get more Endings is to sabotage Sales by review bombing....

That's how Gabriel Knight III, which ended on a CLIFFHANGER (THAT is and ENDING to be DEPRESSED about!), NEVER got is finale. The fans killed the franchise they wanted to save.

That is sad. But what can you do instead?

Trying to trick people into buying so more people pay?

That would only make Bio and EA go "look we raised sales, obviously our direction was great lets do it again!"

Rather than 10/10 give it an 8 and explain why. Not zeros. SUPPORT the game but ALSO let Bioware know what you want without melodrama, anger, rudeness, threats and the like.

Thing is this: This is a natural ending point. If the Sales fail, there won't just be no "Endings DLC" for those who can't play ME3 without it but ALSO no more ME ever. If EA is calling the shots, that is how they operate. You are playing into their hands....They might as well force ME shut and get Bioware to do a new franchise that is ENTIRELY controlled by them. That's my fear, anyway.

exactly, they dont seem to understand that a big reason for them not getting that ending that they want is those among them that are immature and attack Bioware employees on twitter, facebook, etc. those are the guys they need to blame, hell you see alot of immature ones on here alone and no im not talking about all of you so please dont say im grouping you all who dont like the end

Modifié par ognick23, 14 mars 2012 - 08:33 .

[Tirigon]

Persephone wrote...
To me, it still is. If the endings are worked on via expansion or DLC, it'll be the best game I ever played. And I think Bioware knows this. Which is why I'm waiting for official input.

That might be a valid point.

Sadly I detest the entire idea of DLC and consider it an abomination, and even if I could ignore this dislike, which at least for now I cant, it wouldnt change the feeling of betrayal. They promised ME3 to be the epic ending of the Mass Effect saga.

NOT "ME3 + some DLC we wil release a few weeks or months later".

[Elite Midget]

It anwsered all your questions?

Well, than. I guess you didn't have many in the first place... Or bothered to ask any either.

[Persephone]

Tirigon wrote...

Persephone wrote...
To me, it still is. If the endings are worked on via expansion or DLC, it'll be the best game I ever played. And I think Bioware knows this. Which is why I'm waiting for official input.

That might be a valid point.

Sadly I detest the entire idea of DLC and consider it an abomination, and even if I could ignore this dislike, which at least for now I cant, it wouldnt change the feeling of betrayal. They promised ME3 to be the epic ending of the Mass Effect saga.

NOT "ME3 + some DLC we wil release a few weeks or months later".

I understand that. (It may not be my stance but I understand that) 

[Tirigon]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I think ME3 deserve a 10/10, and I see the bad points about the Catalyst and TIM, but even with these it's still a damned good game.

Not perfect, and a 10/10 is sure as hell not perfect just like a 10 grade in school doesn't mean perfection.

I dont know how school works in your country (I dont even know your country actually:P) but as for 10/10 not meaning perfection... well that is wrong.

10/10 means that everything that COULD possibly be there IS there, and perfectly executed, it means that no matter how hard you try, an improvement is not possible.

That is not the case even for the game overall (although I admit a 9,5 or maybe even more is probably deserved), and it sure as hell isnt with the ending.
Tbh, the mere fact you said "I see the bad points..." means 10/10 is undeserved because 10/10 pretty much means there ARE no bad points, no matter how hard you look,

[Stommps]

Persephone wrote...


And the BEST way to make sure you get more Endings is to sabotage Sales by review bombing....

That's how Gabriel Knight III, which ended on a CLIFFHANGER (THAT is and ENDING to be DEPRESSED about!), NEVER got is finale. The fans killed the franchise they wanted to save.

I actually worked on GK3 as a lead tech artist and the series was dead on arrival after it release.  Sierra Online at that point was bleeding money and they financed GK3 like it was going to be the next Diablo which it was never going to be.  GK3 was killed by bad management, planning and financing.

[deadshame]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

So you were fine with the Reapers motivation? Yo dawg, to save you from being destroyed by synthetics we're going to use synthetics to destroy you every 50,000 years.

Or the plot inconsistencies or plotholes? Shepard's blind acceptance of everything the Starchild says and lack of investigate option? The "Pick your favorite color" ending sequence where literally none of your decisions throughout the game mattered?

Green looked the coolest.

[Pavs719]

The ending was pathetic, you battle on and on, collect this and that, for 3 options, im sorry but for me this was the worst ending ever to a great game, they promised us a great game, they haven't, it was put back for almost a year, we waited, we played to get the worst ending ever, also to many errors as well at the end, will they fix it, here's hoping, I agree with facebook and the petitions for a better ending, come on guys, we have played for hours, bought more dlc than ever for what a stupid ending, i may as well have sat on the bomb in ME1 and thought sod it the worlds going to crap either way, why should I run around like a headless chicken for the same result.

[Persephone]

Stommps wrote...

Persephone wrote...


And the BEST way to make sure you get more Endings is to sabotage Sales by review bombing....

That's how Gabriel Knight III, which ended on a CLIFFHANGER (THAT is and ENDING to be DEPRESSED about!), NEVER got is finale. The fans killed the franchise they wanted to save.

I actually worked on GK3 as a lead tech artist and the series was dead on arrival after it release.  Sierra Online at that point was bleeding money and they financed GK3 like it was going to be the next Diablo which it was never going to be.  GK3 was killed by bad management, planning and financing.

:crying:

I miss that series so much. RPG fans think their genre MIGHT die. Well my fave genre is already dead.

[Tirigon]

deadshame wrote...

Green looked the coolest.

In spite of it being a very spacemagic-y color, I agree.

Too bad you need 2800 assets, and that is VERY hard to get without MP and an imported save. I didnt and my Shepard could only see Red and Blue. Damn the alliance for making the fate of the galaxy dependant on a colorblind who cant recognize the prettiest color.

[Exeider]

Just one question to the OP, and be honest.

When did the Reaper show up to your door, seriously, when did he come over. You can tell me...

-Æ

[Mr. Gogeta34]

I still give the game as a whole a 94%. ME3 is an awesome title, but that ending was just wrong and far below the calibur of the rest of the narrative and predecessors of the trilogy.

[deadshame]

Tirigon wrote...

deadshame wrote...

Green looked the coolest.

In spite of it being a very spacemagic-y color, I agree.

Too bad you need 2800 assets, and that is VERY hard to get without MP and an imported save. I didnt and my Shepard could only see Red and Blue. Damn the alliance for making the fate of the galaxy dependant on a colorblind who cant recognize the prettiest color.

Ehh, they are all space magic-y colored. And I went in with 2911, did not multiplayer. It was a pain in the ass. I didn't even know you had to have a certain amount of assets to get the "different" endings until a couple days ago. What a kick in the nuts that THAT is why we're getting the war assets.

[xsdob]

MajesticJazz wrote...

Guys, I think we're just being trolled.

Nope, this is just what happens when people over the internet have different opinions. I personally like the blue ending, but that's just me.

[Para Pett]

Stommps wrote...


Yes the ending was mediocre at best but the other 59 hours of extremely fun game play vastly out weighted that. I don't want to see a different ending/version.

I so agree with this.  For me, nothing else needs to be said.

[Mr.House]

All questions answered eh? Thanks for the laugh.