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Every single pixel in the game is owned by BioWare
That Google stock footage is owned by BioWare? I'm shocked, this changes everything.
Unbelievable quote from a new Gamespot article dismissing our concerns over the ending.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 10:47
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That Google stock footage is owned by BioWare? I'm shocked, this changes everything.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 10:48
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Well it's good to know now that a company can lie to me and it's irrelevant. *whew* that takes a load off my mind. I can't believe I didn't see the logic in that before.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 10:51
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Well if this doesn't show the state of mind. <_<
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 10:53
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Ulmont wrote...
The article wrote...
Every single pixel in the game is owned by BioWare
That Google stock footage is owned by BioWare? I'm shocked, this changes everything.
OH GAWD YOU JUST DONT GET IT! LEAVE THE POOR ARTIST ALONE!
Seriously the damn gaming sites are sounding more and more like the "Leave Birtney Alone" guy.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 10:55
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Cody211282 wrote...
OH GAWD YOU JUST DONT GET IT! LEAVE THE POOR ARTIST ALONE!
Seriously the damn gaming sites are sounding more and more like the "Leave Birtney Alone" guy.
By the Maker, I didn't realise until now...
LEAVE BIOWARE ALONE!
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 10:55
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They can discredit our right to change it, but they cant discredit our right to hate it
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 10:56
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Banefire76 on gamespot said this in response;
"I dont think EA...oh i mean Bioware should bother changing the ending of Mass Effect 3. The damage has been done. Dragon Age 2 was rubbish, The Old Republic is lackluster after a while, Drew Karpyshyn who has worked on all my favourite Bioware games has left and with him has taken the best storyteller they had and now Mass Effect 3 with Mac Walters as lead writer has written a hollywood storyline with very little real RPG elements and an ending that for me is the last nail in the Bioware Coffin.
If you truly hate what Bioware has allowed to happen to the integrity that they were once praised for, simply dont buy anymore Bioware products. Be it comics, games, figurines, anime series, DLC. They have made enormous profits by this 3rd instalment of Mass Effect. Let that be the last sale they ever make.
Lets see what Bioware has to say when thier business goes belly up and they are worse off than THQ. I for one will never buy another of thier products because they are "indocrinated" by the publishing giant EA (just like the reapers) now and the most humane thing to do is to end thier suffering by helping them die.
So long Bioware, when you had integrity you were at the pinnacle of the industry. Now all that is left is to play Mass Effect 1 and KOTOR 1 to remind us of what you could have accomplished if you stayed true to your values."
"I dont think EA...oh i mean Bioware should bother changing the ending of Mass Effect 3. The damage has been done. Dragon Age 2 was rubbish, The Old Republic is lackluster after a while, Drew Karpyshyn who has worked on all my favourite Bioware games has left and with him has taken the best storyteller they had and now Mass Effect 3 with Mac Walters as lead writer has written a hollywood storyline with very little real RPG elements and an ending that for me is the last nail in the Bioware Coffin.
If you truly hate what Bioware has allowed to happen to the integrity that they were once praised for, simply dont buy anymore Bioware products. Be it comics, games, figurines, anime series, DLC. They have made enormous profits by this 3rd instalment of Mass Effect. Let that be the last sale they ever make.
Lets see what Bioware has to say when thier business goes belly up and they are worse off than THQ. I for one will never buy another of thier products because they are "indocrinated" by the publishing giant EA (just like the reapers) now and the most humane thing to do is to end thier suffering by helping them die.
So long Bioware, when you had integrity you were at the pinnacle of the industry. Now all that is left is to play Mass Effect 1 and KOTOR 1 to remind us of what you could have accomplished if you stayed true to your values."
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 10:56
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Benrosan wrote...
Hot off the presses. This article comes to us from Gamespot's finest:
"Some people have argued that in Mass Effect 3, BioWare has delivered something different to what it promised. This is irrelevant. In its role as both an art object and a consumer product, Mass Effect 3 remains the property of its maker. As a final product, it is the expression of those who created it, and its sole objective is to be consumed--not recreated--by its audience."
There you have it fans, so take your broken promises, your Red, Green, and Blue ending and be happy with it. And don't you dare bring up any of the massive plot holes.
So essentially, if you don't like what we have done, tough. Bioware are so great at allienating their customers.
