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[billida]

1- I want an ending, a real one
2- I want this ending to be MY ending, the result of what i've done throughout the trilogy.
3- And i'm perfectly ok if it is a happy rainbowy ending, ponies included.

[Aweus]

This thread makes me feel happy.

[FoxShadowblade]

I have ti say I want a happy ending for a few of my sheps. And as a post on the first page says: Turian babies. Do want. How?! Space magic.

And on the other hand I want to see my renegade badass 'anything to win' shep give his life to save the galaxy.

Multiple endings, multiple choices that are significantly different. How was it not a good idea to begin with?

[The Lightspeaker]

Honestly when I first started I was in the camp of "I just want a working ending, it doesn't have to be happy".

However the more I think about it the more I agree with what I seem to remember first hearing in Angry Joe's 10 worst parts about the ME3 ending video. To paraphrase (mainly because I'm pretty sure he swore and I'm in work right now so I don't want to risk checking): "Why the hell NOT have a happy ending?"

I don't care if people think its childish to want a happy ending. Or entitled. Or any of that garbage. Give me one good reason that a happy ending should not be at least an OPTION for this series. And don't say "its more adult" or "its more poignant" or anything like that because that is entirely irrelevant. And its irrelevant because this is an interactive work of fiction which the player is most definitely part of. Its not a thoughtful novel putting forth the author's views that we're merely digesting and taking in or a dramatic poem reflecting on the horrors of the world. Its a sci-fi epic that we have made our own because what has happened throughout has been our CHOICE and our decision and has reflected the actions that our respective Shepards have taken. It hasn't been a fixed plot and decisions have radically changed your path in it because you CHOSE that to happen.

I don't know about you, but I want MY Shepard's sci-fi epic story to end with a happy ending. Because I CHOOSE it to be that way. And to hell with the critics of that view point, because isn't that choice what Mass Effect has always been about?


I think this great author said it best:

"Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."

• "On Three Ways of Writing for Children" (1952)  - C. S. Lewis

Modifié par The Lightspeaker, 19 mars 2012 - 02:04 .

[Relwyn]

To quote AngryJoeShow on youtube:
"Yes, why the F not a happy ending?"

Though in honesty I want many different endings, depending wholly on your choices, your EMS and so on, y'know...what they had planned initially for the game 

Modifié par Relwyn, 19 mars 2012 - 11:46 .

[Edje Edgar]

I really wanted a happy ending.

Then I realised how wrong the current ones are. Now I just want an ending where Shephard isn't the galaxies most famous monster.

[Peranor]

Kilshrek wrote...

Me! Me!

I like happy endings. If I wanted bleak and sorrowful tales, I'd just turn on the news, y'know?

Video games are my escape, they're like my happy place. If my happy place turns into my unhappy place then where the hell do I go?

And so many people died in ME 3, just so Shepard could do what needed to be done. To have Shepard die with everyone else at the end, I can understand why there are those who appreciate that situation, but I don't get why there are people who don't understand why I would like a happy ending.

My thoughts exactly!
BW doesnt need to change the ending. Just add more of them. And one of them being a brighter one. If not for Shepard then at least for the rest of the galaxy and your companions

Modifié par anorling, 19 mars 2012 - 11:56 .

[Fiyenyaa]

Firstly, any ending of Mass Effect 3 wouldn't really be happy in an overall sense - worlds have been devastated, millions have died, and the galaxy as a whole has been shaken up beyond recognition.
However: to fit in with Mass Effect 2, a game where your final mission can be anything from "royal screw-up that barely succeeds and results in death of all involved" to "well-executed mission that succeeds in all it's objectives and takes no casualties whatsoever", Mass Effect 3 should have a wide variety of endings based on what you did in the game. If you went the extra mile and saved everyone you could, recruited everyone you could, and found every war asset available, then what on earth was the point if it barely factors in your ending? Why not go for the ME2-style sliding scale of effectiveness?
I think what people (including myself) are after is a personal happy ending *option*. We're not asking for "make everything magically fine in the end no matter what" - we're asking for a chance.

[Zhen-Lin]

Fiyenyaa wrote...

Firstly, any ending of Mass Effect 3 wouldn't really be happy in an overall sense - worlds have been devastated, millions have died, and the galaxy as a whole has been shaken up beyond recognition.
However: to fit in with Mass Effect 2, a game where your final mission can be anything from "royal screw-up that barely succeeds and results in death of all involved" to "well-executed mission that succeeds in all it's objectives and takes no casualties whatsoever", Mass Effect 3 should have a wide variety of endings based on what you did in the game. If you went the extra mile and saved everyone you could, recruited everyone you could, and found every war asset available, then what on earth was the point if it barely factors in your ending? Why not go for the ME2-style sliding scale of effectiveness?
I think what people (including myself) are after is a personal happy ending *option*. We're not asking for "make everything magically fine in the end no matter what" - we're asking for a chance.

Like I said earlier:
The minimum definition of the happy ending:
1: Earth saved
2: Shepard and his partner survived
3: EDI and Joker survived
4: Geth may or may not survived depend on the choice we make
5: The cycle may or may not breake for ever depend on the choice we make

[PayneUK]

I don't want Mass Effect 3 to be a happy ending, I want the option for it to be. Stay true to the franchise and incorporate my characters journey into how the trilogy resolves itself.

[Zzzlurp]

Given that Mass Effect was always about choice and the consequences of your choices, why shouldn't it have a happy ending if you try hard enough?
I totally support that.

