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#51
pharsti

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Not against a happy ending, but id be happy with a conclusion, or something that at least dealt with my choices instead of choosing 3 flavors.

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Yes I would prefer a happy ending.  I think "the hero saves the day by giving his life" is just as cliche as happy endings are nowadays.  I think a game like ME3 where there is death and destruction wherever you go could use a little bit of happiness at the very end.  I'll also take an ending that makes sense (happy or not) over the crap they trotted out.

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double post oops

Modifié par yahtzo, 16 mars 2012 - 08:08 .


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Bioware told us that they care about their fans, customers. I don't want to complain about why the endings are bad, or good. You can find plenty of explanations out there on the internet.

So I just want to share my thoughts about what I would consider a good ending for Mass Effect 3. (I am not a native speaker. If my english is weird sometimes, sorry :))

Well, allow me to write it down. Just ideas. The game what Bioware created is awesome! Every single game what they created in the last decade is amazing! Ah you know what I just spit it out: MASS EFFECT 3 is their f*cking MASTERPIECE! If they decide not to change the ending, than it remains the same MASTERPIECE in my eyes.

But they asked our opinion regarding the ending so here is mine:

I think Mass Effect 3 need some vastly different and distinct endings.
So, I think at the END of the trilogy, the game doesn't need that space kid. It's just destroys the lore of the Reapers existence entirely. So cut out everything after Anderson dies.
Oh yes, and that means Shepard doesn't have to choose anything at the end. That's the point!!!

Why? Because, our earlier choices will determine the actually ending of our saga. And that's it. No space kid, no last decisions. Just what Shep did in the last couple of hours. And YES If you want to see the other endings of Mass Effect 3 you have to play the game again, with a different Shepard. Not just quick load, and let's see the other one.. No. no.nonono... That would be too easy. You already made your choices, just like in the end of Mass Effect 2, here comes what happens next:

1, VERY BAD ending: What you guys at Bioware created. Minor tweaks of course would be necessary, but that shouldn't be a problem. First of all, cut out the Joker sequence. No need for that. Shepard dies alongside Anderson. The Citadel will blow up, the Reapers will die, Earth will be incinerated. And because every single Mass Relay in the galaxy is going to be destroyed, that means one thing. Every solar system, every species in the known universe is going to be completely destroyed. That's it. THE VERY BEST BAD ENDING.

2, BAD ending: Same scene. Shepard dies alongside Anderson. But the Citadel and every Mass relay will be intact. Of course the Reaper army will destroy the entire galactical armada, and they will finish what they started. The cyle of our destruction will continue. New scene: 50.000 years later: A new alien species discovers the memory box what Liara created. And when the Shepard VI tries to warn them about the Reapers, in that moment, they hear that terrible sound. They look up to the sky, but it's too late, the Reapers are already returned! (Admit it, it's a bad ending, but it's god damn epic!)

3, GOOD Ending: This is the hardest part. Because this is when you have to show what we did in the game mattered. In this ending Shepard will survive the war or not. And to survive the war, he/she needs two criteria. 1, High enough Paragon or Renegade score, and high enough EMS score. If the Paragon and Renegade scores are not high enough, he/she dies, but the good ending still plays if the EMS score is high enough. So here are the variations:

3/A: Shepard is dead. Now you have to show what he/she has accomplished. The major decisions are the most important.

1, Krogan-Turian conflict: cured Genophage, or not (peace or war)
2, Quarian - Geth conflict: peace, Geth survived, Quarian survived
3, Rebuilt Citadel, rebuilt Thessia
4, the crew! some minor things about what happened with them, Liara wrote a book about the protheans, Tali built a new home on Rannoch, James earned the N7 title, etc.... (the guys at Bioware know this better than me. I trust them, I always will!)

3/B: Shepard is alive. The first 4 are the same. And we have a 5th one!
5, Shep and his/her Love interest! Yes this is probably the hardest part. Because there are so many of them. That makes the story more exicting and adds replayability to it!

So there it is! My ideas, and opinion about what I consider a great, satisfying, most of all worthy ending for Mass effect 3.

