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Casey Hudson lies to the fans
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chaos_Shadow15
, mars 14 2012 02:02
#26
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:25
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There's more to the ending than how you change the galaxy. There's what happens to Anderson, to TIM, to the krogan, salarians, the other characters. There's a lot of different endings. :)
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#27
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:26
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It's us who buy their products and it will be us who will stop buying their products! Lying to the fans won't be tolerated!
#28
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:28
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NiZe55 wrote...
EA/Bioware is suddenly valueing artictic viewpoints more then money much to my surprise
I love the hypocracy behind the "it's art!" attitude. Last I checked, artists don't retroactively add extras to their work for small payments and finish their art by painting "please buy more stuff from me" across the finished product.
#29
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:29
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I have no problem with this statement
"I didn't want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people - debating what the endings mean and what's going to happen next, and what situation are the characters left in," Hudson said
But for the fact, and I use the word fact, the ending isn't polarizing because it was good or thought provoking. The ending was polarizing because thats the lens effect they used to create the three 'different' videos.
Seriously, if there was a way to end ME3 poorly, this was it.
"I didn't want the game to be forgettable, and even right down to the sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people - debating what the endings mean and what's going to happen next, and what situation are the characters left in," Hudson said
But for the fact, and I use the word fact, the ending isn't polarizing because it was good or thought provoking. The ending was polarizing because thats the lens effect they used to create the three 'different' videos.
Seriously, if there was a way to end ME3 poorly, this was it.
#30
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:30
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Aye... ME2 released with a lot of free DLC including Zaeed. Now we have a day 1 DLC only free for those who bought the CE (including me since I bought an CE).
Sad things happening with BioWare...
Sad things happening with BioWare...
#32
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:32
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I remember that quote, and it is the first thing that came to mind when I learned of the ending.
#33
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:33
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One word for you Casey.....LIAR!!!!!!!!
#34
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:34
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From the video and magazine interviews I've seen, Casey Hudson is a pretty smart, and shrewd, guy. In January, he would have certainly known how the game's current ending(s) played out because it was only a couple of weeks from going gold. Being a smart guy, he would likely not have outright lied about something guaranteed to alienate a significant portion of the fan base. I'm not ready to call him a liar, or even disingenuous. The coming weeks might very well prove me wrong, but I'll be surprised if so.
Of course, I'm not an extremely angry fan demanding anything different. I'd like to see this "closure" that they touted, but I still think it's a great game - they have all been great games. The ending is meh, but it doesn't detract (IMO) from the overall value of the series.
Of course, I'm not an extremely angry fan demanding anything different. I'd like to see this "closure" that they touted, but I still think it's a great game - they have all been great games. The ending is meh, but it doesn't detract (IMO) from the overall value of the series.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:37
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I remember the ending to Command & Conquer 4 where EA tried to do the same thing and felt a harsh backlash after it but to do the same thing again do they never learn,
#36
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:38
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One thing is for sure... Casey Hudson... you got some 'splainin to do!!!
#37
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:40
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"I just realized, that those are the component HD video cables' colours.
"I guess he came up with the idea when setting up his new TV"
Comedy gold.
Thread title seems harsh.
"I guess he came up with the idea when setting up his new TV"
Comedy gold.
Thread title seems harsh.
#38
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:44
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Allright to be honest yes the endings SUCKED big time.... but that does not mean that the devs lied! We dont know if they are working with an "ending dlc" or waht they have planned. We should at least hold on and wait for a while until we start to call the devs liars and cheats
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:46
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I think 'lie' is to harsh. The latest misinformation? Sure. But I think they went into it wanting a the high browed bitter-sweat highly varied ending he/they were talking about.
Ultimately? They ran out of time, and they could not fulfill that vision. they failed to close the deal.
They went for a truncated ending, trying to pull off an Inception mind bend or something-and utterly failed in the attempt.
It is patently false in hindsight, but to say it was a lie at the time is false.
The only lie? Is the one they are telling themselves right now. That the 'creative interpretation' truncated ending is some how not disjointed from the rest of the series. And I'm being kind here.
Ultimately? They ran out of time, and they could not fulfill that vision. they failed to close the deal.
They went for a truncated ending, trying to pull off an Inception mind bend or something-and utterly failed in the attempt.
