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Spartas Husky

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Ok I got another question hopefully a moderator can answer this right up and be done with it :P

There are some powers that have two options "Squad bonuses or individual bonus"

Example Vegas Power

rank 6 has Squad Bonus "increase health and shield bonus 20%" Or Fortification "increase self shield and health bonus 40% and icnreasing melee 100%"

This has no problem. In the sta bars below I can see that they both raise the shield and health bonus bar respectively. So is a matter of Giving everyone or just him a bonus.

This talent is easy to understand since the stats bar below indicates everyone including him in the squad gets a bonus to health and shields.

However this is the only one I've seen that does it. Every single squad bonus. From Liara's Lower Biotic Cooldowns, EDI"s tech cooldowns, Garrus Squad bonuses. When you look at other caracters the bonus ONLY apply to squadmates and not the individual who has the talent.

I.E: With vega with squad bonus, EVERYONE gets and upgrade. But he is the only one. With Liara, My recharge time goes down with her squad bonus, but her cooldowns stay the same. With Garrus damage I get an increased damage output... but he doesn't. EDI gives me more punch on my tech powers but not her?

Is this a glitch? Does the power still apply they just dont show? Or what is going on.
because from every single squad power I have seen, they all are worded the same. But the only one that seems to affect the "owner" as much as the team is james. Everyone else who has a squad bonus talent, doesn't seem to be affected by his or her own talent, only the rest of the team.

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Spartas Husky

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nobody??? really

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lol 169 views and nobody got an answer?

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What's "Vegas Power"?...

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Spartas Husky

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James Vega Soldier:

Rank 6: Squad Bonus/Fortification

Squad Bonus

Increase squadmate health and shields by 20%.


Fortification

Increase health and shield bonuses by 40%.
Increase melee damage by 100%.


Maybe I wasn't clear enough if so I apologize.

His power actually does have an impact on himself and squadmates because his stats bar actually show change, increase of both. The 2nd option being more beneficial to him. But the 1st one also does increase 20% to him and everyone else.

My issue is that there is a glitch... For example EDI's power

Rank 6: Squad Bonus or Shield Recharge Edit

Squad Bonus

Increase squadmate tech power damage and duration by 10%.
Shield Recharge

Decrease shield-recharge delay by 20%.

The first option is no different that VEgas: Is a squad bonus that by all intent and purposes are to help everyone EDI included.

However when I select the first option "squad bonus" for EDI only squadmates get the bonus to their dmg and duration. Her own powers remain unchanged.

Why?

As a last but not least example Garrus Vakarian


Rank 6: Squad Bonus/Sniper Rifle Edit

Squad Bonus

Increase power damage of squadmates by 10%.


Sniper Rifle

Increase sniper rifle damage by 60%.

His first choice in power evolution, helps squadmates gain an increase power dmg output.
But his Overload, tech mine, and concussion shot remain completely unchanged by the evolution.


My question is... why is Vega's "squad bonus" the only bonus that applies to everyone else as well as himself? while everyone else's squad bonus only apply to squadmates instead of the wielder of it as well

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Zetrial

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They still apply the bonus, the easiest way to test is take say Liara. Her squad cooldown, it doesn't show on her bar but you take the squad bonus and then look at the abilities themselves. You will notice they have a shorter cooldown than previously.
Also you can always put the points in it, quickly check then hit undo if you are unhappy with the result.

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Spartas Husky

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I apologize I forgot to put Liara into it. James and Liara's Powers are the only ones that work. However if you watch her bar, it also includes into the process making her bar actually go beyond the maximum to 110%.

If you look at all others with "squad" bonuses. The bonuses DO apply to Sheperd and another squadmate but not the one whose evolution belongs to.

Example Garrus dmg, applies to me but not to him.
EDI's applies to me but not her.

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The + damage bonuses appear glitchy.
If I take Garrus's + power damage in the squad selection screen prior to a mission it will apply to him upping conc shot from 150 to 160 until I head into the mission when it drops it back down to 150. But if I place the points into the talent inside the mission it sticks at 160.
If I had to guess it would revert back to 150 after I complete the mission and load up another area.
Edi's appears to have the same behaviour. Though it won't affect her power bar as the talent only increases tech damage, not all power damage which is what is displayed in her bar.