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I support this, it doesn't have to be all of the endings but i at least want it as an option. The ending was way too depressing. I at least want some kind of epilogue with my shep + LI + crew on a beach or something, lol. Other than that, they can have all the space magic and god children they want.

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I'm down for the happy ending.

I want my little blue kids with LI. I want to see what happens to the Krogans who are now cured of the Genophage. I want to see the house that Tali built, and maybe her real face, not some fail photoshopping attempt.

The alternatives would be carved from your choices. Say, if you didn't get enough EMS, squadmates would start dying, or maybe Admiral Hackett would go down with his ship trying to save the Crucible. An ending where the galaxy loses the fight would be a good one, and would vamp up replay appeal in an unprecedented way.

A happy ending, a sad ending, a catastrophic ending. It has to lean towards the negative because you're fighting the Reapers. At best, I think they should swap Shepard dying for his/her love interest, which would add considerable amounts of depth to the idea of consequences and your choices on the rest of the galaxy.

Please, Bioware, please. Change it and make sure it makes sense.

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Different endings for different choices, none excluded. Happy ending and Reaper Victory ARE among those.

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Zhen-Lin wrote...

schulz100 wrote...

Yeah, I looked into that, and I think(I'm not certain here) that you completely misunderstood the result of the Synthesis option. The only thing that actually dies is Shepard. Sure, the Citadel blows up(along with the Relays) but the whole point of the Synthesis option was to turn existing life forms into beings who wouldn't be in danger of synthetic overthrow, cause they stradle the line between organic and synthetic, thus negating the purpose of the Reapers completely. The Relays explode while charged with the energy from the Crucible, energy that starts up a transformative process in organics(that's why Joker has glowing green eyes and green Tron-viens in the Synthesis ending, as he was caught in that green blastwave(also not that he was still alive)).
I must agree though that the ending was kind of bleak, as are the other two(though the rifle-pumping of the Destory Reapers optin certainly felt victorious), but I personally was satisfied with that as an ending, and was simply sharing my own thoughts on the matter.


No, I haven't misunderstood a thing. Why after everything Shepard has done, he would die? Why everything else get destroyed? (The shock wave of the destroied mass relay will destroy everything) The only people survived are the few people on the Normandy.

Also, the habitable planets are few in number even with mass relay and sci-fi search technology. But Nomandy somehow crashed into one with blind luck. How did it happen? I don't know, I am not scientist. But it is unlogical.

Botton-line, we want a happy ending.



Again, nothing else dies but Shepard. Note that Joker got caught in one of the relay explosions and ****ING LIVED THROUGH IT(and he got built-in cybernetic enhancements as a bonus) because the relay detonations in the Synthesis ending are meant to spread the energy from the Crucible that transforms organics. That green blastwave from the Citadel, notice how it ran over the entire planet Earth, and everything on it was perfectly fine. The same principle is applying to the relays. Shepard dies imparting his own part-organic-part-synthetic nature(remember the opening of ME2, where Shep dies and is revived by Cerberus through ultra-advanced surgeries and technology(plus the face cybernetics thing)(and that little star brat tells him he's kinda half-synthetic right to his face)) so that the Crucible to properly alter organics in the galaxy into a fusion of organic and synthetic, thus making the Reapers unnecessary.

I do agree that the ending is somewhat cruelly sad, and I certainly would not turn down the option of a happier one. I'm just saying I'm content with we have right now.

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 I think there needs to be an option for a happy ending because WE deserve it.

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schulz100 wrote...

Zhen-Lin wrote...

schulz100 wrote...

Yeah, I looked into that, and I think(I'm not certain here) that you completely misunderstood the result of the Synthesis option. The only thing that actually dies is Shepard. Sure, the Citadel blows up(along with the Relays) but the whole point of the Synthesis option was to turn existing life forms into beings who wouldn't be in danger of synthetic overthrow, cause they stradle the line between organic and synthetic, thus negating the purpose of the Reapers completely. The Relays explode while charged with the energy from the Crucible, energy that starts up a transformative process in organics(that's why Joker has glowing green eyes and green Tron-viens in the Synthesis ending, as he was caught in that green blastwave(also not that he was still alive)).
I must agree though that the ending was kind of bleak, as are the other two(though the rifle-pumping of the Destory Reapers optin certainly felt victorious), but I personally was satisfied with that as an ending, and was simply sharing my own thoughts on the matter.


