Support a happy ending
#351
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:33
#352
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:35
You know, like we were supposed to get.
#353
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:35
Hold the line for as long as it takes to get new endings.
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#354
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:35
#355
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:36
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:38
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Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:50
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#358
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:54
#359
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:55
#360
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:57
Modifié par DreamTension, 24 mars 2012 - 04:58 .
#361
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:58
#362
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 04:59
#363
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 05:02
Of course I also appreciate the need for the opposite, of course I understand tragedy and sacrifice, of course I understand that other's want that ending, I'm glad they have it but I wanted to come away from this series feeling happy and positive, like you did at the end of the previous two.
Shepard has sacrificed him/herself countless times for others, how about someone else returns the favour! Just once, you know?
I know the ending could never be sunshine and rainbows, there will be loss and sacrifice, the option of a more positive and feelgood ending would have been nice. Shepard reunited with LI and crew somehow, that isn't sunshine and rainbows, that is fair..
#364
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 05:04
#365
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 05:07
#366
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 05:14
Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 24 mars 2012 - 05:15 .
#367
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 05:16
_NF_Von_Lipwig wrote...
I'd take any sort of true ending at this point... but a happy ending would most definitely be a bonus.
I still want to build that house on Rannoch.
Agreed.
Along with Turian baby and Asari baby.
#368
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 05:27
Some sites are treating it like a dirty word. Only big brainy grown-ups can appreciate their downbeat endings, kids, not your sunshine-and-lollipops endings. That kind of patronizing stuff, y'know?
I'd be clear, though, that I'd really like a happy (relatively speaking at least) ending available IN ADDITION to others. That gives the player real choice, in much the way ME2 did.
If you want your Shep to end up an amazing hero you can. If you want to play it as ending bittersweet you can. If you want to end it by everying dying you can! Just great to actually have their choice to shape the story you want, rather than being locked into 3 endings that, really, all end things on a pretty depressing note when you think things through a little.
#369
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 05:32
#370
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 05:50
Please understand this only a rough draft,a basic outline of how I think a happy ending could be added to Mass Effect 3from a point that exists in the game. It would also be hard to get at since the only way to get it would be if you had united all the races,gotten Joker and EDI together,and had a high paragon score.
Okay the starting point would be where the star child tells Shepard that organics and machines will always kill each other at this point a paragon quick time action would appear if the player uses it a whole new dialog piece would appear. Shepard would call the starchild on the fact that not only are machines and organics working together but they are even falling in love. The Starchild would say that it would not last but he would be shaken he would then tell Shepard about the three choices. At this point you could choose to go along with him or you could choose to start asking more questions. If you choose to ask more questions the Starchild will give you angry circular answer and keep leading you back to the three choices he wants you to make but from his non answers Shepard would start to work things out for himself and find the answers to the following questions the fate of the galaxy rests on
Why were the Prophens unable to finish the device?
From the the Starchild's Non answers Shepard works out that they had a lot of old grudges and were never able to fully come together.
Why were the people today able to finish it so quickly?
All the races came together but it was more then that since each races has their own way of looking at things each races was able to solve some of the problems and get it done in record time. This links in with the way Hacket told you after you recuited each groups of people that they were helping in some surprising way.
Why are the Reapers able to wage war on the galaxy every 50,000 years and why do they stick to that cycle?
Because they all think the same,they all follow harbieger no matter what and none of them are about to really think for themselves creatively. This makes them hard to beat since they are always working together but Shepard wonders if only having one viewpoint could be a weakness.
Why would a weapon designed to kill Reapers 50,000 years ago still work,most races would have changed so much in that time that the weapon would have no effect?
The reapers can not create for themselves. They can think a bit but they do not have creative thought. That is the real reason they return every 50,000 years. They have to reap what organics create in order to grow. It is also the reason they fear organics,they fear that at some point organics will become more powerful then they are. This is what the collectors were up to in ME2,they were trying to create a prototype for the next generation of Reapers.
What is the Cytalist and why have the Reapers gone out of their way to get Shepard who is just one man since this all started?
The biggest threat to the Reapers is that one of the times when they came back to get new tech and new organic matter so they could grow there would be someone there who would unite the galaxy. The propheans lacked this one special person who could make them see beyond their petty problems and think of bigger issues. The fact is the cytalist is not a device it is a person,Shepard now understands that it is him. The one person who had no stakes in any of the problems so he could look at them from the outside and fix them he is the one person who could get the whole galaxy working together. United but enslaved so that they would still all bring their view points and skills to the war with the Reapers.
If freedom and working together is the key to defeating the Reapers why would the Propheans leave behind a giant weapon that would wipe that that out?
They wouldn't the Star Child must be trying to trick Shepard.
But then why would the Star child do that and how has he been on the Citidal all this time?
He has not. Shepard figures out that the Star Child is just a projection from Harbienger trying to keep him from the truth and trying to get to use the weapon in a way that if the Reapers lose everyone else will go with them.
Shepard figures it out. If some of the settings on the Crucibel are reversed it will send something to the Mass Replays instead of taking energy from them or taking away free will by forcing organics to merge with machines. At this point the Star child tells Shepard that if he does this he could wipe out all life on earth. So the player can choose to do it or go with the three options the Star Child gave Shepard.
If Shepard goes with the new option a signal is sent to every Mass Relay in the galaxy at the same time. What does the signal do? It effects the reapers in such a way that they are not killed but none of the reapers now speak the same langue and since Harbianger is the only one with anything close to creative thought he is the only one who can over come this.
