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[robertthebard]

Obadiah wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

However, the deciding factor of what gets done is not up to Morrigan.  As they say, it's not what you think that's illegal, it's what you do with what you think that can be.  I can stand in the bank all day thinking about robbing it.  If I don't rob it, I haven't broken the law. 

So, she's not evil because, she couldn't get me to do all that stuff she kept recommending.

K.

So, did you help Zathrian kill the werewolves?
Did you purge the Circle?
Did you put Bhelen on the throne?
Did you destroy the Anvil?
How many of the Rogue quests did you do from Slim?
Did you do the one after the Landsmeet?
Did you answer yes to any of these questions?

Congratulations, you have now met the game requirements for being evil.

[Obadiah]

robertthebard wrote...

Obadiah wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

However, the deciding factor of what gets done is not up to Morrigan.  As they say, it's not what you think that's illegal, it's what you do with what you think that can be.  I can stand in the bank all day thinking about robbing it.  If I don't rob it, I haven't broken the law. 

So, she's not evil because, she couldn't get me to do all that stuff she kept recommending.

K.

So, did you help Zathrian kill the werewolves?
Did you purge the Circle?
Did you put Bhelen on the throne?
Did you destroy the Anvil?
How many of the Rogue quests did you do from Slim?
Did you do the one after the Landsmeet?
Did you answer yes to any of these questions?

Congratulations, you have now met the game requirements for being evil.

No, that would make me guilty. Evil is something else (like sacrificing elves to get more hit points).

[Pimpmyvanagon]

robertthebard wrote...

Congratulations, you have now met the game requirements for being evil.

Uhh... for one thing, there are no game requirements for being evil to meet. Besides the fact that several of the choices you've listed are pretty clearly not evil.

For another, what does any that have to do with Morrigan?

[Statulos]

mrao wrote...

I don't see how wanting to free Jowan is inconsistent with her character. Both Jowan and Morrigan are apostate maleficar, obviously she would get mad if you kill/leave him locked up.

Overall, I saw her as a product of her upbringing. She is "smart" in the sense that she knows a lot about magic/surviving in the forest, along with having sophisticated diction much like Flemeth does. She is ignorant about almost everything else. More importantly, she is short sighted and arrogant, two traits that serve Flemeth's desires well. Remember, she was raised for a very specific purpose: To conceive the old god, and then to serve as a vessel.

I thought her asking you to kill Flemeth was the first independant thing she ever did, and even after that has trouble breaking away from what was taught to her.

My personal interpretation of Morrigan is basicaly that one. In fact, when she mentions the story about the mirror and you become that sort of "mirror" (either being her friend or lover) she starts freaking out and not knowing what to do. For once in her life she´s not in control of her own feelings and ultimately, breaks.
Her flee after Denerim´s battle, especially if you take the dark ritual path clearly shows this: she´s scared and just runs away whithout a propper explanation. Probably becase the Warden´s presence (even more if you´re "dad") is not a threat to the kid, but to Morrigan herself.
And to me that´s ultimately childish and a product of Flemeth´s indoctrination.

[Dark83]

@rob
Er, saying that "they didn't do it, therefore it means nothing" fails in this context. Yes, we should judge by actions, not idle thought - but the companions can only ever talk (with the exception of two major events), and that attempt to influence you is an action in and of themselves. Gameplay conventions clearly limit their ability to express themselves. Since the player has absolute control over everything other than their chatter, the only way for them to express themselves is through speech.
There is a difference between "thought" and "act", but speech and applying peer pressure is an action. In the "rob the bank" example, them trying to convince someone to rob the bank is equivalent in magnitude to actually robbing the bank - they have done as much as they can (the action of convincing) towards that goal.

Modifié par Dark83, 23 décembre 2009 - 04:04 .

[Arcane_Solona]

I despise Morrigan. She is such a downright idiot and it is IMPOSSIBLE to please her.

I never understood her and never liked her ever since she first cursed me by her appearance in the Kocari Wilds.

I feel sorry for all the male characters who want to romance her.

[Derengard]

Disregarding Morrigan's often pointless disapproval ratings and looking only at the dialog, I think Morrigan's character is actually quite normal. Her reactions and relationship to her mother, for example, are perfectly understandable, her worldview and character are biographically plausible. That she's not totally rational, despite apparently thinking to be herself, is really part of the point.
When I talk to her in the camp there's a bigger possibility that it will lead to a serious discussion of the situation or something plot-relevant. The others tend to be a little stagnant and long-winded.
But to everyone applies: try to figure out their reactions before you say something. Or else you'll constantly get -1, or +2, if you could also get +7 or something with a little more care.