It is patently false in hindsight, but to say it was a lie at the time is false.
The only lie? Is the one they are telling themselves right now. That the 'creative interpretation' truncated ending is some how not disjointed from the rest of the series. And I'm being kind here.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:47
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RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...
There's more to the ending than how you change the galaxy. There's what happens to Anderson, to TIM, to the krogan, salarians, the other characters. There's a lot of different endings.
Exactly what happend to the Salarians, Krogans etc.? We see Anderson, TIM, Joker and 2 squadmates yes. Other than that you know as much as I do about what happened to the races that helped fight on Earth and I know nothing. With out relays how the hell will the Quarians get home? After finally getting Rannoc back and helping Shepard they are screwed out of a home.
#41
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:48
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blah64 wrote...
Nah, he didn't lie. It's not A,B,C. It's R,B,G!!!
i swear those are the colour varients in my camera haha
#42
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:50
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This is disgusting, the truth is the exact opposite of what he said.
#44
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:55
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While I'm all for wanting some complete closure, I'm almost at the stage where if they do tell us "these weren't the real endings" or "we have a dlc with the closure to this series" I'm not going to be pleased. Yes, I know, can't please some. But I do have a reason for feeling this way that is logical to me. (To me, doesn't mean it has to be logical to you). When I purchased this game, I expected the ending of the game to be there. Silly me for expecting the end of a trilogy to actually have an end. I also won't be laughing if I hear, "Yeah we told you 16 different endings, but what we didn't say was that they'd all be on the disc."
#45
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 02:57
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Unender wrote...
he ruined his reputation with the lies he told us about ME3 and the endings.
The company's reputation is going to have some major dents by the end of this too even if they planned all this. Stuff like this could have sunk a smaller company.
#46
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 03:00
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streamlock wrote...
I think 'lie' is to harsh. The latest misinformation? Sure. But I think they went into it wanting a the high browed bitter-sweat highly varied ending he/they were talking about.
Ultimately? They ran out of time, and they could not fulfill that vision. they failed to close the deal.
They went for a truncated ending, trying to pull off an Inception mind bend or something-and utterly failed in the attempt.
It is patently false in hindsight, but to say it was a lie at the time is false.
The only lie? Is the one they are telling themselves right now. That the 'creative interpretation' truncated ending is some how not disjointed from the rest of the series. And I'm being kind here.
Really?
#47
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 03:08
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He did not lie, the outcomes are so vastly different that you cannot build another game out of the ending. And regarding him saying that you do not have ending A. B or C it is right for me because I would have felt different in the ending if I would not have cured the genophage etc.
The ending is for me not just the ending cutscene, Mass Effect 3 has for me every time an ending when I finish a personal or galactic storyline.
The ending is for me not just the ending cutscene, Mass Effect 3 has for me every time an ending when I finish a personal or galactic storyline.
#48
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 03:11
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jb1983 wrote...
He's right, it's not between A,B, and C. Instead, you follow paths A, B, and C and end up with pizza, unicorn, and Chuck Testa.
Actually it's more like you follow paths A, B, and C, and Chuck Testa is at the end of each one.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 03:33
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"We want to do more stuff with Mass Effect, of course, and I'm sure we will," he added later. "But we're not really thinking about that right now. We want to make sure we give people the best ending to Mass Effect 3 that we can."
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#50
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 11:29
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streamlock wrote...
I think 'lie' is to harsh. The latest misinformation? Sure. But I think they went into it wanting a the high browed bitter-sweat highly varied ending he/they were talking about.
Ultimately? They ran out of time, and they could not fulfill that vision. they failed to close the deal.
Yeah, except the interview took place two months ago. If you know anything about game development at all, you'd know that the vision for the game would have been complete by then and possibly already in certification at Microsoft and Sony.
SCJ90 wrote...
Allright to be honest yes the endings
SUCKED big time.... but that does not mean that the devs lied! We dont
know if they are working with an "ending dlc" or waht they have planned.
We should at least hold on and wait for a while until we start to call
the devs liars and cheats
I can't tell what's worse, the fact that the ending is as bad as it is, or the fact that the fans are actually okay with Bioware shipping an incomplete game and 'patching' it later with DLC. Prevention is better than a cure, folks.