No, I haven't misunderstood a thing. Why after everything Shepard has done, he would die? Why everything else get destroyed? (The shock wave of the destroied mass relay will destroy everything) The only people survived are the few people on the Normandy.

Also, the habitable planets are few in number even with mass relay and sci-fi search technology. But Nomandy somehow crashed into one with blind luck. How did it happen? I don't know, I am not scientist. But it is unlogical.

Botton-line, we want a happy ending.



Again, nothing else dies but Shepard. Note that Joker got caught in one of the relay explosions and ****ING LIVED THROUGH IT(and he got built-in cybernetic enhancements as a bonus) because the relay detonations in the Synthesis ending are meant to spread the energy from the Crucible that transforms organics. That green blastwave from the Citadel, notice how it ran over the entire planet Earth, and everything on it was perfectly fine. The same principle is applying to the relays. Shepard dies imparting his own part-organic-part-synthetic nature(remember the opening of ME2, where Shep dies and is revived by Cerberus through ultra-advanced surgeries and technology(plus the face cybernetics thing)(and that little star brat tells him he's kinda half-synthetic right to his face)) so that the Crucible to properly alter organics in the galaxy into a fusion of organic and synthetic, thus making the Reapers unnecessary.

I do agree that the ending is somewhat cruelly sad, and I certainly would not turn down the option of a happier one. I'm just saying I'm content with we have right now.


I don't think you have "Arrival" DCL. The explosion of the Mass Relay will destroy entire sol system, that is why Joker's normandy is running away from it. In the end, everybody die and the survivors on the normandy get a new begginning as a new civilisation.

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john_locke_bg wrote...

 I think there needs to be an option for a happy ending because WE deserve it.


Damn straight we are

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In need of lots of warm fuzzies in the ending after this.

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Samuel_Valkyrie

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Happy endings, yes, but also other endings. As in, a plurality of endings, not just the one we got.

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Saying I want a happy ending is a misnomer.
I think any ending is always going to be at least a little bit bitter, but is it so much to ask for Shepard to live and be reunited with their LI?

I think the bitter comes from the overall devastation the war brings, which is inevitable. No matter how well you prepared for the ending, there's going to be mass destruction.

On the flip side, the level of sweet should come from the hope of a better future, for both Shepard and his personal interests, and for the universe as a whole.

So, the ending should be bittersweet, but with varying degrees of both bitter and sweet. Because even if you make it out alive and you are with your love interest, you're still in a bad spot, and you're gonna have to rebuild somehow.

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Dridengx wrote...

You do realize, you get your money's worth in one playthrough. Everyone keeps saying how hard it will be to continue playing knowing 'nothing matters' And? there is plenty of films like Six Sense, The Others, The Orphan, and many others because of knowing the ending it makes it harder to watch again. How is this any different?


I've not seen the "Orphan", but the Sixth Sense and The Others did not end with an absurd set of plotholes. I find it difficult to watch Lost again because I now know that they didn't have answers when they introduced their mysteries. That would be a more appropriate metaphor. If people leave a movie going, "That was a cool twist that made sense," you won't find much complaining. If people leave the theater stunned at the poor ending build on a bunch of unnecessary plotholes and deus ex machina devices, there will be deserved complaining.

As far as replayability goes, it was absolutely a selling point of the game and the series.

What most people want, judging by the boards is:

A) An ending that is not full of plotholes
B) An ending that shows off the impact of your decisions from ME 1 through to ME 3.


A  happy ending isn't really part of the core desires.... but I really don't see why they shouldn't give one of those too. After all, in ME 2 you could save every single crew member if you were a completionist.