Modifié par Derengard, 23 décembre 2009 - 05:54 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

robertthebard wrote...

People still haven't learned to not respond to Lotion? How can anyone take anything he says seriously?

I's because they've seen your posts. Compared to you, I can take a dump on a forum posts and it will still be more sensible than anything you post.

Now, if you'd care to actually debate insted of thse pitifull attempts at character assasination...

fantasypisces wrote...
So any war ever fought in the entirety of human history is evil? A lawyer defending a person in court (so that he can make his money) and thereby making his opponent suffer the death penalty (whether the person was guilty or innocent) then makes that lawyer evil, even though he may be using that money he made to give to local charities.

A medicinal company that does animal testing (lets just say the only test on Rats, no one likes rats, right?) is evil? Even though not testing that medicine could mean deaths of thousands. But by doing the testings you are in fact testing on animals that don't have a choice.

My one example, killing the child because he refused to become a man is evil? Even though that child could mean (from a faith belief) the death of the whole tribe.

An employer firing an employee because that employee is bringing down the company (that you own) is evil, according to you. You did just sacrifice that person to further your goals.

Killing others, by your defenition, in self defense would be evil.  You are sacrificing them so that you may live.

Being a landlord and evicting a family of five (including two newborn twins) because they can not pay rent (therefore hurting you financially because it is your job) is evil? Even though they signed the contract and you just condemned them to the streets.

No. Again, your examples are wrong. Reduction Ad Absurdum approach doens't work with me.

A lawywer is not evil. Every person deserves the benefit of the doubt. F'course, there are problems with the cuurrent law systems that guitly people can escape trough loopholes, but usually if htere's enough compelling evidence and hte guilt is established, justice is done.

War in general is bad. People who start wars are morons. But a soldier in war fights for survival.

Self-defence isn't evil.

Etc, etc... I could go on. Suffice to say you're arguments are non-arguments.

But the hallmark of all evil is this:
1) choosing any means to achieve a goal, regardless of cost to others. Fast solutions are preffered, regardless of less damaging alternatives.
2) lack of remorese. Anyone that got hurt by your actions is an "acceptable loss". 


Decompose all of the greatest evil actions in human history, and you'll find thse two elements there.
Morrigan has both of those traits.

I could go on and on based upon your narrowmindedness. But ultimately I am getting tired of it. You say it is futile to argue with me and I can say the same about you. It doesn't matter what I say because you will always define your world in black and white criteria. Maybe I am just more open-minded, who knows. But to me the world is a shade of grey with societal norms determining what is wholly and completely wrong (which you would call evil) and what is morally and superiorly right (what you would call good).

So I'm done, because like you said, it is futile. I'm just going to be the one to gracefully step aside before all the namecalling gets out of hand.

Bye bye.
It's cute that you consider yourself so open-minded and everyone not agreeign with you narrow-minded.

[CcDohl2]

I saw her as the token "evil perspective." It's sort of necessary in a game like this for someone to be annoyed by your nicer choices, it would seem stilted otherwise.



As a game play mechanic, it can be seen as somewhat necessary. However, I think that the character, separated from that mechanic, is well written and interesting.



I didn't personally like her, and told her that she was a heartless shrew.

[Subject696]

Arcane_Solona wrote...

I despise Morrigan. She is such a downright idiot and it is IMPOSSIBLE to please her.
I never understood her and never liked her ever since she first cursed me by her appearance in the Kocari Wilds.
I feel sorry for all the male characters who want to romance her.

its not that hard to please her.
and the reason why she is so EVIL as every one says is mostly for she those not like humens for treating hur like EVIL that mostly makes people hartless and once you get to know hur she is not al that bad.

[Subject696]

Feraele wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Matthew Young CT wrote...

I don't understand why she gets angry if you stop someone from profiteering,

Nothing wrong with profiteering to her.

Even when it has nothing to do with her?

Waste of time.

Getting a talented smith on side is a waste of time?

Morrigan couldn't care less about random people.

I couldn't care less about Morrigan. Alas that option is limited.

She doesn't care about that stuff.

Because she's too stupid to.

