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[Kopikatsu]

eran5005 wrote...

TIM eyes were like that way before his indoctrination, besides, there were a bunch of indoctrinated people throughout the game that didn't have those eyes - and what exactly is the logic of marking indoctrinated people like that?? Kinda counter productive on the reapers behalf don't you think?
I really hope BioWare won't take any pointers from all these mad conspiracy theories when and if they give some ending DLC.

Illusive Man's eyes are like that because he was partially indoctrinated a looong while back. Pretty much everyone who is indotrinated has those eyes...the Cerberus soldiers, Saren, Illusive Man...too bad we never got to see Kai Leng's eyes.

[agathokakological]

Spruebox wrote...

Nighthunteer wrote...

This could mean that TIM was indoctrinated since pre-ME 2

I really doubt he was fully indoctrinated in ME2 (if at all), as that would make it the dumbest game ever created (you're fighting the Collectors, who are working for the Reapers, because you're working for TIM, who is working for the Reapers...).  There might have been moments when the Reaps broke through if there were issues with indoctrination (like the Collector Ship trap), but I think he was mostly himself up until he got the surgery in ME3.

This would actually make sense. Assume that the extent of TIM's indoctrination in ME2 is, the reapers have convinced him that controlling them is the best way. All of his actions in ME2 (and Cerberus' actions in ME1, even) all point to TIM trying to achieve that goal, first by testing control of organics like rachni, and later trying to learn more about the Collectors, who are close to the Reapers.

[Makatak]

*forehead*

Read the comics. TIM's eyes are cybernetic. Coincidentally, so are Shepard's. Remember at the beginning of 2 when s/he was rebuilt? Yeah, your eyes could glow then, too, and that wasn't Indoctrination...

...OR WAS IT?!

You know what, Indoctrination Theorists? Let's not even hold back. All of ME1, 2, and 3, Shepard was probably Indoctrinated. Here's some entirely context-less evidence to support my theory. Because clearly, by putting Indoctrinated people in front of Shepard all the time saying, "I'm Indoctrinated, wee! Look at how Indoctrinated people act!" Shepard gets the illusion that he's not been Indoctrinated. Secretly, he's actually been Indoctrinated since he first saw Sovereign leaving Eden Prime, and the rest of the games were him just being a tool for this force or another under the illusion of acting in free will, but he was just a tool for the Reapers the whole time.

[thesnake777]

Adragalus wrote...

thesnake777 wrote...

No TIM was not indoctrinated....no one who is indoctrinated works so hard to destroy the reapers...

As far as we can tell, he was never, EVER, woking to destroy the Reapers.

TIM tells you as much, multiple times in ME3, and hints at it in ME2.

In ME2 he brings you Back to destroy the Collectors. The Collectors are tools for the Reapers.
Destroy was a bad word to use you Iadmit, but he was attempting to enslave the Reapers to further humanity. 
That puts him in oppostion of the Reapers. I dont see why The Reapers needs to send troops to shutdown a reaserch facility of an organization, whos head it indoctrinated...

[thesnake777]

Tigerjunky wrote...

thesnake777 wrote...

No TIM was not indoctrinated....no one who is indoctrinated works so hard to destroy the reapers...

At the end of the game starchild says they indoctrinated him...NEXT

I clarifed this in a further post...
this was in refrence to someone saying that he was always indoctrinated... again I also ask the purpose of the Reaper's sending death squads to shutdown TIM's reasearch labs if he was always indoctinated....

[SpectreVerner]

Did you guys forget the part where the god child said TIM was indoctrinated?

[Nighthunteer]

SpectreVerner wrote...

Did you guys forget the part where the god child said TIM was indoctrinated?

I have not

[Spartan901]

Cerberus IS indoctrinated. Read this.....

http://www.newsarama...3-110707-1.html

his theory is likely closer than people realize

[Nighthunteer]

Spartan901 wrote...

Cerberus IS indoctrinated. Read this.....

http://www.newsarama...3-110707-1.html

his theory is likely closer than people realize