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[heretica]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

Must be nice to be OP.

[Costin_Razvan]

Well, they handled the whole TIM scenario better that I feared they might.

In this game at least, you could be ruthlessly efficient (Sabotaging the *Spoiler* for example) rather than just being a jerk. I liked that. Not my path, but I like it.

The only reason why I am not joining the shouting for calling ME3 a BS game is that they went to great lengths to at least TRY and explain TIM, it's still very bad as I see it but it is something.

[Persephone]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Well, they handled the whole TIM scenario better that I feared they might.

In this game at least, you could be ruthlessly efficient (Sabotaging the *Spoiler* for example) rather than just being a jerk. I liked that. Not my path, but I like it.

The only reason why I am not joining the shouting for calling ME3 a BS game is that they went to great lengths to at least TRY and explain TIM, it's still very bad as I see it but it is something.

Well, to me it's the best game Bioware ever made. Hiccups & all. But gotcha. 

[Dave of Canada]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The only reason why I am not joining the shouting for calling ME3 a BS game is that they went to great lengths to at least TRY and explain TIM, it's still very bad as I see it but it is something.

Would've enjoyed it more had they avoided indoctrination and given the option to assist him, his goals aren't bad and I see no reason why my Shepard is forced to work against his agenda (only to go with it in the end, go figure). Hell, I hoped for the ability to use Sanctuary and the like.

Shame they had to throw the "cerberus is evil" in my face every minute and I was forced to accept it.

[Persephone]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The only reason why I am not joining the shouting for calling ME3 a BS game is that they went to great lengths to at least TRY and explain TIM, it's still very bad as I see it but it is something.

Would've enjoyed it more had they avoided indoctrination and given the option to assist him, his goals aren't bad and I see no reason why my Shepard is forced to work against his agenda (only to go with it in the end, go figure). Hell, I hoped for the ability to use Sanctuary and the like.

Shame they had to throw the "cerberus is evil" in my face every minute and I was forced to accept it.

Imagine the FAN RAGE if they had done that. I watched a video of a certain ruthless (Yet very beneficial to the war) decision in ME3. It was hated and the poster was called a monster for doing this.

[instantdeath999]

***Spoiler alert.****



On the people saying that all life in the galaxy died out... I personally got the impression that the other races populated the Sol system, and Buzz Aldrin at the end was alluding to the fact that the galaxy is "filled with life".  Essentially, humanity just has to start over, before the space race.  In that way, it was really fitting to have Buzz Aldrin do the voice.



****End Spoiler****

Modifié par instantdeath999, 14 mars 2012 - 06:35 .

[Ryvack]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

I haven't reached the ending yet...but this^ ....LOL!

[Costin_Razvan]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The only reason why I am not joining the shouting for calling ME3 a BS game is that they went to great lengths to at least TRY and explain TIM, it's still very bad as I see it but it is something.

Would've enjoyed it more had they avoided indoctrination and given the option to assist him, his goals aren't bad and I see no reason why my Shepard is forced to work against his agenda (only to go with it in the end, go figure). Hell, I hoped for the ability to use Sanctuary and the like.

Shame they had to throw the "cerberus is evil" in my face every minute and I was forced to accept it.

I know how you feel in that regard.

[Tirigon]

Persephone wrote...

This whole "Cause" garbage is utterly ridiculous when there are ACTUAL causes that deserve this effort and attention more. REAL problems and suffering, rather than entitled fanrage over something that is far from over.

I believe people with this "cause" are more honest than those twittering about poor children in africa.

Does that suck? Yea, probably, but at least it is honest. We live in a cruel world, I know.
A world in which for most of us - including you, since you are posting here instead of helping people in some third world country - care more about games than foreign countries.

It's pretty clear that there is more to this. I love theorizing about it, though. And the review bombing this MAGNIFICENT game received over 5 minutes just about killed all my respect for this fandom. (Not that the Jennifer Hepler incident is a badge of honor either, mind you.)

A valid opinion, of course. But for me, if the ending is not really the ending though it was promised as one, that makes it even worse. I ask you to at least TRY to understand that position.