Secret ending for New Game Plus: If Shep is alive: High enough paragon, or high enough Renegade score will determine his/her life after the war.
1, high enough Renegade score: He/She is a new Admiral in the Alliance fleet!
2, high enough Paragon score: He/she is the new human represantative in the Citadel council!
(Imagine the fans reaction! .... Yeah that's what I am talking about!)
Pure epicness, pure awesomeness!

I just wrote this down because Bioware doesn't deserve our hatred. They need our support, and new ideas! They worked hard to create an awesome experience. And I think they just did that.

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nitefyre410

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I want Options dang namit... I want my Male Shepard of the big damn hero endings... I want my Fem Shep to give her life to save the Galaxy and be reunited with those she lost... but all I want is the option... that is it .

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I wanted a happy ending: Blue children, Marriage, with Liara. D:

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KOTOR, Jade Empire, BG2: Throne of Bhaal, ME1 and ME2 all hate evil or good endings. ME3 breaks the mold entirely but having no good/evil endings and simply three bad ones.

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I'd love a happy ending to be possible. I wouldn't want the outcome to be a happy ending if I had low EMS, but, if I have done and do everything right, then I deserve a good ending, not to be railroaded into some bull**** sad ending for no reason.

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Shepard dives in front of Corporal Jenkins on Eden Prime and dies, thereby saving former fans hours of time.

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Aran Linvail

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Killer3000ad wrote...

KOTOR, Jade Empire, BG2: Throne of Bhaal, ME1 and ME2 all hate evil or good endings. ME3 breaks the mold entirely but having no good/evil endings and simply three bad ones.

 
100% This , if you work hard across all 3 games to save everyone you can and do all the good choices why you cant have a Happy Ending , its stupid , Choices , they promise us Choices , they promise us 16 endings , one of this endings can be a Happy ending.

But no its more deep and artistic have 3 color choices to kill everyone.

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Dridengx wrote...

You do realize, you get your money's worth in one playthrough. Everyone keeps saying how hard it will be to continue playing knowing 'nothing matters' And? there is plenty of films like Six Sense, The Others, The Orphan, and many others because of knowing the ending it makes it harder to watch again. How is this any different?


It's a bioware game, ****. They're supposed to have lots of replayability. 

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I usually hate happy endings in movies for the simple fact 99% of them have ending in which the good guy wins. I often find myself rooting for the villain these days just to see something different. I think the only genre that ever allows for a villain victory is horror/thriller movies.

That aside, this is one of the only times I have ever honestly wanted a truely happy ending. I, along with the other millions of Mass Effect fans have put in countless hours worth of gameplay time, invested feelings and emotions into the characters and their relationships, in some cases having the character we are roleplaying fall for someone. I have sunk alot of playtime into the series, done completionist playthroughs just to make sure my Shepard gets a truely happy end.

Shepard deserves a happy ending and I won't be satisfied unless he/she gets one, it's that simple for me.

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Rolling Flame wrote...

I'd love a happy ending to be possible. I wouldn't want the outcome to be a happy ending if I had low EMS, but, if I have done and do everything right, then I deserve a good ending, not to be railroaded into some bull**** sad ending for no reason.

Exactly. This is what BioWare should do if they remake or release dlc/expansion with new ending. EMS should matter and right now i don't see it that important.

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dsl08002

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I´m up for a happy ending for this game actually

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Horacio Zhao

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I agree. It's just too cruel to let shepard die like that. I think after three games of fighting for others, he deserve a happy ending

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Horacio Zhao wrote...

I agree. It's just too cruel to let shepard die like that. I think after three games of fighting for others, he deserve a happy ending

I'm not saying there should be only the happy ending, but there definitely should be one. If they fix the mess they made i hope they consider this.

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Ive said elsewhere that anyone who put serious time and effort into the 3 games should be able to get a good ending for Shepard.

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it dosent hurt having that option i will use it

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Absolutely. If they never intended Shepard to live they shouldn't have put so much time and focus on romances and all the numerous times you can talk about how we're going o sugive and what you plan to do with Shepards life after the wars over.

