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Now, if the entire galaxy joins forces, I believe their dreadnoughts outnumber the reapers more than 4 to 1. Hell, probably even the Geth alone would. And as if that wasnt enough, I am certain Dreadnoughts are built faster than Reapers.


The Reapers vastly outgun everyone. A single shot of their main guns destroys a dreadnought. Also why in the damned hell should we be able to stop the Reapers when no race in millions of years has been able to and Thanix cannons are just not enough.

Reaper...they have huge freaking lazors that can destory a Dready in 3 shots.... it would take 3 dreadys with Thanix Cannons about 2 mins just to destroy one reaper


That's not true at all.. especially not based on any information we've been given in ME1, 2, or 3.

First off, Thanix Cannons ignore shields, second the Dreadnoughts fire TONS OF GUNS not just one or two. 

Second, we barely see any Dreadnoughts being used and when we do we never see what they're actually capable of.

We now have the Reapers gun basically, and the only reason no other race survived was because they popped out of the Citadel destroying the main fleet in a surprise attack and destroying their government in an instant, then they turned off every mass relay and isolated everyone and hunted them at their leisure.

This time the Conduit prevented that.

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On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.

i have not seen one score for ME3 go Below 8 good sir..


No one trust reviewers, so we ignore them.

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On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.


Because we all know that sales are a sure sign of quality, hence why all top 10 music is insanely elaborate works and not at all pop stuff that will be forgotten in half a year, right?

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Tirigon wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.


Because we all know that sales are a sure sign of quality, hence why all top 10 music is insanely elaborate works and not at all pop stuff that will be forgotten in half a year, right?


Badly constructed, cookie cutter pop music tends to get good reviews too :crying:.  Seriously, if you guys think game critics are hacks, don't even think about "popular music critics".  Ugh. 

I do think, in this case, it's ridiculous to say ME3 is an objectively bad game, though.  Maybe I was just really lucky (done one playthrough, working on a second), but it came off as one of the most polished games I've ever played.

Vasarkian wrote...

alikilar wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone
uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not
effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.

i have not seen one score for ME3 go Below 8 good sir..


No one trust reviewers, so we ignore them.


To be fair, the user reviews for this are blown insanely out of proportion, and very few of them make an attempt to judge the game past their initial reaction. 

Modifié par instantdeath999, 14 mars 2012 - 06:51 .


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instantdeath999 wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.


Because we all know that sales are a sure sign of quality, hence why all top 10 music is insanely elaborate works and not at all pop stuff that will be forgotten in half a year, right?


Badly constructed, cookie cutter pop music tends to get good reviews too :crying:.  Seriously, if you guys think game critics are hacks, don't even think about "popular music critics".  Ugh. 

I do think, in this case, it's ridiculous to say ME3 is an objectively bad game, though.  Maybe I was just really lucky (done one playthrough, working on a second), but it came off as one of the most polished games I've ever played.

Vasarkian wrote...

alikilar wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone
uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not
effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.

i have not seen one score for ME3 go Below 8 good sir..


No one trust reviewers, so we ignore them.


To be fair, the user reviews for this are blown insanely out of proportion, and very few of them make an attempt to judge the game past their initial reaction. 


I tend to ignore the user reviews that rate things 10 or 0 or 9 or 2 as well.

That being said... this game is broken, incomplete, assets don't matter, had game-breaking bugs that no QA could of let go honestly, and has an ending that is enabled by the lack of assets mattering that basically ruins everything.

Also, I have no idea what a Salarian ship looks like still.

Modifié par Vasarkian, 14 mars 2012 - 06:53 .


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BuffPhantoms wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.


You mean the 3-5 million shipped ?

Opening day US sales were under a million and less than VG's predictions of pre-orders. That's not insanely high, for a AAA title it's not even that great when put in perspective.

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Yeah, I could understand a 7/10 for a review that says they loved the game until the ending (most of them)... maybe even a 5/10, though I'd still argue that's putting too much weight into one area of the game.  But 1/10?  Come on.  I guess it will get Bioware's attention, which is probably the goal (to some people, at least).