It slows down her attaining what she wants, or jeopardises it.

Except it doesn't, she's just too thick headed to see it.

No requirement to agree with her.

Or to acknowledge that her IQ is above a single digit either.

Again, jeopardises what she wants.

How? Unless what she wants is to be an obnoxious shrew.

Just want to add my two cents here, First off Morrigan is not a real person....she's an npc companion in  a game.  I think what frustrates some people about her, is she can't be manipulated to act how they want her to act...

She was trained by her mother Flemeth according to the story...Flemeth didn't teach her about the "milk of human kindness" instead she taught her about how to use men and dispose of them after ......

Kind of like a black widow spider.   Use em up..spit em out..next!

Flemeth has (again according to the story) been grooming Morrigan all this time to become her next host.   She doesn't really need to teach her about the social niceties...or graces or empathy for others, as those things aren't required to develop her daughter....what for?  She's going to be taken over by Flemeth, and Flemeth is centuries old....Flemeth knows everything she needs to know to survive.

Anyone get Morrigan to 100 per cent..warm friend etc?  I have.   The sad part about Morrigan,  is that she doesn't understand friendship......was never taught that by her mother.   All the things that go with friendship, are not part of her knowledge, unless your PC ...sets her the good example.   You can't force Morrigan into any mold, she has to come to conclusions herself......

One conversation I remember...we were talking about her mother, then she asked my PC about hers,  my response was  I loved my mother..what else would you like to know?    The expression and the reactions from Morrigan were, both wistful and envious, and I think right there it tells you how much Morrigan has missed out on a "normal" relationship with her mother..and stemming from that ..anyone else.

At the end of the game, she truly was my PC's friend.. in that particular run through.   Thats because I worked very hard to win her over ..and I don't think she's as horrible as people say...she's a victim of her mother's scheming and her mother's life lessons.

Simply put.

Again remembering this is a npc ...not a real person.  hehe the way some folks are reacting in this thread they seem to be all worked up ...not necessary.   Just study the character a little..thats all.

Good lesson in human relations......don't just look at what shows on the outside.

agrees^_^

[Lotion Soronarr]

Feraele wrote...
One conversation I remember...we were talking about her mother, then she asked my PC about hers,  my response was  I loved my mother..what else would you like to know?    The expression and the reactions from Morrigan were, both wistful and envious, and I think right there it tells you how much Morrigan has missed out on a "normal" relationship with her mother..and stemming from that ..anyone else.

At the end of the game, she truly was my PC's friend.. in that particular run through.   Thats because I worked very hard to win her over ..and I don't think she's as horrible as people say...she's a victim of her mother's scheming and her mother's life lessons.

There are a million ways one can become an amoral, evil person. With some I can sympathize and feel sorry.
But that doens't change what they are.

[fantasypisces]

Pimpmyvanagon wrote...
 Her wanting to help Sten (presumably because all you know about him at that point in the game is that he's committed multiple murderers, freely admits to his guilt, and shows no remorse) is just another example of her writing not reflecting the assertation that she doesn't want to help those that can't help themselves.

Just wanted to pop in and say he does feel remorse, he tells you he must attone while in the cage.

[Sialater]

Actually, it's not the death he caused that he feels bad for, it's the loss of control that led to him killing that family. Sten doesn't seem to see death as a bad thing. It's, "fighting evil in another dimension."

Modifié par Sialater, 23 décembre 2009 - 02:43 .

[fantasypisces]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...


Bye bye.
It's cute that you consider yourself so open-minded and everyone not agreeign with you narrow-minded.

You are the only person I called narrowminded, because you have clearly stated things are only good or evil, black or white. You are adament that there are no shades of grey, that is why I called you narrow-minded, and not anyone else.

Is morrigan a bad person based upon her responses, yes, but bad/wrong =/= evil.

For your lawyer situation you say they are playing the system by finding a loophole. But if a lawyer defends a client who is guilty of, lets say multiple murders, and the lawyer knows that and still defends him, then in your system (from what you have said, that is evil). Yet now you say he is not because he exploited a loophole. A good person wouldn't give a damn about a loophole, they wouldn't support that client.

But why is the lawyer defending the client? Well, for one he gets payed, two, if it is a big case he might get mentioned in newspapers, magazines, on television. He would gain popularity. That is greed, that is the sacrificing of others to further your own goals (the murdered inviduals) What you say in another post as those two things being the hallmark of evil. Yet now you say he is not because it is a loophole in the system.