Oh, and dont judge things based on the fans. They always suck (including me, probably:innocent:).

[ebevan91]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Ahh, so you respect that the ending is whatever you spin it to be instead of being an actual ending you experienced.

That's respectable... and some endings are like that.

But, with all due respect... you can't say loose ends were tied up and "it was left open to come up with my own conclusions" at the same time...

I saw that as well.

When I first read that the loose ends were tied up, I though OK, to each his own, then I read that it was left open. Contradictory.

[Tirigon]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The only reason why I am not joining the shouting for calling ME3 a BS game is that they went to great lengths to at least TRY and explain TIM, it's still very bad as I see it but it is something.

Would've enjoyed it more had they avoided indoctrination and given the option to assist him, his goals aren't bad and I see no reason why my Shepard is forced to work against his agenda (only to go with it in the end, go figure). Hell, I hoped for the ability to use Sanctuary and the like.

Shame they had to throw the "cerberus is evil" in my face every minute and I was forced to accept it.

I agree with that.
Now, I would have opted to personally killing as many Cerberus dudes anyways because some things, like Sanctuary, dont deserve anything else imo. But if you want to play a Shephard who values efficiency over basic human (or interspecies) rights, you should have the option to do so.

[AtreiyaN7]

Don't worry about it - some of us enjoyed the experience as well. As for the others who seem to have a profound need to vent and insult anyone who did enjoy it...well, just ignore them. Apparently, they can't stand for anyone else to be happy if they're not.

[Wise Men]

AtreiyaN7 wrote...

Don't worry about it - some of us enjoyed the experience as well. As for the others who seem to have a profound need to vent and insult anyone who did enjoy it...well, just ignore them. Apparently, they can't stand for anyone else to be happy if they're not.

I love your sig. 

Modifié par Wise Men, 14 mars 2012 - 06:49 .

[Sir Fluffykins]

Hi, got this game last Friday, played it far more then I would usually play other games, loved it so much...up until the end.

I don't know how to describe how I feel right now. I did everything, all the side quests, Talked to everyone between missions and there were so many great moments and I built up my War Assets close to 7000 before even touching multiplayer.

I loved this game, I was set up for the ultimate finale, The GIANT  (to avoid spoilers) was in sight, running lasers, my heart was going, unexpected event, slow walking, slow-mo shooting, Worry and excitement altogether, horror and mystery in the citadel. The control room, arguing, satisfaction as I Paragon-Talk my way through. Now it's here, finale explanation doesn't make much sense but I accept it, it could be Indoctrination trying to fool me, it's explaining how everything began, now I can see what ending my choices have earned me, see how many survive based on the war assets collected, see what happens to the fleet, my crew, waiting to see how the game plays out based on 3 games of choices, excited and waiting then....

Pick 3 choices....at this point I had this terrible feeling in my stomach, like I could see what was happening. People all complain about the Mass Relay thing, but since ME2 I suspected they would be involved (due to previous plot given and the fact the game is called Mass Effect). All my chocies, meant nothing, all those war assets meant nothing, so you saved the Rachni queen, big deal, 100 points, it hit me so hard at that exact point.

But I thought, I'm being silly, maybe it'll be like Dragon Age where we get a summary of what we did and how it changed things. So I pick middle option, it sounded like a Paragon choice....and for my choice I got to see Shepards face getting burnt off. Relays do their thing which I expected, then....Joker flying somewhere...trying to go faster. It looks happy, EDI and Joker...that's nice...wait isn't that Tali...wasn't she with me when I got...near the end...I thought...what.

Credits roll....I'm still waiting...Planets and two figures, this must be it! "Shepard became a Legend, now you can continue and play DLC"

I cannot express how horrible that ending(s) were. The game was completely flawless, how can the last few minutes be a confusing jumble? Couldn't we even get a text box saying how our choices affected those who survived and who died? I mean...so after playing 3 games as pure Paragon doing everything, making choices I thought would affect the story, I get the same ending as a Renegade who rushed through the game?

There was an uproar when Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows ended with a tiny Epilogue, Mass Effect 3 has ended with no epilogue...I would have been happy with a text box! The endings weren't satisfying, I expected a bittersweet ending, but this...

