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[superjeno]

Hey everyone, since yesterday I've been having this problem:
It's not driver related, it's not spyware, it's not registry... I'm not a noob on these matters and wouldn't ask for help unless I really couldn't figure it out... I also exceed the reccomended requirements with my current system. I've only had this problem since yesterday and didn't install any new software or anything. ME3 is also the only game i have this particular problem on. The only thing I can see is that the origin update did something to the visuals but in that case I don't quite get why I'm the only one with this problem. Any help is greatly appreciated...
edit: also, it's not an overheating problem and my gpu works fine :/ ...

Modifié par superjeno, 14 mars 2012 - 04:52 .

[superjeno]

bump

[superjeno]

bump again?

[superjeno]

really sorry, but have to bump again (why don't i get response?)

[superjeno]

bump again... seriously, I'm getting really annoyed that no one wants to help me...

[Delusion83]

Seriously?

You provide no details whatsoever on your system/ driver/ OS constellation. 

I guess we'll just have to take your word for it (and assume you know it all), that it's not that,... but what do you expect does that leave? <_<

You can't expect help from anyone if you put that little effort into this. Bumping a useless topic doesn't count, also I'd say it's kinda undesired, like on most forums in general and won't help your "cause" either.

superjeno wrote...

bump again... seriously, I'm getting really annoyed that no one wants to help me...

With that kind of attitude and moreover, lvl. of ignorance,... some work on your self-reflection capacity might be advisable. Really the only thing I can make out of your not-so-super posts in here, sry.

Modifié par Delusion83, 15 mars 2012 - 11:16 .

[JediDZ]

Write please the characteristics of the computer.
There can be I can help.

Modifié par JediDZ, 15 mars 2012 - 11:25 .

[superjeno]

Oh... I'm sorry, I thought I had made everything clear :/ I didn't mean to come out as a smartass, though in retrospect I do come out that way... alright let's go again
my system:
OS: WIndows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Model: HP Envy 17 notebook pc
Processor: i7-2630QM @2.00ghz.
memory: 8gb DDR3 RAM.
DirectX, VC as well, updated, drivers updated as far as I can, it's the newest driver set HP support can give me. latest AMD drivers don't work on this sandybridge setup. I did a few checks on my internal temp while in full operation and it did hit 90°C but it has always done that. I am even using an external cooler pad. I know many people with the same laptop though and none are experiencing the same problem.
The reason why I didn't include this information is that it worked perfectly fine a few days ago... If there is anything else you require, plase state so, thanks!

[DABhand]

Btw as I said in another thread Screen Tearing etc can be the result of the hardware failing on the GPU, or from overclocking.

[Balrogen4]

This is just a wild guess but it looks like leaves that are misplaced, have you been messing around with coalesced or save editor?, if not then the game files might be corrupt and you'll have to do a repair/reinstall.

[JediDZ]

superjeno wrote...

Oh... I'm sorry, I thought I had made everything clear :/ I didn't mean to come out as a smartass, though in retrospect I do come out that way... alright let's go again
my system:
OS: WIndows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Model: HP Envy 17 notebook pc
Processor: i7-2630QM @2.00ghz.
memory: 8gb DDR3 RAM.
DirectX, VC as well, updated, drivers updated as far as I can, it's the newest driver set HP support can give me. latest AMD drivers don't work on this sandybridge setup. I did a few checks on my internal temp while in full operation and it did hit 90°C but it has always done that. I am even using an external cooler pad. I know many people with the same laptop though and none are experiencing the same problem.
The reason why I didn't include this information is that it worked perfectly fine a few days ago... If there is anything else you require, plase state so, thanks!

Mm... Really envy of laptops.
The serious car at you
Try to reinstall game indeed.
More exit I do not see, time at you is established all the last of the driver.

Well still suspicions in a patch which incorrectly works with your system of drivers.

As you also spoke that earlier at you all was as it should be.

Usually I use search on the Internet, I write the model of the computer and what problems can be. (Usually helps)

Try to reinstall once again drivers, sometimes it helps.
I hope though than that has helped you.

[superjeno]

Thanks for your help, everyone, I will try a reinstall... unfortunately, this requires me to redownload it... since my optical drive is broken <.< ... I am quite positive my graphics card still works, since I can run skyrim fine. I never messed with any game files either :/ Also I didn't overclock nor did my gpu overheat...

Modifié par superjeno, 15 mars 2012 - 04:20 .

