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[Viyu]

Persephone wrote...

Alien1099 wrote...

Good for you. Some people enjoy drinking urine. Doesn't mean it tastes good. Mass Effect 3 was a very good or even great game that was ruined by the ending.

And people wonder why this fandom's reputation is as low as it is.

Bandwagon hopping and entitled hysteria. Sickening. (And I don't even like the endings all that much)

Why don't you ask him the better question. How does he know what urine tastes like? Anyway, I'm sick of people saying we're entitled *points to sig* They said multiple endings. So they need to fix this false advertising SNAFU.

[Dragoonlordz]

Tang McGame wrote...

I am genuinely happy for the OP and everyone else who loved the game from start to finish and I wish like hell I was one of you.

I reasonable and mature reply to the topic and respect of other peoples like of what some did not. Shame some other people in here cannot express themselves so maturely.

[AgentEpsilona]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

As I stated on another site... You were told the game would provide closure to elements brought up in the first two. This was done in the game rather than the ending. You will never get 100% closure on everything because the outcomes are infinite over time. You make choice x save it saves y (closure), he goes on and lives happy life or sad one (closure), he had a child and that child went on and lived his life (closure) again and goes on forever. 

Yeah, I see what you mean, but I just think that a lot of us would like just a *bit* more closure than the couple of minutes of cinematic - like in dragon age, where before the credits, you get those boxes that tell you how life panned out for everyone after the game. I know that that would be unusual for ME, (the first games were left without much explanation) - but the fact that this is last game means that people really want to know what happened - and being left with a mysterious ending to the entire trilogy is very frustrating.

Overall, I don't think I'm going to be despressed about this for the rest of my life, (tbh, at the time, the strongest emotion I had was sadness at Shepard never living happily ever after with her LI,) but the fact that there is a strong enough movement developed in reaction, that may get some answers from bioware, makes me want to support it, and possibly get things changed.

Modifié par AgentEpsilona, 14 mars 2012 - 05:49 .

[Persephone]

Tirigon wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Bandwagon hopping and entitled hysteria. Sickening. (And I don't even like the endings all that much)

Or maybe he really didnt like it.
Now you are attacking the people who dislike the ending, how are you better?

Because his subpar behavior merits disgust.

This whole "Cause" garbage is utterly ridiculous when there are ACTUAL causes that deserve this effort and attention more. REAL problems and suffering, rather than entitled fanrage over something that is far from over. It's pretty clear that there is more to this. I love theorizing about it, though. And the review bombing this MAGNIFICENT game received over 5 minutes just about killed all my respect for this fandom. (Not that the Jennifer Hepler incident is a badge of honor either, mind you.)

Modifié par Persephone, 14 mars 2012 - 05:51 .

[Vasarkian]

Viyu wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Alien1099 wrote...

Good for you. Some people enjoy drinking urine. Doesn't mean it tastes good. Mass Effect 3 was a very good or even great game that was ruined by the ending.

And people wonder why this fandom's reputation is as low as it is.

Bandwagon hopping and entitled hysteria. Sickening. (And I don't even like the endings all that much)

Why don't you ask him the better question. How does he know what urine tastes like? Anyway, I'm sick of people saying we're entitled *points to sig* They said multiple endings. So they need to fix this false advertising SNAFU.

A large amount of guys have probably had urine before. Usually what happens is guys urinate in gatorade bottles or something similar on trips or car-rides and then accidentally drink it or another guy does.

[Dragoonlordz]

AgentEpsilona wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

As I stated on another site... You were told the game would provide closure to elements brought up in the first two. This was done in the game rather than the ending. You will never get 100% closure on everything because the outcomes are infinite over time. You make choice x save it saves y (closure), he goes on and lives happy life or sad one (closure), he had a child and that child went on and lived his life (closure) again and goes on forever. 

Yeah, I see what you mean, but I just think that a lot of us would like just a *bit* more closure than the couple of minutes of cinematic - like in dragon age, where before the credits, you get those boxes that tell you how life panned out for everyone after the game. I know that that would be unusual for ME, (the first games were left without much explanation) - but the fact that this is last game means that people really want to know what happened - and being left with a mysterious ending to the entire trilogy is very frustrating.

