Rivermann wrote...
No, but if it said lesbians I would, maybe not about those specifically but why look for lesbians if you won't talk about lesbian related things?
Well, exactly. You have a double standard. Women could talk about a variety of things, but there's only one thing, apparently, that homosexuals could POSSIBLY have to talk about.
Going back to what you originally wrote:
Rivermann wrote...
The only thing that differs gay people from straight people is by definition their sexual orientation.
Well, by definition, there's only a chromosomal difference between men (XY) and women(XX). So, let me ask you, when you saw that the female-centric thread included more than discussions of breasts, periods, and double X chromosomes, were you enraged? Of course not. Because you realize that, aside from the "definitional" difference, the experience of being a woman is vastly different than that of being a man, and informs their perspective on a variety of issues. Them being the minority in gaming ALSO affects their relationship with the community at large. A woman's experience playing with men is different than my experience playing with this community because I am the majority: I don't have to deal with other gamers making sexist remarks either toward me or offhandedly, because most other gamers are statistically fairly similar in background to me.
This is the EXACT same thing for homosexuals. To say: "The only difference between my life and a gay man's life is that I like women and he likes dudes," seems so willfully ignorant of reality that I'm having a hard time keeping my patience with this conversation.
Rivermann wrote...
That was what my initial thought was, it was my logic that came that reasoning. A title normally and should indicate the topic.
My point is that you come to your "logical" end point by way of a fairly misguided preconcieved notion.
Rivermann wrote...
Edit: Another clarification as I expect to get nitpicked on every word: By sex I mean gay, the sexual orientation, sex-ual orientation, and everything that comes along with it.
Everything that comes along with it is a pretty big catch-all. If you really viewed the topic so broadly, I really don't understand your issues with the thread whatsoever.
RedJohn wrote...
I don't know in your case, but in mine when i read the title "Any Gay Players Out There?" I thought "really?, do people ask you your sexual preferences when you get into the lobby?"
Because really, post something about this is ...rare.
For future reference to everyone in this thread, this question has already been addressed multiple times. If you seriously wonder about this, why not read the thread to see if perhaps your question has been answered?
As a refresher:
mangrilla wrote...
It's not random players KNOWING the orientation, it's them tossing out slurs that make a person of that orientation uncomfortable.
Imagine if instead of saying "That's gay" or calling others ****gots, players used the n-word constantly. "THAT N-WORD BANSHEE JUST KILLED ME!" "That vanguard n-word just keeps getting his stupid n-word ass killed!"
Random players would have no idea if they were playing with a black person or not, but that black person would still have every right to feel pretty uncomfortable about it. This isn't about "wearing it on your sleeve" or whatever. It's about people being able to to just play a game and have fun without hearing people slur who you are constantly.
This is a huge point that everyone here really needs to get through their heads: The OP is NOT the one making homosexuality an issue. The random, inconsiderate, biggoted online community that uses homophobic language with complete strangers ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE HOMOSEXUALITY AN ISSUE. If not for people yelling "****got" whenever someone doesn't get to the checkpoint in time, or whatever, this thread would most likely not exist.
Rivermann wrote...
Sex, religion and racism has no place in a video game forum in my opinion, it doesn't make me misguided or think less of anyone.
So you would have similar objections to a Christian looking for other like-minded people to play a game with? As I said earlier, if you can say with a straight face that you would object a thread titled "Any Christian Gamers out there?" in the same way that you've acted here... I still don't understand you, but at least you're consistent. Having said that, I doubt that's the case for at least the majority of dissenters here.
Squirrelwiz wrote...
Utilizing a Shock title (as you have), is much like growing a beard, wearing a turban, boarding a plane, and then standing up and quoting the Quran.
W.O.W. So Muslims can't get on planes now. What is shocking about asking if any gay people play this game? Seriously? There's a term for what you're doing here, and it's called "Blaming the Victim." Where does that stop for you? "Surely, those rednecks wouldn't have killed that gay man if only he had kept his homosexuality a deep dark secret!" OP isn't doing anything wrong
Squirrelwiz wrote...
So, gays and straights playing a game together cooperatively in which their respective views on sexuality have no bearing on the gameplay... Why the hell didn't you just say you're making a group for openminded, mature, individuals that has a strict policy on slander? It would get the same thing done, and with less controversy.
Again, because I'm sure you enforce such strict Thread Title rules for every single thread. Surely, you apply no double standard just because this post happens to be by a homosexual.
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