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#101
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This is what they should have been to begin with.

lol @ random internet people out doing Bioware at their own job.

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Arcian wrote...

shengar wrote...

So in all of your ending, will Shepard dead in the end anyway? I prefer Shepard dead actually. That makes him much more heroic that letting him alive, chill out, and have children.

Shepard dies in all endings except for the Golden Ending if he chose Destroy and passed all of the Para/Rene options in the Control Room and at the Crucible Control. If he Chose control, he dies in the Golden Ending as well. In the Good Ending, if Destroy was chosen, he lives long enough to escape the Citadel, but bleeds out back on Earth with Anderson (if Anderson survived). Anderson cannot survive outside of the Golden Ending.

The Golden Ending requires 7000+ EMS, and I was thinking the max possible EMS (having done absolutely EVERYTHING in all three games) is something like 7020 to 7050.

Of course PS3 players would get a bonus to their EMS thanks to Mass Effect 1 not being available on their platform.


Well, thank God in Co-Op cause I'm not collecting everything from ME1.:P

Though I would like if Shepard could live in Control ending, but not in human( or organic in general) form.

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Brahlis wrote...

This is what they should have been to begin with.

lol @ random internet people out doing Bioware at their own job.

Yeah, I know, it's pathetic. I've been writing stories for my own entertainment for 13 years, but I'm not published and I would definitely not call myself a professional writer by any stretch of the imagination. Still, I spent 45 minutes - yes, less than an hour - to come up with an ending that, as proven in this thread, the fans consider vastly superior to what the lead writer of the franchise came up with and included in the final game.

I mean, that's just wrong! He's a professional lead writer with what I presume and hope are many, many years of experience in the field, while I'm just a fan who's been writing random stories in my spare time for over half of my life.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Though I would like if Shepard could live in Control ending, but not in human( or organic in general) form.

Well he TECHNICALLY lives on in the Reaper consciousness, but his body? Gone.

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Arcian wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Though I would like if Shepard could live in Control ending, but not in human( or organic in general) form.

Well he TECHNICALLY lives on in the Reaper consciousness, but his body? Gone.


Well, that's what I went for.

Though, he is still himself. Only now a Reaper.







Don't ****** off that Reaper.:devil:

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Arcian wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

This is what they should have been to begin with.

lol @ random internet people out doing Bioware at their own job.

Yeah, I know, it's pathetic. I've been writing stories for my own entertainment for 13 years, but I'm not published and I would definitely not call myself a professional writer by any stretch of the imagination. Still, I spent 45 minutes - yes, less than an hour - to come up with an ending that, as proven in this thread, the fans consider vastly superior to what the lead writer of the franchise came up with and included in the final game.

I mean, that's just wrong! He's a professional lead writer with what I presume and hope are many, many years of experience in the field, while I'm just a fan who's been writing random stories in my spare time for over half of my life.

The fans nothing!  Your ending IS superior... by any standard.

Modifié par General User, 16 mars 2012 - 04:40 .


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Arcian wrote...

Brahlis wrote...

This is what they should have been to begin with.

lol @ random internet people out doing Bioware at their own job.

Yeah, I know, it's pathetic. I've been writing stories for my own entertainment for 13 years, but I'm not published and I would definitely not call myself a professional writer by any stretch of the imagination. Still, I spent 45 minutes - yes, less than an hour - to come up with an ending that, as proven in this thread, the fans consider vastly superior to what the lead writer of the franchise came up with and included in the final game.

I mean, that's just wrong! He's a professional lead writer with what I presume and hope are many, many years of experience in the field, while I'm just a fan who's been writing random stories in my spare time for over half of my life.


The answer is simple: Because your doing it for fun, while he is, like you mentioned, is a proffessional. He must do it in 'proffessional' way, consulting his story first to the board meeting. maybe sometimes he have great story but get rejected because it wouldn't sold enough or not good enough to spawn DLCs.

Well, if this is true, I pity him.

Mesina2 wrote...

Well, that's what I went for.

Though, he is still himself. Only now a Reaper.