Overall, I don't think I'm going to be despressed about this for the rest of my life, (tbh, at the time, the strongest emotion I had was sadness at Shepard never living happily ever after with her LI,) but the fact that there is a strong enough movement developed in reaction, that may get some answers from bioware, makes me want to support it, and possibly get things changed.

I do not want the endings changed. For simple reason I enjoyed the endings. I have no problem if you lot were asking for additional optional DLC or alternative ending DLC which can pick up if hate current ones but I will not support and do not want them to change the current ending because it changes what I enjoyed into something I might not. 

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 mars 2012 - 05:55 .

[Sentr0]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

i think the OP didnt quite understood the ending...

And you misunderstand the purpose of games and other forms or entertainment.

purpose of the game is to make me satisfied, since i pay money for it. And it failed miserably

I was made for everyone not just you, others like myself and the OP did enjoy it and did find it satifying and we paid for it too.

Wrong, if the majority of the people arent satisfied by it something is wrong and the whole thing became more closer to being a scam

[Persephone]

Viyu wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Alien1099 wrote...

Good for you. Some people enjoy drinking urine. Doesn't mean it tastes good. Mass Effect 3 was a very good or even great game that was ruined by the ending.

And people wonder why this fandom's reputation is as low as it is.

Bandwagon hopping and entitled hysteria. Sickening. (And I don't even like the endings all that much)

Why don't you ask him the better question. How does he know what urine tastes like? Anyway, I'm sick of people saying we're entitled *points to sig* They said multiple endings. So they need to fix this false advertising SNAFU.

There ARE multiple endings. Technically and story wise. I counted four. Are there similar cutscenes? Yes. Were there SIMILAR cutscenes at the end of ME2, the difference being red or blue? YES. Yet nobody got all bent out of shape. I truly believe this IS about NOT getting the "triumph against all odds" ending.

Modifié par Persephone, 14 mars 2012 - 05:55 .

[Vasarkian]

Persephone wrote...

Viyu wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Alien1099 wrote...

Good for you. Some people enjoy drinking urine. Doesn't mean it tastes good. Mass Effect 3 was a very good or even great game that was ruined by the ending.

And people wonder why this fandom's reputation is as low as it is.

Bandwagon hopping and entitled hysteria. Sickening. (And I don't even like the endings all that much)

Why don't you ask him the better question. How does he know what urine tastes like? Anyway, I'm sick of people saying we're entitled *points to sig* They said multiple endings. So they need to fix this false advertising SNAFU.

There ARE multiple endings. Technically and story wise. I counted four. Are there similar cutscenes? Yes. Were there SIMILAR cutscenes at the end of ME2, the difference being red or blue? YES. Yet nobody got all bent out of shape. I truly believe this IS about NOT getting the "triumph against all odds" ending.

No I expect Shepard to die, but I also expect my assets I spent 27+ hours building to actually do something.

[Dragoonlordz]

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

i think the OP didnt quite understood the ending...

And you misunderstand the purpose of games and other forms or entertainment.

purpose of the game is to make me satisfied, since i pay money for it. And it failed miserably

I was made for everyone not just you, others like myself and the OP did enjoy it and did find it satifying and we paid for it too.

Wrong, if the majority of the people arent satisfied by it something is wrong and the whole thing became more closer to being a scam

Grow up, if you cannot debate like an adult without hysterics then don't try. Do not claim majority on this as like said before it turns the person who does into a fool. You are just one person, other people are individuals, the petition for changes of few thousand compared to few million sold. You do not know if you are majority or minority amongst those millions. What I have seen is a few thousand people complaining against a backdrop of a few million who are not. This number would imply th opposite to what you are claiming but noone here knows the real facts of majority/minority. It was not a scam it was a product paid for to entertain and it succeeded for some and not others.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 mars 2012 - 05:59 .

[Persephone]

Vasarkian wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Viyu wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Alien1099 wrote...

Good for you. Some people enjoy drinking urine. Doesn't mean it tastes good. Mass Effect 3 was a very good or even great game that was ruined by the ending.

And people wonder why this fandom's reputation is as low as it is.

Bandwagon hopping and entitled hysteria. Sickening. (And I don't even like the endings all that much)

Why don't you ask him the better question. How does he know what urine tastes like? Anyway, I'm sick of people saying we're entitled *points to sig* They said multiple endings. So they need to fix this false advertising SNAFU.