Bioware is a company that can't make an ending, simple as, just look at Dragon Age 2.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 10:58
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They have every right to end the game however they want. I have no qualms with that. That is their right as artists. I have to deal with whatever bioware provides me for what I have purchased. It is art in a way.
But it is also a product. If I do not believe it was a satisfactory product, then I will voice my opinion as such. No one is threatening violence if the ending isn't changed. We are simply stating that we will no longer provide any money to a company that we feel no longer provides us with satisfactory products.
And as long as I am in an area where I am able to voice my opinion, I will continue to do so.
On another note. When do you think Gamespot will do their next Kane and Lynch review . . .
But it is also a product. If I do not believe it was a satisfactory product, then I will voice my opinion as such. No one is threatening violence if the ending isn't changed. We are simply stating that we will no longer provide any money to a company that we feel no longer provides us with satisfactory products.
And as long as I am in an area where I am able to voice my opinion, I will continue to do so.
On another note. When do you think Gamespot will do their next Kane and Lynch review . . .
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 10:58
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IGN, Gamespot, Etc, CANT give honest reviews. The minute they do companies like EA start pulling the money, early game releases for reviews, and other "special privileges" they are able to benefit from.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 10:59
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Denethar wrote...
Meh, Gamespot is an even bigger joke than IGN. While IGN is always suspected of being bought by game companies, Gamespot has pretty much been confirmed to be controlled by EA.
So kotaku is a joke, Ign is a joke, Destructiod, G4, Source Fed, Philip Defranco, Giant Bomb, Gamespot, shall we continue or should I just assume you guys are dense and don't want to see the big picture here? There is not one gaming site that actually agrees with you other than Gamefront (whoever that is)
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 10:59
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Chaota Vos wrote...
Cody211282 wrote...
OH GAWD YOU JUST DONT GET IT! LEAVE THE POOR ARTIST ALONE!
Seriously the damn gaming sites are sounding more and more like the "Leave Birtney Alone" guy.
By the Maker, I didn't realise until now...
LEAVE BIOWARE ALONE!
Hey at least he got to go on Tosh.0, i doubt she will get that famous.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:00
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GothamLord wrote...
IGN, Gamespot, Etc, CANT give honest reviews. The minute they do companies like EA start pulling the money, early game releases for reviews, and other "special privileges" they are able to benefit from.
^^
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:00
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Dridengx wrote...
Denethar wrote...
Meh, Gamespot is an even bigger joke than IGN. While IGN is always suspected of being bought by game companies, Gamespot has pretty much been confirmed to be controlled by EA.
So kotaku is a joke, Ign is a joke, Destructiod, G4, Source Fed, Philip Defranco, Giant Bomb, Gamespot, shall we continue or should I just assume you guys are dense and don't want to see the big picture here? There is not one gaming site that actually agrees with you other than Gamefront (whoever that is)
Pretty much this. I don't know how much more it's going to take before they realize how ridiculous their claims are and how much they look like idiots for demanding something like this.
However, Destructoid said it the best.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:00
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Gamespot, IGN, etc... They've all been bought. They don't matter.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:00
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I completely agree with Gamespot here. I understand why someone could be somewhat disappointed with the ending but all the "I will fight for the ending I WANT" that goes on here is quite ridiculous.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:01
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Dridengx wrote...
Denethar wrote...
Meh, Gamespot is an even bigger joke than IGN. While IGN is always suspected of being bought by game companies, Gamespot has pretty much been confirmed to be controlled by EA.
So kotaku is a joke, Ign is a joke, Destructiod, G4, Source Fed, Philip Defranco, Giant Bomb, Gamespot, shall we continue or should I just assume you guys are dense and don't want to see the big picture here? There is not one gaming site that actually agrees with you other than Gamefront (whoever that is)
I'd take Forbes over any of those holier-than-thau hacks, TBH
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:02
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Chaota Vos wrote...
Dridengx wrote...
Denethar wrote...
Meh, Gamespot is an even bigger joke than IGN. While IGN is always suspected of being bought by game companies, Gamespot has pretty much been confirmed to be controlled by EA.