BobSmith101 wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone
uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not
effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.


You mean the 3-5 million shipped ?

Opening
day US sales were under a million and less than VG's predictions of
pre-orders. That's not insanely high, for a AAA title it's not even that
great when put in perspective.


Hmm, I assumed
it had sold a ton, because I could not find the collecters edition
available for pre-order anywhere, even up to two weeks before the game
shipped.

Modifié par instantdeath999, 14 mars 2012 - 06:56 .


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Vasarkian wrote...

alikilar wrote...

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Now, if the entire galaxy joins forces, I believe their dreadnoughts outnumber the reapers more than 4 to 1. Hell, probably even the Geth alone would. And as if that wasnt enough, I am certain Dreadnoughts are built faster than Reapers.


The Reapers vastly outgun everyone. A single shot of their main guns destroys a dreadnought. Also why in the damned hell should we be able to stop the Reapers when no race in millions of years has been able to and Thanix cannons are just not enough.

Reaper...they have huge freaking lazors that can destory a Dready in 3 shots.... it would take 3 dreadys with Thanix Cannons about 2 mins just to destroy one reaper


That's not true at all.. especially not based on any information we've been given in ME1, 2, or 3.

First off, Thanix Cannons ignore shields, second the Dreadnoughts fire TONS OF GUNS not just one or two. 

Second, we barely see any Dreadnoughts being used and when we do we never see what they're actually capable of.

We now have the Reapers gun basically, and the only reason no other race survived was because they popped out of the Citadel destroying the main fleet in a surprise attack and destroying their government in an instant, then they turned off every mass relay and isolated everyone and hunted them at their leisure.

This time the Conduit prevented that.

Beginning of ME3 u see a reaper shoot down a Dready in 3 shots and in tht fleet battle at end of ME3 u see dreadys shooting thanix cannons at the reapers whiched looked like didnt nothing to them

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alikilar wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.

i have not seen one score for ME3 go Below 8 good sir..


I know, its a 94% and 93% averages from the 2 most reputable averaging sites. 

In other words, its doing amazingly well.

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Tirigon wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.


Because we all know that sales are a sure sign of quality, hence why all top 10 music is insanely elaborate works and not at all pop stuff that will be forgotten in half a year, right?

Because we all know you just completely skipped the 93% at gamerankings and went straigt to the sales portion of my post, right?

Derp.

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BuffPhantoms wrote...

alikilar wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.

i have not seen one score for ME3 go Below 8 good sir..


I know, its a 94% and 93% averages from the 2 most reputable averaging sites. 

In other words, its doing amazingly well.


Again, no review site is reputable because anyone being paid to review something is going to have biased views. That being said, people will still return the game just like they did with DA2, and the sales will crash. Shipped and Sold are very dif.

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[quote]instantdeath999 wrote...
Opening
day US sales were under a million and less than VG's predictions of
pre-orders. That's not insanely high, for a AAA title it's not even that
great when put in perspective. [/quote]

Hmm, I assumed
it had sold a ton, because I could not find the collecters edition
available for pre-order anywhere, even up to two weeks before the game
shipped.

[/quote]

Well it's all relative. FYI CE on Amazon £62.99 this morning new. Morrisons knocked £2 off so £35 there right now (that's just price wars and not wanting to be the place with stock left). I expect a similiar pattern to DA2 ,strong opening sales, then a sharp drop. Then another peak as the prices go down in a couple of weeks.

It will sell, and by Biowares standards it will probably sell well. But for a product intended to capture the GoW crowd. Not so much.

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Vasarkian wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

alikilar wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.

i have not seen one score for ME3 go Below 8 good sir..


I know, its a 94% and 93% averages from the 2 most reputable averaging sites. 

In other words, its doing amazingly well.


Again, no review site is reputable because anyone being paid to review something is going to have biased views. That being said, people will still return the game just like they did with DA2, and the sales will crash. Shipped and Sold are very dif.

DA2 didnt get very good reviwes from any of these reputable review sites thats why everyone turned them back in theres even a video on how these reviews have an impact on games sales.