[Listyx]

There can be other endings too, but I'm voting for happy one

[Valah79]

Yeah I do want a "happy" ending. Certainly don't mind if Shepard makes it and gets his/her well earned rest with the LI. But the galaxy will be ****ed one way or another, I mean they just had massive amounts of destruction and genocide perpetrated on several big populated worlds.

Like most people here though, I'd be happy with just an ending I can make sense of. But yes I vote for happy ending too

[Chris-1983]

I clearly support a happy ending. I worked my ass off to have with tali a house on rannoch and rebuild together our homeplanets. After all their hard work and suffering I think they deserve a happy ending.

Modifié par Chris-1983, 19 mars 2012 - 12:33 .

[Mad-Hamlet]

Quoting C.S. Lewis gives you a plus. No, not in my column, in any. Anyone says differently is mistaken.

That said.

I live real life, every day I have to deal with crap that I don't think many of you do- Oh, I'm not a cop or anything, nor do I work in medicine; I'm a teacher- in a country that is falling apart at the seams and the Government is starting to tell us what we can, or cannot teach.

And there's nothing I can do. This is 'adult'.

So excuse the hell out of me if, in my off hours, I don't care for some younger (Albeit talented) writers trying to teach me about 'Adults'. It's a well known fact that many gamers, not sure how much of a majority but a majority, are well past their twenties- I'd really like to see some storytellers acknowledge that. And acknowledge that it's okay to still want a little a light in our lives.

Note: I do not argue for only a happy ending, just the inclusion of that possibility. And Frak Penny Arcade for mocking that idea- right up the shaft, sideways.

Personally, I blame Joseph Cambell.

[Peranor]

Mad-Hamlet wrote...

Quoting C.S. Lewis gives you a plus. No, not in my column, in any. Anyone says differently is mistaken.

That said.

I live real life, every day I have to deal with crap that I don't think many of you do- Oh, I'm not a cop or anything, nor do I work in medicine; I'm a teacher- in a country that is falling apart at the seams and the Government is starting to tell us what we can, or cannot teach.

And there's nothing I can do. This is 'adult'.

So excuse the hell out of me if, in my off hours, I don't care for some younger (Albeit talented) writers trying to teach me about 'Adults'. It's a well known fact that many gamers, not sure how much of a majority but a majority, are well past their twenties- I'd really like to see some storytellers acknowledge that. And acknowledge that it's okay to still want a little a light in our lives.

Note: I do not argue for only a happy ending, just the inclusion of that possibility. And Frak Penny Arcade for mocking that idea- right up the shaft, sideways.

Personally, I blame Joseph Cambell.

Well said  I totally agree with you.

[Insomnia87]

Mad-Hamlet wrote...

Quoting C.S. Lewis gives you a plus. No, not in my column, in any. Anyone says differently is mistaken.

That said.

I live real life, every day I have to deal with crap that I don't think many of you do- Oh, I'm not a cop or anything, nor do I work in medicine; I'm a teacher- in a country that is falling apart at the seams and the Government is starting to tell us what we can, or cannot teach.

And there's nothing I can do. This is 'adult'.

So excuse the hell out of me if, in my off hours, I don't care for some younger (Albeit talented) writers trying to teach me about 'Adults'. It's a well known fact that many gamers, not sure how much of a majority but a majority, are well past their twenties- I'd really like to see some storytellers acknowledge that. And acknowledge that it's okay to still want a little a light in our lives.

Note: I do not argue for only a happy ending, just the inclusion of that possibility. And Frak Penny Arcade for mocking that idea- right up the shaft, sideways.

Personally, I blame Joseph Cambell.

First of all, THIS. Just because I'm an adult doesn't mean I don't want to be happy. Do you have to be okay with everyone dying and the world pretty much at its end to be considered an adult? When did that happen...??  <_< Some of my Sheps deserve a happy ending with her LI. They went through hell throughout the series and some of them even before that (colonist, sole survivor) they did everything in their power to save the galaxy when pretty much everyone else was doing nothing. If anyone deserves a happy ending, Shep does. Renegade (or very oldschool heroic Shep) maybe wouldn't go for it, but in my opinion it has to be an OPTION. Grimdark = adult is just so very WRONG.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

Remember there was an ending for the last game where you retured from a SUICIDE mission without losing a SINGLE PERSON!  There is no reason one of the endings can't be happy for this game.

Hold the line for as long as it takes people.

[Keatstwo]

Having an ending that makes sense is paramount, but there's absolutely no reason why there shouldn't be a range of endings including at least one happy ending, however unlikely and predictable it might be.

[shinobi602]

I support the option of a happy ending. Those who don't want it don't have to get it. Let people who earn it get it. We deserve that much at least.

[therookie2552]

Yes, Yes I do.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

shinobi602 wrote...

I support the option of a happy ending. Those who don't want it don't have to get it. Let people who earn it get it. We deserve that much at least.

well said.  People who don't like happy endings don't have to go for it.


Hold the line for as long as it takes people.

[BoneNinja]

I do want AN ending most of all, but I do absolutely believe that there should at least be a way to get the happy ending. If you can talk Krogan and Turians into an alliance AND negotiate peace between Geth and Quarians so everyone can go back and live on their homeworlds then I should at least get a marriage proposal from Kaidan!!! I want Kaidan babies! I want a snuggle scene on his parents deck in Vancouver. I want to be right and him to be wrong when he says "We know this is goodbye."

[Joykilledme]

We have the right 'based off what the other games have given us and Biowares promises we should have a choice of having a happy ending!