So kotaku is a joke, Ign is a joke, Destructiod, G4, Source Fed, Philip Defranco, Giant Bomb, Gamespot, shall we continue or should I just assume you guys are dense and don't want to see the big picture here? There is not one gaming site that actually agrees with you other than Gamefront (whoever that is)
I'd take Forbes over any of those holier-than-thau hacks, TBH
That Forbes article looked like it was written by a six year old, tbh. And it was full of nonsense.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:02
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Shadow-Novus wrote...
Is anyone surprised? The last person who gave an honest opinion from Gamespot got fired (Jeff Gerstmann).
They are the *itches of game publishers and they know it
FYI Jeff Gerstmann is now at Giant Bomb and even he thinks your petition, charity, demanding an ending etc is stupid. it's on his site and podcast so theres your "honest opinion" lol
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:03
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I didn't realize Gamespot writers were in anyone's pocket.
This Forbes writer thinks otherwise.
http://www.forbes.co...er-entitlement/
This Forbes writer thinks otherwise.
http://www.forbes.co...er-entitlement/
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:03
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I was actually ignoring these petitions until now. Making dissatisfied fans out to be uncultured swine who just don't "get" it tends to make me change my mind though. The idea that "art" is come kind of miracle rendered in the holy fires of creation is complete BS. If da Vinci painted the Mona Lisa and then stuck it in his closet, it would be irrelevant. Audience interaction is just as important to determinng if something is art as creation is.
And if "artists" are that concerend about telling their story in exactly their own way, they should go write a book and not make an interactive game that claims to incorporate player opinion and uses marketing stunts about telling your own story and seeing the consequences of your decisions. The reason people are pissed about the ME3 endings is because they smother the very thing which makes games a unique artform: the ability to let the audience have some control of the story. In all other storytelling forms, we are just forced to sit and watch. If I wanted that, I'd have read Dune or watched Star Wars. I can get my visual space opera fix in other ways. I play ME3 because I want to do *more* than watch whatever abstract "artistic" dumbassery Bioware comes up with for an ending.
And if "artists" are that concerend about telling their story in exactly their own way, they should go write a book and not make an interactive game that claims to incorporate player opinion and uses marketing stunts about telling your own story and seeing the consequences of your decisions. The reason people are pissed about the ME3 endings is because they smother the very thing which makes games a unique artform: the ability to let the audience have some control of the story. In all other storytelling forms, we are just forced to sit and watch. If I wanted that, I'd have read Dune or watched Star Wars. I can get my visual space opera fix in other ways. I play ME3 because I want to do *more* than watch whatever abstract "artistic" dumbassery Bioware comes up with for an ending.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:03
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alek2702 wrote...
I completely agree with Gamespot here. I understand why someone could be somewhat disappointed with the ending but all the "I will fight for the ending I WANT" that goes on here is quite ridiculous.
What's wrong with fighting for what we want, exactly? Bioware *doesn't* have to do anything about it. And we don't have to buy their games. It just so happens that we WANT to buy their games, if only they'd reciprocate that level of respect.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:04
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HenchxNarf wrote...
That Forbes article looked like it was written by a six year old, tbh. And it was full of nonsense.
Heh, well you know what they say about opinions and a certain orifice...
FYI Jeff Gerstmann is now at Giant Bomb and even he thinks your petition, charity, demanding an ending etc is stupid. it's on his site and podcast so theres your "honest opinion" lol
Gerstmann wrote a buffonic piece that completely missed the basic concept of the charity. Anyone who thinks giving to charity to express disappoint in a game is "stupid" is hardly worth the paper his opinion is (proverbially)written on
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:04
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Dridengx wrote...
Denethar wrote...
Meh, Gamespot is an even bigger joke than IGN. While IGN is always suspected of being bought by game companies, Gamespot has pretty much been confirmed to be controlled by EA.
So kotaku is a joke, Ign is a joke, Destructiod, G4, Source Fed, Philip Defranco, Giant Bomb, Gamespot, shall we continue or should I just assume you guys are dense and don't want to see the big picture here? There is not one gaming site that actually agrees with you other than Gamefront (whoever that is)
Kotaku came out saying it was horrible.
Defranco just said to calm down and that he liked the rest of the game, and that they already have our money and there really isnt anything we can do abou it.
Destructiod (or at least Jims article) was about as unbiased as he gets so I'll leave you to think what you will.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:06
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ed87 wrote...
They can discredit our right to change it, but they cant discredit our right to hate it
More importantly, they cannot discredit our right NOT to buy any it, or anything else.