So, if from a previous post you say those are characteristics of evil, but then later say that in that case the person is not evil (making him good), then you are contradicting yourself. And therefore, we both must agree to disagree that it is in fact a shade of grey, correct?

Morrigan wants to free Sten because it is wrong to leave him to rot/get eaten by darkspawn even though he shows remorse ---- That is a good attitude, one of mercy.
Morrigan wants to free Jowan because she identifies with him as an apostate. Because she thinks he was just taken advantage of. Because he shows remorse. But she also doesn't really care about what he did --- That is grey.
Morrigan thinks it is funny that you threaten a priest in lothering. She doesn't do the threatening, but she thinks it is funny. -- Grey
Morrigan has no qualms about destroying the circle of magi. She views them as week because they live their lives as sheep. They could also all be abominations for all we know. And she doesn't want to destroy the circle brick by brick, only what is inside. -- Grey
In lothering she mentions it is a waste of time getting involved in every single situation. She sort of has a point. She sees no problem with the merchants having huge prices because it is survival of the fittest. You said in another post my examples were not those of evil (i.e. the landlord, the lawyer, etc). So morrigans view here would not be evil, but neither is it a 'good' option -- Grey
At redliffe she doesn't want to help the villagers because she sees no point in risking her life (or the groups) for something that isn't important. What is important is in the castle. Tell me, in real life would you risk your life to save a bunch of people that might not mean anything, therefore ruining your whole mission? You do the deep roads because you need a king. You do the werewolves because you need the curse cured. You do the tower because you need them focused on the blight. Why do you do redcliffe village? Simply because of the goodness of your heart. -- Grey
She thinks killing Connor is the fastest approach and probably the best (who knows what damage he could do while you are gone) But she also reccomends you could go to the tower and get the help from the mages. She proposes both an evil and a good approach -- Grey
At Andraste's ashes she has no problem with you either destroying them, or keeping them. -- Grey
If you kill Genitivi she is happy. It makes sense for her, the chantry is why she has had to live so isolated. Finding andraste's ashes would convert more. If you tell him to spread the word she is upset. Note though, this doesn't imply she wants him killed. She is upset for the reason above. If you tell him anything bad comes out of this it is his fault, she has no problem. -- Grey
She gets annoyed if you help Cammen with Gheyna. It is a waste of time, we all know it, but it makes us feel good. But according to Morrigan, love is a weakness. This is neither a good or evil approach, but an opinion. - Grey
If you tell the hunter his wife loves him then Morrigan disapproves. Once again neither good or evil, she just finds it silly to say something that (according to her) doesn't matter. -- Grey
If you help Zathrian she doesn't care. If you kill Zathrien she doesn't care. If you cure the werewolves (killing Zathrian and Spirit of the Forest) she doesn't care. If you kill all the elves she finds it amusing. The last leads to an evil approach, but the fact she is the one to reallyc all Zathrian out (the whole 'sorcerer' bit) and she isn't opposed to doing the right thing) makes her not an evil person -- Grey
In orzammar and the deep roads the only real thing she might throw a fit about is preserving/destroying the anvil. She doesn't give a damn about branka, she doesn't give a damn about Caridin, she gives a damn about the anvil. And why not? It could help the dwarves reclaim thaigs, it could help end the blight. It could be the ultimate weapon. Maybe dwarves are sacrificed, maybe they volunteer. She doesn't know. It could be conscewed as evil, but that 'evil' is ultimately being used for the better of all life against the blight. -- Grey
Killing the slave elves for more hp: fine I'll give to you -- Evil
Dark Ritual, all we can say is it is Grey. We don't really know much about it.  -- Grey
She lies to you throughout the game. But ultimately gives you warnings if you friend or love her. She also protects your ass for the entire game (even if it is sometimes annoying) fighting against the real evil on the land. -- Grey

I may have forgotten things, but so far we are at:
Good: 1
Grey: 14
Evil: 1

Refute or agree with any of those if you like. But that puts her as a shade of grey to me.
Everyones arguments always center around 3 or 4 things she does that make her evil. Discounting everything else. This is the list I ran through when I was evaluating her character, deciding she is not evil.

[trueKieran]

Pimpmyvanagon wrote...