This won't end my life and this will be my only post, but geeez, way to kick your fans at the moment they should be applauding you. Best game I've ever played and the ending ruined the entire series, why would I replay now? I'd get the same ending.

I replayed just to try shoot the kid, thinking it was all indoctrination and there was another ending

Thank you Bioware for an excellent game, but I'm afraid I'm not happy with this strange/confusing conclusion to such an epic game

Modifié par Sir Fluffykins, 14 mars 2012 - 07:00 .

[Persephone]

Tirigon wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The only reason why I am not joining the shouting for calling ME3 a BS game is that they went to great lengths to at least TRY and explain TIM, it's still very bad as I see it but it is something.

Would've enjoyed it more had they avoided indoctrination and given the option to assist him, his goals aren't bad and I see no reason why my Shepard is forced to work against his agenda (only to go with it in the end, go figure). Hell, I hoped for the ability to use Sanctuary and the like.

Shame they had to throw the "cerberus is evil" in my face every minute and I was forced to accept it.

I agree with that.
Now, I would have opted to personally killing as many Cerberus dudes anyways because some things, like Sanctuary, dont deserve anything else imo. But if you want to play a Shephard who values efficiency over basic human (or interspecies) rights, you should have the option to do so.

You can, on several occasions. From supporting certain people to betraying others. All there. Supporting Cerberus isn't required. I'd have liked the option though.

[Chromie]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The only reason why I am not joining the shouting for calling ME3 a BS game is that they went to great lengths to at least TRY and explain TIM, it's still very bad as I see it but it is something.

Would've enjoyed it more had they avoided indoctrination and given the option to assist him, his goals aren't bad and I see no reason why my Shepard is forced to work against his agenda (only to go with it in the end, go figure). Hell, I hoped for the ability to use Sanctuary and the like.

Shame they had to throw the "cerberus is evil" in my face every minute and I was forced to accept it.

I know how you feel in that regard.

That unfortunately would require Bioware to do more work. Which they won't do. Just imagine a different branching path like that other game. 

[SaY4cT]

It's people like you who will make 35K go down the drain, OP.

[Rafe34]

ognick23 wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Jellyfish Opera wrote...

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

Good to hear, I liked the game too, more than I would've thought. I like it more than Mass Effect 2, don't know if I would put it above Mass Effect though, I haven't given it much thought.

Sorry if anyone here is being a jackass.

Thank you, I'm not upset with anyone voicing their opinion (maybe I a little annoyed that I have to keep repeating why I enjoyed the ending), everyone has a right to their opinion and I respect that.

You are not alone in enjoying the ending, many others did so too including myself.

Congrats, you're one of the 3% who did.

You're welcome to keep your ending, the rest of us would like an option for Shepard not to bow to the will of the Reaper God-Child.

where'd u get that percentage from huh? link or it didnt happen

Right here. It's down to 2% actually: 
http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/ 

And people who say that just because we "only" have 45,000 votes out of millions of copies sold means we're in the minority are a bunch of morons who don't understand how polls work AT ALL. Presidential polls are done with far less people.

Sure it's probably not 98% unhappy with the endings as is. But it sure as hell leads one to think its a very large majority. You certainly don't have any evidence, at all, that it's the other way around. 

Please, feel free to link to a poll that has the majority, 51%, not even a vast majority, just a simple majority, that says the endings are okay with, hmm, let's say 1/10 as many votes. (4k+) (Hint: There isn't one.)

[Persephone]

Skelter192 wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The only reason why I am not joining the shouting for calling ME3 a BS game is that they went to great lengths to at least TRY and explain TIM, it's still very bad as I see it but it is something.

Would've enjoyed it more had they avoided indoctrination and given the option to assist him, his goals aren't bad and I see no reason why my Shepard is forced to work against his agenda (only to go with it in the end, go figure). Hell, I hoped for the ability to use Sanctuary and the like.

Shame they had to throw the "cerberus is evil" in my face every minute and I was forced to accept it.

I know how you feel in that regard.

