Pimpmyvanagon wrote...
robertthebard wrote...
Yeah, she wants to be powerful, and she, like Sten, doesn't want to help those that can't help themselves.
This may have been the intent when her character was designed, but if so it was lost in writing her dialogue, and what we got instead is a brat with no consistent motivation who just likes to do things for the evulz.
She demands you help Jowan (who is perhaps the most needy character in the game and is clearly incapable of helping himself) when you encounter him in Redcliffe Castle's dungeon. You take an influence hit with Morrigan both for executing him, and for leaving him in his cell. Note that she doesn't want anything from Jowan, she just wants to free him... because.
She demands you help the demon that was dumb enough to get itself trapped by the mage Wilhelm. You take an influence hit with Morrigan both for straight-out attacking it, and for using guile to fool it into making itself vulnerable. Again, she doesn't ask anything in return for freeing it. She just wants to let it go because... something.
It's not that she won't help those who can't help themselves. It's just that she likes kicking puppies. It's impossible for me to say if this is a result of her character intentionally being written as a sociopath, or just poor character design - any sufficiently advanced chaotic stupid behavior is indistinguishable from bad writing.
I've never taken a hit from her for the demon in Wilhelm's basement, except for the time that I pushed the wrong button in dialog, and the girl got possessed and ran off. Took a hit from the whole party, except Dog, who was sad the cat went away before he got to eat it. I have also never taken a hit from my dealings with Jowan. I guess it's all in how you deal with that. You did forget that she wants to release Sten from his cage, and if for nothing else than mercy's sake alone. That kind of breaks her mold of kill everything, doesn't it? She gains approval points from me in that dialog for suggesting putting Alistair in the cage. It's funny too, because even if you have Alistair and Leliana in party, they all feel like you should release him.
It is easy to pick and choose what to use in her character as evidence though, and supports my "I don't understand her, so she's Chaotic Stupid, badly written, or just plain evil" statement. I am getting used to the inconsistencies of the forum though. Alleged behavior from one character is evil, but the same behavior from another character is perfectly understandable. It's funnier when following the course of action laid out by one character earns you disapproval from that character by doing what was suggested. I've come to understand that there are certain things that can be ignored from one, and indulged in another.
Lying to the PC is the classic example. Morrigan is accused of lying to you from the start, but where is her lie? If we include the lie of omission, which is a lie, that she doesn't tell us about the ritual until we know that part of what she's going to tell us about the ritual is true, that a Grey Warden must die to stop the blight, then we have one. This behavior is not only overlooked by some within the community, but dismissed out of hand because "we didn't need to know". So, if Morrigan had told you the first night in camp about the ritual, would you have believed that a Grey Warden had to die to slay the Archdemon and stop the blight? Would you have suspected then that she was lying to you to attempt to fulfill the ritual? You don't know this fact until Riordan tells you at Redcliffe. It's a Catch 22, and she handles it the best way she knows how. She doesn't tell you about the ritual until you know that she's telling the truth about a Grey Warden having to die. Again, is she evil then, because she leaves because she didn't get her way?
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