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Overall the game is great i love it. It's just the ending that i didn't like; just like everyone else.

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[quote]BobSmith101 wrote...

[quote]instantdeath999 wrote...
Opening
day US sales were under a million and less than VG's predictions of
pre-orders. That's not insanely high, for a AAA title it's not even that
great when put in perspective. [/quote]

Hmm, I assumed
it had sold a ton, because I could not find the collecters edition
available for pre-order anywhere, even up to two weeks before the game
shipped.

[/quote]

Well it's all relative. FYI CE on Amazon £62.99 this morning new. Morrisons knocked £2 off so £35 there right now (that's just price wars and not wanting to be the place with stock left). I expect a similiar pattern to DA2 ,strong opening sales, then a sharp drop. Then another peak as the prices go down in a couple of weeks.

It will sell, and by Biowares standards it will probably sell well. But for a product intended to capture the GoW crowd. Not so much.

[/quote]
= 3.5 million were shipped and 1 million were sold

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BuffPhantoms wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.


Because we all know that sales are a sure sign of quality, hence why all top 10 music is insanely elaborate works and not at all pop stuff that will be forgotten in half a year, right?

Because we all know you just completely skipped the 93% at gamerankings and went straigt to the sales portion of my post, right?

Derp.




What use is 93% game rankings ? That's right NONE. Sales are what matters, I'm very sorry that ME3 is not doing as well as you thought it was , but thems the breaks.

By Bioware standards it will do well by AAA standards not so much.

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alikilar wrote...

Vasarkian wrote...

alikilar wrote...

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Now, if the entire galaxy joins forces, I believe their dreadnoughts outnumber the reapers more than 4 to 1. Hell, probably even the Geth alone would. And as if that wasnt enough, I am certain Dreadnoughts are built faster than Reapers.


The Reapers vastly outgun everyone. A single shot of their main guns destroys a dreadnought. Also why in the damned hell should we be able to stop the Reapers when no race in millions of years has been able to and Thanix cannons are just not enough.

Reaper...they have huge freaking lazors that can destory a Dready in 3 shots.... it would take 3 dreadys with Thanix Cannons about 2 mins just to destroy one reaper


That's not true at all.. especially not based on any information we've been given in ME1, 2, or 3.

First off, Thanix Cannons ignore shields, second the Dreadnoughts fire TONS OF GUNS not just one or two. 

Second, we barely see any Dreadnoughts being used and when we do we never see what they're actually capable of.

We now have the Reapers gun basically, and the only reason no other race survived was because they popped out of the Citadel destroying the main fleet in a surprise attack and destroying their government in an instant, then they turned off every mass relay and isolated everyone and hunted them at their leisure.

This time the Conduit prevented that.

Beginning of ME3 u see a reaper shoot down a Dready in 3 shots and in tht fleet battle at end of ME3 u see dreadys shooting thanix cannons at the reapers whiched looked like didnt nothing to them


No, that was a cruiser, BioWare confirmed that. The Dreadnought was the thing firing at it.

Dreadnoughts have a front that goes past the rest of the ship, Cruisers have a front that stops short of the rest of the ship. The only dreadnoughts we see are from the small cutscene right before we head off to the Cerberus base, those are the 4 entry signals attacking the base.

The entirety of the fleet scene seems to indicate everything was a cruiser, and this makes sense since it completely ignores all the assets we built.

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To be fair, 1 million in a week isn't a bad turnout. It's not Call of Duty, but it's not a financial failure.

Also, when you guys say the game is broken... what bugs are you running into? The closest thing to a bug I've run into after 1 1/2 playthroughs is the quest log starting in the middle when I start it up (they seriously could not have intended that...).

The multiplayer is a bit buggy, but not significantly so IMO.

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Again, no review site is reputable because anyone being paid to review something is going to have biased views. That being said, people will still return the game just like they did with DA2, and the sales will crash. Shipped and Sold are very dif.


They payed off 60 review sites...wtf am I reading....

BSN...srsly?