Don't ****** off that Reaper.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]



 

that sounds bad enough:huh:

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^Mac's notes from the Final Hours thing suggests they were all his "own" ideas (i.e stolen from Deus Ex) and that they passed through every layer of quality control (which doesn't control anything, really) and that he believed the "Speculation from everyone" would be a peaceful event.

Part of me wants to know what went through his mind when he thought making these endings was a good idea, but the other part of me is afraid to find out.

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Now THAT is a proper ending.

*Applauds*

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Arcian wrote...

So, as many of you know, I've been a staunch defender of the endings since release. This is true. I greatly enjoy the concepts of the endings (Destroy/Control/Synthesis) and Shepard unavoidably dying, but NOT the execution, which I too think is horrible and a sharp decline in the game's quality. Even so, I am just one fan, and it's obvious the great majority of you don't share my sentiment concerning the Synthesis and Shepard dying.




I understand the common belief is that in epics like these the hero has to die, but the phrase 'the hero has to' anything in a game like Mass Effect that's built around choice and you pickin' your own destiny, it goes against everything that Mass Effect is all about."




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TcomJ wrote...

Arcian wrote...

So, as many of you know, I've been a staunch defender of the endings since release. This is true. I greatly enjoy the concepts of the endings (Destroy/Control/Synthesis) and Shepard unavoidably dying, but NOT the execution, which I too think is horrible and a sharp decline in the game's quality. Even so, I am just one fan, and it's obvious the great majority of you don't share my sentiment concerning the Synthesis and Shepard dying.



I understand the common belief is that in epics like these the hero has to die, but the phrase 'the hero has to' anything in a game like Mass Effect that's built around choice and you pickin' your own destiny, it goes against everything that Mass Effect is all about."

Yes, which is why I included an ending where Shepard lives. It's going to be really hard to achieve so it doesn't cheapen it, but it's there.

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I liked Mesina2's idea about having a DA:O style "talk to your squaddies one last time before the epilogue slides and credits roll" feature.

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<3 I'd love for that to happen. I can only hope BW steals/uses this! ;__;

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If only it were so. If only.

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GODDAMIT, WHY ISN'T THIS THE REAL ENDING!?

Seriously, bravo! You manage to outdo the "big guy" writers in about an hour. I would have loved to have seen this ending! I was even expecting one like this!

So...if Bioware never makes a 'fix' DLC, would you mind lending your ending idea to a very dedicated modder? Lol

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You get thumbs up from me! :)

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Wow, 1000X better than what we got. This makes sense!

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Good job! You get it. I wouldn't necessarily do it the same way, but I would find this satisfying. I think Shepard dying is inevitable unless you really change more of the story along the way. It's building to it.

And there should be some kind of high concept at the end. Absolutely, but it needs to be intertwined with the characters and relationships, not divorced from them.

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Props, that's a good ending.

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BIGODS! New canon, who needs PR obfuscation?

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Wow this is an amazing read. I would accept an ending like this, it just fits. Especially about Harbinger!

Also cudos to the WH40k Javik joke at the bottom.

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Butane9000 wrote...

Also cudos to the WH40k Javik joke at the bottom.

You know it.

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You, sir, should immediately be hired by BioWare and deserve a raise on your first work day.

I believe you stated it somewhere already but this seems everyone CAN get the best ending possible without playing multiplayer (since it needs to be changed) and there are endings where the relays are not destroyed. Brilliant.

For some added satisfaction and closure maybe add a final scene where Shepard recovers from his injuries in hospital and is visited by your (current and former) crewmembers? I don't know, I'm just rambling here. The endings you described are great on their own already =]

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^Yes, of course a surviving Shepard will get a "Team reunites" epilogue.

Oh and yes, getting the best ending and 7000+ EMS will be possible without multiplayer. It'll be b!tchingly, hair-tearingly hard, but it will be totally worth it.

I would also rehaul the Readiness system from the percentage system to a system where MP progress actually adds directly to the EMS. A level 20 promoted character could be worth 25-50 EMS, as an example.

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Arcian, might I suggest that you post a copy of this on the stickied "We're Listening (honestly)" and/or "Suggested Changes" thread(s). I put a link up there, but Bioware HAS to read this before they make any decisions.

Modifié par General User, 17 mars 2012 - 02:32 .