It's possible to write a companion character that follows a "survival of the fittest" philosophy, and not have them come across as an inconsistent, selfish, conceited and thoroughly stupid toddler.

BioWare hasn't managed it yet, though.

*cough*

You have got to be kidding here, neither was Kreia a typical "raised in the wild" char nor did she live by that rule. She was an old mad woman (and very selfish might I add) who wanted to destroy the force itself (for personal reasons) and the main char as someone who cut his/her connection to the force himself/herself once was the best chance to do so. You don't defeat either of the other two because you are more powerful than them. You deafeat one through conversation and the other one's end isn't even properly written, because Obisidan shipped an unfinished game.

By the way, if you read my former post (page 33), you might find a possible reason why she wants to free some imprisoned ones. Also the ones she doesn't want to help are not the ones who "can't help themselves" but those are too weak to do it or who just don't. There are enough people at Lothering to deal with the merchant themselves and if the women of Redcliffe had stopped crying and started fighting side by side with their men, the town would have had a better chance of survival too. One point of the "survival of the strongest/fittest" is that in order to survive, you have to become strong, so why bother to waste your time and risk your life for people who never even bothered to try? If you really try to understand this philosophy and then look at the situation from that point of view, then the people who are just living their nice little life in town are just sheeps and from a total neutral point of view nothing but collateral damage in a war that's about pure survival.

Modifié par trueKieran, 23 décembre 2009 - 10:47 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

fantasypisces wrote...
You are the only person I called narrowminded, because you have clearly stated things are only good or evil, black or white. You are adament that there are no shades of grey, that is why I called you narrow-minded, and not anyone else.

Is morrigan a bad person based upon her responses, yes, but bad/wrong =/= evil.

No, I haven't clearly stated that things are only black and white.

B.t.w - bad/wrong is evil...especially if there's enogu hof it. Morrign isn't 100% pure evil, but is still evil.
If you only define a 100% pure evil character as evil, then according to you there is no evil, because no one is 100% evil.

[Lotion Soronarr]

fantasypisces wrote...
Morrigan wants to free Sten because it is wrong to leave him to rot/get eaten by darkspawn even though he shows remorse ---- That is a good attitude, one of mercy.

He regreats loosing control and is still a murderer. That action i borderline.

Morrigan wants to free Jowan because she identifies with him as an apostate. Because she thinks he was just taken advantage of. Because he shows remorse. But she also doesn't really care about what he did --- That is grey.

Morri doesn't care about his remorse.

Morrigan thinks it is funny that you threaten a priest in lothering. She doesn't do the threatening, but she thinks it is funny. -- Grey

No, evil. The merchant is extorting people. Their lives depends on that food.

Morrigan has no qualms about destroying the circle of magi. She views them as week because they live their lives as sheep. They could also all be abominations for all we know. And she doesn't want to destroy the circle brick by brick, only what is inside. -- Grey

She wants to kill Wynee and the kids she's protecting, even tough they escaped the abominations. Grey my ass.

In lothering she mentions it is a waste of time getting involved in every single situation. She sort of has a point. She sees no problem with the merchants having huge prices because it is survival of the fittest. You said in another post my examples were not those of evil (i.e. the landlord, the lawyer, etc). So morrigans view here would not be evil, but neither is it a 'good' option -- Grey

I couldn't care less what she thinks. It's still downright douchebagish.

At redliffe she doesn't want to help the villagers because she sees no point in risking her life (or the groups) for something that isn't important. What is important is in the castle. Tell me, in real life would you risk your life to save a bunch of people that might not mean anything, therefore ruining your whole mission? You do the deep roads because you need a king. You do the werewolves because you need the curse cured. You do the tower because you need them focused on the blight. Why do you do redcliffe village? Simply because of the goodness of your heart. -- Grey

No. The castle is full of undead. You don' even know if Earl Eamon is alive. His sucessor is in the village that will be attacked by undead from the castle. Take out part of the undead that get sent into the village and save the sucessor, then proceed into the castle and face much less resistance. Very smart with greatest chances of sucess, since you face only a portion of the total undead force in both battles. If Eamon is dead you still have a thankfull Teagan in the village, and if he's alive, you got even more support.

Her plan is just stupid.

Etc...you get the picture. You can see everything she does as grey. I see it differently.

[M.Arends]

My 2 copper here:



Sooooo.... If Morrigan's script was so badly written, why did I just wade through the 35(!) pages long discussion here? :-)



Just wondering...