But variety is key. If people want to get an ending whee Shepard dies, then that's fine, but for those of us who were playing this for the rewards of a house on Rannoch, little blue babies or whatever Shep planned for a retirement, and was actually heavily foreshadowed, they should be able to get them.

The fact that the Ending is a complete joke with it's less than skittles colour variances, is one ofthe main reason so many of us are pissed off.

Modifié par Total Biscuit, 16 mars 2012 - 12:16 .


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 Of course I want to have happy ending, but and this point any new ending would do a lot good.


New endings, please Bioware?

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I'd prefer to have the option for a happy ending, I feel that after all that mess my Shepard has gone through she deserves to retire somewhere with Liara and their little blue babies. I don't want the happy ending to be guaranteed, though. By all means, let us work for it a bit, but don't take away the option.

Both ME1 and 2 had hopeful endings, or at least the option, so why not ME3?

Modifié par lament.ballad, 16 mars 2012 - 12:40 .


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@ CerberusMolecularNetwork. Those are the endings I want! So that what I did through the games mattered. On my main Shepard I played paragon all the way, so I feel that I deserve a good ending that shows that. The best endings should be hard to get, but please make it possible. I havent touched the game(s) since i finished ME3. I can't get myself to play it again when I know how it all ends...

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D4rkSektor wrote...

I too want a happy ending. One where everyone survives, where Shepard reunites with his crew and he can live in peace with his LI. One where the mass relays and synthetic life aren't destroyed, but the Reapers are.

Yeah, it's cliched, but I don't care. It's better than the "endings" that are currently being used. Not only do they ignore your choices, screw over the galaxy, and not make sense in the slightest, but Shepard could potentially never see his crew/LI again. WTF is that ****?

It's especially bad when you remember what your LI (or maybe just Tali) tells you before you go on the final mission. "I want more time." :crying:


Kaidan (romcanced from ME1) said "I can't lose you again".....And the voice acting from both actors was superb.....And then he stepped out of the Normandy looking smug Image IPB

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nomoredruggs wrote...

D4rkSektor wrote...

I too want a happy ending. One where everyone survives, where Shepard reunites with his crew and he can live in peace with his LI. One where the mass relays and synthetic life aren't destroyed, but the Reapers are.

Yeah, it's cliched, but I don't care. It's better than the "endings" that are currently being used. Not only do they ignore your choices, screw over the galaxy, and not make sense in the slightest, but Shepard could potentially never see his crew/LI again. WTF is that ****?

It's especially bad when you remember what your LI (or maybe just Tali) tells you before you go on the final mission. "I want more time." :crying:


Kaidan (romcanced from ME1) said "I can't lose you again".....And the voice acting from both actors was superb.....And then he stepped out of the Normandy looking smug Image IPB

Well, Kaidan is not the only one. Liara asks Shepard to promise that "He/She will always come back" And what happens in ME3 ? LOL... All this talk about little blue children and we don't even get confirmation about it.

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Dridengx wrote...

You do realize, you get your money's worth in one playthrough. Everyone keeps saying how hard it will be to continue playing knowing 'nothing matters' And? there is plenty of films like Six Sense, The Others, The Orphan, and many others because of knowing the ending it makes it harder to watch again. How is this any different?


First of all they are different because they are not games like mass effect.
Secondly their ending was hardly considered inappropriate by those who had immensely enjoyed these stories up until the end.

In essence, You have less to fight for and less motivation to play a second play-through if you are motivated by anything besides ending the reaper threat or saving earth from being burned to a crisp. Future with LI and friends rebuilding, peace between factions etc.

I would hate if there only was a happy ending, and even more so if it was painted with rainbow colors. We swedes generally seem to hate that as much as we despise what we often call "American sentimentally" in movies and games. But a happy ending involving rebuilding in the rubble and ruins of Earth and a devastated but united galaxy with your friends LI and allies would be very appropriate if it was one of many possible endings.

Modifié par Subject M, 16 mars 2012 - 02:38 .