[Delusion83]

90°C, although nowadays cards usually can sustain higher temps much better, is quite hot, especially on a Laptop. It could very well be your card/ chip took some damage.

You could give these modded newer drivers a try however (seems 64 bit Windows only): leshcat.blogspot.com

There are also other ways to make recent mobile drivers work on an unsupported Laptop model but the above might make it easier. Might be worth a try.

Modifié par Delusion83, 15 mars 2012 - 06:46 .

[superjeno]

I will give them a try... I have 64 bit. I'd be amazed if they would work, but very grateful if they would...  Actually, upon investigation, this might have a very good chance of working... it will take an hour to download though...
Yeah... well my desktop survived on 120°C and still worked fine xD ... it did thermal shutdown at 128° though... There are a couple hundred people in my school with the same laptop and some exceed these temps by far, people who don't have an external cooler... Don't get me wrong, I know you're trying to help, but I'm inclined to believe there is nothing wrong with my gpu :-) I will report back after i tried these drivers and reinstalled the game.

Modifié par superjeno, 15 mars 2012 - 07:05 .

[Delusion83]

Just saying those temps on a regular basis aren't exactly good, or save for a chip. Working for someone else is no indication you' re save.

At those kind of temps chips usually hit fail save mechanisms, underclock/ undervolt to reduce heat and risk of damage and in those cases of course also impact performance but still should not continued to be used on high heat lvls. Also heat like that is known to drastically shorten lifetime of other components say on a mainboard and such.

Check with HP if they have newer mainboard or GPU BIOS versions available (might have adjusted clock rates and or fan logic/ speeds). Otherwise try to manually force higher fan speeds if possible: almico.com/speedfan.php

Modifié par Delusion83, 15 mars 2012 - 07:43 .

[superjeno]

Yes, you are right =( but unfortunately I really can't do anything... the bios update that i did a few weeks back did definately help. I am using speedfan and at peak, the fans are on max, as are my external fans... I really don't know what else to do about this... It just has bad cooling :/
That aside, it WORKS =D The reinstall did nothing but the driver update seemed to have helped (I think so anyway, coz the game DID work on the intel chip (forgot to mention) but lagged a bit (surprisingly, not a lot...) and now it's running fine, though maybe still lagging a bit. The problem is now however, that I can't switch the graphics... But that is an other problem entirely =) I'm glad that that driver update worked! A big thanks for pointing me to it =D And again my appologies for appearing cocky and all knowing =)

Modifié par superjeno, 15 mars 2012 - 10:45 .

[superjeno]

update: The driver update caused a lot of troubles, if i booted in battery power, i got no image on screen, and I couldn't switch graphics processors. luckily i have an external screen here that i could use to do a system restore. The problem persists still. Any help is still appreciated...

[houldendub]

What GPU do you have? You haven't mentioned this?

What do other games look like? Screenshots? What's your frame rate like in game? Frame rates like in other games? GPU being pushed to it's max? (i.e. 99%)

If the laptop has no dedicated GPU, then most likely your laptop simply can't run the game properly. Mobile components can sometimes be significantly different than their desktop counterpart, if it's got that little "M" next to it's model number, be prepared for trouble.

Also please don't listen to other people regarding overclocking. Overclocking in a laptop is BAD NEWS and you'll likely end up breaking something. The components are built to withstand temperatures generated at clock speeds, and even these are generally higher than any desktop will ever produce, so they're already at the breaking point. Please don't overclock or the next post you'll be making is one saying that you've bricked the laptop

if i booted in battery power, i got no image on screen, and I couldn't switch graphics processors

Don't boot on battery power then. If you're gaming, play when plugged in, there have been many problems regarding GPUs switching, if you do a google search you will no doubt find something that should fix your problems. My advice however is not to play substantial games while on the move, **** will go down and you'll have like, an hour's battery anyway

Modifié par houldendub, 16 mars 2012 - 03:58 .

[superjeno]

If you would have read the conversation, you would have known ths, mate, alright i didnt't state it, but it's an AMD 6850M and it ran it fine before and not at maximum. GPU temp was actually fine at 75°. I'm telling you, it ran it fine =) offcourse I won't overclock it, it's already a thermal madness as it is
Alright, even after following everyone's tips (thanks!) The problem persisted. However, I circumvented this in a suprising way... I am now running ME3 on my integrated intel chipset. Yup. on full graphics. I don't quite understand how it's possible that it runs perfect on the crappy intel chip, but it does, so problem solved
Other games run impossibly slow on the intel, on the AMD they run mostly around 40 fps on near to full graphics.