What use is 93% game rankings ? That's right NONE. Sales are what matters, I'm very sorry that ME3 is not doing as well as you thought it was , but thems the breaks. 


The sales are great atm...what? 

Modifié par BuffPhantoms, 14 mars 2012 - 07:08 .


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BuffPhantoms wrote...

alikilar wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

On Metacritic ME3 has a score of 3.6/10... just for comparison fallout3 has 7.8/10... gg bioware

ME3 has a 94% at Metacritic atm, and 93% at the more accurate Gamerankings.com

Noone uses the user reviews at MC< they were troll bombed. They do not effect sales, most people know about the troll bombing.

The sales are insanely high fyi.

i have not seen one score for ME3 go Below 8 good sir..


I know, its a 94% and 93% averages from the 2 most reputable averaging sites. 

In other words, its doing amazingly well.


ahahah what a bunch of trolls :D

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instantdeath999 wrote...

To be fair, 1 million in a week isn't a bad turnout. It's not Call of Duty, but it's not a financial failure.

Also, when you guys say the game is broken... what bugs are you running into? The closest thing to a bug I've run into after 1 1/2 playthroughs is the quest log starting in the middle when I start it up (they seriously could not have intended that...).

The multiplayer is a bit buggy, but not significantly so IMO.


It's not bad exactly but when you look at the sort of crap EA went through to market the thing it's not exactly great either.
Just a guess but it likely cost far more $$ to make than CoD.

I did get a doozy of a bug arrival at Citadel, screen goes black when using the lift and can't leave. It's a common bug but the timing made it a lot worse. Bugs are random so it's all pot luck.

Rental places are getting savy now and not giving out online passes in the box. I fell through the floor in the demo hope they fixed that one Posted Image

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ahahah what a bunch of trolls :D


http://www.gameranki...ct-3/index.html

I'm trolling?

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Well you're sidetracking this topic that's for sure.

In any case, if 1/3 of your shipped copies are purchased that is a horrible margin.

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Vasarkian wrote...

alikilar wrote...

Vasarkian wrote...

alikilar wrote...

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Now, if the entire galaxy joins forces, I believe their dreadnoughts outnumber the reapers more than 4 to 1. Hell, probably even the Geth alone would. And as if that wasnt enough, I am certain Dreadnoughts are built faster than Reapers.


The Reapers vastly outgun everyone. A single shot of their main guns destroys a dreadnought. Also why in the damned hell should we be able to stop the Reapers when no race in millions of years has been able to and Thanix cannons are just not enough.

Reaper...they have huge freaking lazors that can destory a Dready in 3 shots.... it would take 3 dreadys with Thanix Cannons about 2 mins just to destroy one reaper


That's not true at all.. especially not based on any information we've been given in ME1, 2, or 3.

First off, Thanix Cannons ignore shields, second the Dreadnoughts fire TONS OF GUNS not just one or two. 

Second, we barely see any Dreadnoughts being used and when we do we never see what they're actually capable of.

We now have the Reapers gun basically, and the only reason no other race survived was because they popped out of the Citadel destroying the main fleet in a surprise attack and destroying their government in an instant, then they turned off every mass relay and isolated everyone and hunted them at their leisure.

This time the Conduit prevented that.

Beginning of ME3 u see a reaper shoot down a Dready in 3 shots and in tht fleet battle at end of ME3 u see dreadys shooting thanix cannons at the reapers whiched looked like didnt nothing to them


No, that was a cruiser, BioWare confirmed that. The Dreadnought was the thing firing at it.

Dreadnoughts have a front that goes past the rest of the ship, Cruisers have a front that stops short of the rest of the ship. The only dreadnoughts we see are from the small cutscene right before we head off to the Cerberus base, those are the 4 entry signals attacking the base.

The entirety of the fleet scene seems to indicate everything was a cruiser, and this makes sense since it completely ignores all the assets we built.

didnt anderson say it was a dready before it exploded?

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It's a good game (may I say one of the best games I have played in a while) in terms of gameplay, storyline and everything - - except for the ending which feels lacking, rushed and is generally illogical.