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I think there should be a happy ending where everyone that was alive in your crew before last (beam) scene survives. IT would require most war assets and 100% galaxy reading, and perhaps completing me1 and 2. Normal would have sacrifaces, most of normandy dies, maybe just LI survives. And there should be a bad - shepard must sacrifice himself in order to save the galaxy.

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I want people to be able to choose a happy ending (Shep lives and is reunited with crew/LI) if they want one, or stick with the current ones (or, hell, worse) if they don't.

I don't see how it hurts anyone to throw in a happy ending. If it doesn't fit what you think should happen, then don't choose it. Just let it be there for those of us who want one.

Modifié par GBGriffin, 19 mars 2012 - 08:05 .


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Of course there needs to be a happy ending. Doesn't need to be sunshine and daisies but something that shows Shepard, crew and LI still live after the ending and can enjoy a little peace.

Seriously what's the point in having all endings end with Shepard essentially committing suicide? How does that please anyone? I'm all for having a heroic sacrifice ending as long as there's a few happy endings as well.

I think there should be a happy ending where everyone that was alive in your crew before last (beam) scene survives. IT would require most war assets and 100% galaxy reading


Oh please no. BioWare already said you didn't need to play any multiplayer to get the best ending (they lied of course since there's no way to get the 8k total military strenght that you'd need when your readiness is at 50%) but don't push it even further and require 100% readiness, that's just plain wrong and will incite a lot more anger.

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Artking3

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Sure, give me a happy ending as a choice.

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rvgifford wrote...

zerobounds wrote...

I don't want a happy ending.

I just want an ending.


This. I know you guys want your happy ending, but the movement needs to be about these things:

http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/ 

I'm not against a so called happy ending, I just want a real ending that delivers on the promises and makes sense.


We are all a part of the movementm mate. You do not represent us. Although I agree with some of the points in that link. But still, you can't say that we need to be about what.

Modifié par Zhen-Lin, 19 mars 2012 - 09:15 .


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Zhen-Lin

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http://social.biowar...dex/10092791/42

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I support an option for happy ending.

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Lietuvis wrote...

I think there should be a happy ending where everyone that was alive in your crew before last (beam) scene survives. IT would require most war assets and 100% galaxy reading, and perhaps completing me1 and 2. Normal would have sacrifaces, most of normandy dies, maybe just LI survives. And there should be a bad - shepard must sacrifice himself in order to save the galaxy.

Some of us don't have all three games, and I don't see why a happier ending should be so difficult to obtain. The formula in ME 2 works pretty good.

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Yes, I would like a happy ending. As an OPTION.


There should be a happy ending, a horribly sad ending, and allt he shades of grey in-between. I believe that with enough EMS and the right choices, players SHOULD be able to reach a happy ending.

I know I'd try for that, anyway.

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Happy ending as an option yes, they way it should have been. 16 different endings reflecting your choices and the themes of the story in 16 different ways. From Happy to Bittersweet to Tragic to Sad to Reapers win.

I really getting tired of the whole Hipster/emo trend of nothing happy is good.... this was cool about 10 years ago now it just annoying.

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I want to be able to choose a happy ending if i want one. That is something i've always liked about these games that you can pretty much get the story you want, if you decide this or that in a certain way. That is what made the games worth playing again imo.

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Even though I don't feel obligated to get a happy ending, it would have been nice to have it as an option. Like with maximum amount of war assets and such.

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Call me a giant sap or an over-idealist, but I support this. As an option. Don't want a happy ending? Don't go down that path. Just don't feel as though my wanting the option of a happy ending (one that makes sense of course) means I want you to go without the option of a bittersweet ending. Heck, I'd even like the option to fail miserably and see how that works out. No need to rule anything out.

Basically I agree with GBGriffin here!

GBGriffin wrote...

I want people to be able to choose a happy ending (Shep lives and is reunited with crew/LI) if they want one, or stick with the current ones (or, hell, worse) if they don't.

I don't see how it hurts anyone to throw in a happy ending. If it doesn't fit what you think should happen, then don't choose it. Just let it be there for those of us who want one.


Modifié par evisneffo, 19 mars 2012 - 11:22 .


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I would not object to a happier ending. I mostly support something that resemblings an ending in the first place.