That unfortunately would require Bioware to do more work. Which they won't do. Just imagine a different branching path like that other game. 

ME3 got that other one beat when it comes do variables however, it shows how to REALLY import decisions. Now if we could have BOTH.......

[Persephone]

Rafe34 wrote...

ognick23 wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Jellyfish Opera wrote...

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

Good to hear, I liked the game too, more than I would've thought. I like it more than Mass Effect 2, don't know if I would put it above Mass Effect though, I haven't given it much thought.

Sorry if anyone here is being a jackass.

Thank you, I'm not upset with anyone voicing their opinion (maybe I a little annoyed that I have to keep repeating why I enjoyed the ending), everyone has a right to their opinion and I respect that.

You are not alone in enjoying the ending, many others did so too including myself.

Congrats, you're one of the 3% who did.

You're welcome to keep your ending, the rest of us would like an option for Shepard not to bow to the will of the Reaper God-Child.

where'd u get that percentage from huh? link or it didnt happen

Right here. It's down to 2% actually: 
http://social.biowar...06/polls/28989/ 

And people who say that just because we "only" have 45,000 votes out of millions of copies sold means we're in the minority are a bunch of morons who don't understand how polls work AT ALL. Presidential polls are done with far less people.

Sure it's probably not 98% unhappy with the endings as is. But it sure as hell leads one to think its a very large majority. You certainly don't have any evidence, at all, that it's the other way around. 

Please, feel free to link to a poll that has the majority, 51%, not even a vast majority, just a simple majority, that says the endings are okay with, hmm, let's say 1/10 as many votes. (4k+) (Hint: There isn't one.)

Because quantity determines quality. Uh Huh.

[Heavenly_King]

MASS EFFECT 3 is amazing!! But I think it is lacking some "things" in the RPG department, like more hubs (like the citadel) to explore, and get to investigate more planets with some kind of missions like in ME2. The game is terrific, but I really hope that in future games (or DLC) Bioware can expand upon that, PLEASE!!!

[Tirigon]

Persephone wrote...

You can, on several occasions. From supporting certain people to betraying others. All there. Supporting Cerberus isn't required. I'd have liked the option though.

Sure, and I admit I even did in a few occasions, though overall I hate Renegade (way too cruel imo), when it seemed more appropriate. But for the kind of guy who thinks turning people into husks is OK if it allows to win the war, I would have liked that option.
Because more options = better, even if I would never use it.

[Rune-Chan]

Glad you enjoyed it, but I can't say I felt all of my questions were answered.

It leaves it open perfectly for sequels, but it did not resolve the Shepard arc satisfactorily

[Rafe34]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rafe34 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Jellyfish Opera wrote...

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

Good to hear, I liked the game too, more than I would've thought. I like it more than Mass Effect 2, don't know if I would put it above Mass Effect though, I haven't given it much thought.

Sorry if anyone here is being a jackass.

Thank you, I'm not upset with anyone voicing their opinion (maybe I a little annoyed that I have to keep repeating why I enjoyed the ending), everyone has a right to their opinion and I respect that.

You are not alone in enjoying the ending, many others did so too including myself.

Congrats, you're one of the 3% who did.

You're welcome to keep your ending, the rest of us would like an option for Shepard not to bow to the will of the Reaper God-Child.

Don't assign percentages to either side. It only makes a fool of the person who does so. The fanbase of Bioware, even of each title spans the millions. Do not assume you speak for a majority or minority on here or in general out of those millions just because a few thousand complained while a few million did not.

Assigning a percentage is perfectly valid when there is a poll of 45,000 people that says 2-3% like the endings.

And if you think 45k isn't enough to get a feel for how the fanbase feels, then you have no idea how polls work.

[Costin_Razvan]

Assigning a percentage is perfectly valid when there is a poll of 45,000 people that says 2-3% like the endings.

And if you think 45k isn't enough to get a feel for how the fanbase feels, then you have no idea how polls work.

How about the 7% who just don't like the Normandy scene but are perfectly fine with everything else? Because you know what, I am one of those. ( though I don't feel it's a stab in the back, rather I feel it should have been done better ).

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 14 mars 2012 - 07:02 .