[robertthebard]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

He regreats loosing control and is still a murderer. That action i borderline.

Ok, so you see freeing Sten as borderline merciful for Morrigan?  So, since if you don't have Morrigan in party, but have Dog, Leliana and Alistair, and the whole party still thinks it's better to release him than leave him, what is that?  Is this one of those areas where her motivation can be dismissed out of hand, as you try to do here, despite Alistair and Leliana having lines to the same effect?  This is why conversation with you is impossible.  Your position is absolutely correct, even when contradicted by things in the game.  If you're going to respond, explain why Morrigan is borderline merciful, but everybody else in the party is what, waiting for their nominations for sainthood?

Yeah, you see it with blinders on, just like everything else.  Leliana says that leaving Sten in the cage to starve, or be taken by darkspawn is cruel, and nobody deserves that fate, not even a murderer.  I guess, since she's calling for mercy for a murderer she must be evil?

Alistair, w/out Morrigan in party, will also call for mercy for Sten, "You know, Qunari are renowned warriors yadda yadda yadda..."  So your teen idol is also evil?  Thanks for clearing that up.  Before you go all fanboy on me, if Morrigan's calling for mercy for Sten is still evil, then how can anyone else calling for it not be evil?  These aren't similar views on different circumstances, these are the exact same views, Sten deserves the mercy of at least dying fighting than to just be left to starve, or worse, in the cage.  Based on metagaming knowledge, Alistair's reaction should have been to call for his death on the spot.

Morrigan calls Sten a proud and noble creature, and states that if you can't see a use for him he be released for mercy's sake alone.  Alistair quips about not expecting mercy from Morrigan, and she returns with placing Alistair in the cage.  However, that dialog option does not come up, if Alistair is not in the party to quip on her opinion of releasing Sten.  He asks to get slammed, and she accomodates him.  So again, you contradict yourself to hold on to an opinion?

[menasure]

M.Arends wrote...

My 2 copper here:

Sooooo.... If Morrigan's script was so badly written, why did I just wade through the 35(!) pages long discussion here? :-)

Just wondering...

she's well written alright but she might not fit in the way of reasoning/rationalization and categorisation some want her to be in... these npc's characterisations work partly with a mirror principle like this one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_fulfilling_prophecy .
in one of my plays i saw Alistair supposedly the "good" guy as a dog just because i did not want have anything to do with the grey wardens so i left him mostly at the camp and started treating him like a dog which effectively made me see him more like a dog (he even likes the gifts for the dog!).

besides the fact that our own actions might not be as consistent as we figure them to be, the inconsistency will certainly start when these npcs have a job to do for the story in the way the writer originally saw them and this is not necessarily our own vision and the way we played the game ... and all a sudden Alistair does not fit my dog fantasy anymore so i'll have to make up a new plausible fantasy to fit those actions in or end up very frustrated.
surely the Alistair script is badly written because how can a dog be a king?

same thing applies to morrigan: she can end up talking about fashion if you are kind to her, which is enough for some to see her as a good friend or she can end up as a total evil misfit if you treat her badly. the main difference is often just the way you perceived her and the options you picked accordingly.

[FlintlockJazz]

M.Arends wrote...

My 2 copper here:

Sooooo.... If Morrigan's script was so badly written, why did I just wade through the 35(!) pages long discussion here? :-)

Just wondering...

Because it's fun to debate on the internet!

[Ryzaki]

I've been reading through this thread (and yeah yeah thread necromancy) and I have to agree with the fact that Morrigan's writing is really...off. She possessed to be a manipulative, intelligent woman but she never really displays any of this.

[atunnei]

Pssst Lotion. Back in a medieval setting the stuff you considered evil was par for the course. Dragon Age doesn't take place in US circa 2010.



AS to Morrigan I find her writing to be quite good. Why is Eamon needed? The Landsmeet to overthrow Loghain? Ok I see that as one option but what does overthrowing Loghain have to do with ending the Blight? Go get the Elves, Dwarves and Mages. When the archdemon shows up at Ferelden and proceeds to show Loghain, Howe, the Banns that "Holy $#!T it is a Blight" You can swoop in and save the day.



Going after Loghain is a personal vendetta of the Wardens or it is the freeing of the Ferelden peopel from an oppressive leader. It is not stopping the Blight. Therefore Morrigan disapproves.