At this point the Star Child screams and goes away and Harbengier bursts in and starts trying to undo what Shepard did. Shepard grabs a piece that is needed to send a signal undoing what he did and runs. At this point the player has to run from the head reaper dodging his attacks. In the end Shepard ends up walking on the outside of the citiadel dodging attacks. He tells the fleet that the fate of the galaxy rests on destroying this reaper. The inter united fleets of the galaxy begin attack him but his armor is too thick and he is not opening his gun. Shepard has to get him to do this. Now while the player dodges attack Renegade quick action icons pop up each time the player presses one of these Shepard taunts the reaper in the end he loses his temper and opens his gun to shoot Shepard and the fleet locks on. At this point the player is given another choice. Joker wants to bring in the Normandy to pick up Shepard and get him out of the blast. If the player choices no Shepard dies in the blast. If the player choices yes and his EMS is too low the Normandy can't make it and both the Normandy and Shepard are destroyed with the Reaper. If the player choices yes and has a high enough EMS the Normandy crew work together and push the ship harder then it has ever gone before and pick Shepard up a split second before the blast. The Normandy is cought in the massive shock wave and goes spinning out of control and the scene fades out.
When the scene fades back in the Normandy has crashed on earth Shepard makes sure everyone is alright. He then gets a call from Hacket who tells him that the fleet is still cleaning up the last of the Reapers on earth but since they can not talk to each other any more each Reaper can be taken out one at a time and they are getting reports that the same thing is happening all over the galaxy. Shepard makes a thankful speech to his crew and tell them how much he and the galaxy owes them and they have finally broken the cycle and that they have to make sure the world they build is better then the one that came before because too many people died making this new world. Q a montage of every member of your team that died in some happier time. Mordin singing that sort of thing and fade out.
Five year latter.
We see that
Now if Shepard lived and his crew did too we see him leaving a cousil meeting(he is the cousil member from earth now look after the better world he helped create)A reporter says that it has been five years since the end of the Reaper war and billions died does Shepard ever have trouble going on? If Shepard didn't have a LI that lived he says that yes it is and go in to a sad but hopeful speech about remembering the fallen and making a better Galaxy. If Shepard did have LI that lived he see her or him walking up with a child or two and he half smiles and say that yes it is but then you just have to remember what you have to live for and why those people gave their lives. Shepard then joins his family and we then cut to a silent scene of the all the team mates from all three games with Shepard on earth we see what they have been doing who has hooked up with who and Shepard dedicates the wreck of the Normandy as a historic land mark and the crowd then cheers the whole team and as we fade out we see earth being rebuilt but so we don't forget the costs we also see that there are a lot of tombstones of people who died when the reapers attacked. Roll credits
Now if Shepard died and his crew lived I see this happening.
the races are united in a way they never were before,the counsil is not
just made up of three older races controlling everything every race
that helped fight the Reapers now has a voice in it and races that
were fighting each other are now working together. Tali is seen
walking around with out her suit,Garus is now in charge of the
military,and now this is where things change based on a choice the
player makes. There is a statue of Shepard and Liara is talking about
now if she was not Shepard's LI she is telling about group of school
children about Shepard,if she was Shepard's LI she is talking a child
about it and in the end she says "your father was a hero" roll
credits. that ending shows Shepard paying a price but it shows that
there was a reason and that there is hope and that he died making the
galaxy a better place and maybe even saving his family.
How is that type of ending with out cost?
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#371
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 06:14
saracen16 wrote...
I strongly disagree: a "happy" ending would be too cliched and hum-drum. Many of the sci-fi greats including the Mass Effect trilogy have had sad endings with a glimmer of hope (just like in this case). There's a reason that there is no "happy" ending: for every choice you made in the Mass Effect series, there is a cost, a sacrifice, something to lose. To give you a "happy" ending would betray the premise of the series.
It's your point of view and I can live with that. But I don't agree. I don't see why there shouldn't be the option of a happier ending. You are right, there is a cost, a sacrifice and you lose friends on the way and that's why I believe Shepard should have the chance to survive and have a future with her LI and friends.
I really don't care if it's cliché, for me it's a game, which is meant to entertain me and not to frustrate me. I don't mind that other like dark dramatic endings with a heroic death and I don't want to take this choice away from them, but I want the option of a better ending for me.
#372
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 06:17
For a lot of ppl for a "happy" ending we just want to see Shep live and see him/her reunite with LI/crew with maybe some sort of epilogue with the LI. I don't think that betrays anything. Shep has already sacrificed enough.saracen16 wrote...
I strongly disagree: a "happy" ending would be too cliched and hum-drum. Many of the sci-fi greats including the Mass Effect trilogy have had sad endings with a glimmer of hope (just like in this case). There's a reason that there is no "happy" ending: for every choice you made in the Mass Effect series, there is a cost, a sacrifice, something to lose. To give you a "happy" ending would betray the premise of the series.
You force me into watching him/her die after I have spent 100s of hours immersed in the universe, sorry but thats not what this trilogy was all about. It was all about choice. Ending options=everyone happy.
Modifié par Tiercel24, 24 mars 2012 - 06:34 .
#373
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 06:17
#374
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 08:24
Heather Cline wrote...
Aslana said it. I want a happyish ending. Doesn't have to be all sunshine and rainbows. It can be dark in nature but your LI and Shepard can be together in the end. Doesn't have to be disney, doesn't have to be song and dance. But maybe them living on the devastated earth and helping rebuild. That isn't sunshine and rainbows it's a dark future that people are trying to rebuild and go on.
That is what I tried to capture in my ending with out making it feel like everything Shepard did was pointless.
Hold the line for as long as it takes to get new endings.
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Thank you for your time.
#375
Posté 24 mars 2012 - 08:27





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