There ARE multiple endings. Technically and story wise. I counted four. Are there similar cutscenes? Yes. Were there SIMILAR cutscenes at the end of ME2, the difference being red or blue? YES. Yet nobody got all bent out of shape. I truly believe this IS about NOT getting the "triumph against all odds" ending.

No I expect Shepard to die, but I also expect my assets I spent 27+ hours building to actually do something.

They do. They make IT POSSIBLE for earth to hold out and for you to come in and save the day while there is still a galaxy left to save. That is what war assets do, they buy time. Easiest logic, really. They determine earth's fate and, supposedly, what choices are possible at the end.

[AgentEpsilona]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I do not want the endings changed. For simple reason I enjoyed the endings. I have no problem if you lot were asking for additional optional DLC or alternative ending DLC which can pick up if hate current ones but I will not support and do not want them to change the current ending because it changes what I enjoyed into something I might not. 

An optional DLC that picks up after Shepard has <spoiler cough>collapsed on the crucible, (not died)</spoiler cough> would be perfect. There could be some nice adventuring as she attempts to explore the galaxy, finalising in a happy ending where she lands on the Normandy's island to meet with the rest of the crew. Is that too much? That's never going to happen I guess.

[Sentr0]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

AgentEpsilona wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

As I stated on another site... You were told the game would provide closure to elements brought up in the first two. This was done in the game rather than the ending. You will never get 100% closure on everything because the outcomes are infinite over time. You make choice x save it saves y (closure), he goes on and lives happy life or sad one (closure), he had a child and that child went on and lived his life (closure) again and goes on forever. 

Yeah, I see what you mean, but I just think that a lot of us would like just a *bit* more closure than the couple of minutes of cinematic - like in dragon age, where before the credits, you get those boxes that tell you how life panned out for everyone after the game. I know that that would be unusual for ME, (the first games were left without much explanation) - but the fact that this is last game means that people really want to know what happened - and being left with a mysterious ending to the entire trilogy is very frustrating.

Overall, I don't think I'm going to be despressed about this for the rest of my life, (tbh, at the time, the strongest emotion I had was sadness at Shepard never living happily ever after with her LI,) but the fact that there is a strong enough movement developed in reaction, that may get some answers from bioware, makes me want to support it, and possibly get things changed.

I do not want the endings changed. For simple reason I enjoyed the endings. I have no problem if you lot were asking for additional optional DLC or alternative ending DLC which can pick up if hate current ones but I will not support and do not want them to change the current ending because it changes what I enjoyed into something I might not. 

even if new endings are made, it'll still be a dlc so you'll be able to not download it. Dont worry

Modifié par Sentr0, 14 mars 2012 - 06:00 .

[Innocent Erendira]

I can only be envious of op's happiness. That's the kind of person I've become.

[Persephone]

AgentEpsilona wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

I do not want the endings changed. For simple reason I enjoyed the endings. I have no problem if you lot were asking for additional optional DLC or alternative ending DLC which can pick up if hate current ones but I will not support and do not want them to change the current ending because it changes what I enjoyed into something I might not. 

An optional DLC that picks up after Shepard has <spoiler cough>collapsed on the crucible, (not died)</spoiler cough> would be perfect. There could be some nice adventuring as she attempts to explore the galaxy, finalising in a happy ending where she lands on the Normandy's island to meet with the rest of the crew. Is that too much? That's never going to happen I guess.

Bioware has something planned, just give them time. Badgering them won't help either side.

[Costin_Razvan]

Persephone: You might as well be arguing against the damned wind. The endings are not the same, I will state this until it gets into people's skulls but Control does not mean the Relays are destroyed.

But of course people want the BS ending of having everyone alive and defeating the Reapers with no consequence. Screw that ****.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 14 mars 2012 - 06:06 .

[Persephone]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Persephone: You might as well be arguing against the damned wind.

Nothing ever changes, eh?

Good to see you around, Costin.

[Sentr0]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

i think the OP didnt quite understood the ending...

And you misunderstand the purpose of games and other forms or entertainment.

purpose of the game is to make me satisfied, since i pay money for it. And it failed miserably

I was made for everyone not just you, others like myself and the OP did enjoy it and did find it satifying and we paid for it too.

Wrong, if the majority of the people arent satisfied by it something is wrong and the whole thing became more closer to being a scam

Grow up, if you cannot debate like an adult without hysterics then don't try. Do not claim majority on this as like said before it turns the person who does into a fool. You are just one person, other people are individuals, the petition for changes of few thousand compared to few million sold. You do not know if you are majority or minority amongst those millions.

No you're wrong again, saying that the majority hated the ending is a FACT, just look at reviews and pools and forums and whatever else. If you deny that you're just a troll (even a bad one)

[tornblade]

I'm really glad you enjoyed the game OP. I really am. I enjoyed the majority of the game as well. I'm also glad that you enjoyed the ending. However I do strongly disagree with your assessment of the ending. Wrong forum for me to explain why, which is a good reason I suppose for coming to this forum specifically. Bravo. Put this post in the spoilers forum.

There is one thing I can say though that is a load of bull - I didn't pay $80 to use my own imagination. I can do that without buying anything. If you enjoy paying someone money to imagine how something you've spent countless hours playing ends, great. I, and many others, do not.

[Persephone]

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

i think the OP didnt quite understood the ending...

And you misunderstand the purpose of games and other forms or entertainment.

purpose of the game is to make me satisfied, since i pay money for it. And it failed miserably

I was made for everyone not just you, others like myself and the OP did enjoy it and did find it satifying and we paid for it too.

Wrong, if the majority of the people arent satisfied by it something is wrong and the whole thing became more closer to being a scam

Grow up, if you cannot debate like an adult without hysterics then don't try. Do not claim majority on this as like said before it turns the person who does into a fool. You are just one person, other people are individuals, the petition for changes of few thousand compared to few million sold. You do not know if you are majority or minority amongst those millions.

No you're wrong again, saying that the majority hated the ending is a FACT, just look at reviews and pools and forums and whatever else. If you deny that you're just a troll (even a bad one)

So, millions have voted on this......

Wait, no, just a few thousand....

Not a majority, dear, sorry.

[Costin_Razvan]

Persephone wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Persephone: You might as well be arguing against the damned wind.

Nothing ever changes, eh?

Good to see you around, Costin.

Still around, doing the same thing you are.

That is arguing against the wind. ME3 has major issues ( TIM for instance ) but the endings are not part of those.

[Dragoonlordz]

Sentr0 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Grow up, if you cannot debate like an adult without hysterics then don't try. Do not claim majority on this as like said before it turns the person who does into a fool. You are just one person, other people are individuals, the petition for changes of few thousand compared to few million sold. You do not know if you are majority or minority amongst those millions.

No you're wrong again, saying that the majority hated the ending is a FACT, just look at reviews and pools and forums and whatever else. If you deny that you're just a troll (even a bad one)

No.. Show me a poll that has millions of customers stating they hate it else drop the bull about majority/minority.

Millions of copies sold few thousand in poll and few reviews does not mean those few thousand are the majority.

If ayone is trolling sir it would be you at this stage for making that statement and assumption.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 mars 2012 - 06:09 .

[Persephone]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Persephone: You might as well be arguing against the damned wind.

Nothing ever changes, eh?

Good to see you around, Costin.

Still around, doing the same thing you are.

That is arguing against the wind. ME3 has major issues ( TIM for instance ) but the endings are not part of those.

Well, they handled the whole TIM scenario better that I feared they might.

In this game at least, you could be ruthlessly efficient (Sabotaging the *Spoiler* for example) rather than just being a jerk. I liked that. Not my path, but I like it.

[Sentr0]

Persephone wrote...

So, millions have voted on this......

Wait, no, just a few thousand....

Not a majority, dear, sorry.

then call the remaining milions and make them vote... till then stfu, the majority voted ending sucks. period. deal with it

[Dragoonlordz]

Sentr0 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

So, millions have voted on this......

Wait, no, just a few thousand....

Not a majority, dear, sorry.

then call the remaining milions and make them vote... till then stfu, the majority voted ending sucks. period. deal with it

Honestly trying to make you see some resemblance of reason and logic in this regard about claiming majority or minorities is like talking to a child. I think it is best to ignore you from this point on and I think worth advising Pers to do same.