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[jinxter69]

Excellent post OP...very well done.

[brian_breed]

Tsantilas wrote...

So, players take to the internet, tension unrelieved, and vent it against Bioware and Catalyst instead. I was expecting Shepard to end up being the Catalyst, because that would make sense in terms of the tautology of the game - Shepard is the person who is the most necessary to save the galaxy, because we spend the entire trilogy making her that way. It doesn't matter how that's expressed, only that it is. We didn't get that moment. Instead, we get an epilogue talking about 'the Shepard', an abstract concept that doesn't have a lot to do with the "reality" of the game we've played.

Unless you take the green pill. Then you spew your genetic material all over the galaxy and force everyone to soak in it until it seeps into their skin, bark, husks, chitin, armor, whatever.

[Vhalkyrie]

Perfect summary on how I feel, and why I don't like it.

[brian_breed]

Created 8 days ago. HOW DOES THIS GET BURIED?

[LyletheBloody]

An interesting take on the ME3 tragedy.

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

Mother of god. *jawdrop*

[KillerHappyFace]

I agree. All the way. Now I know specifically why I dislike the endings, not just that I do.

Thank you for this, Tsantilas.

[Goober2049]

This article says it all.

[Midarc2nd]

mastergpo wrote...

I really hope they read this it's dead on of how i feel.

I concur.

It conveys it perfectly.

[Semi-Sweet Serpent Charmer]

Love this. Perfectly written and gets right to the heart of it.

[evisneffo]

Well worth a read.

[chkchkchk]

I love this bit most:

The violation isn't of the player's decisions. It's of Shepard's role as the player's ideal hero. It takes the interactivity of the game, perhaps its most unique and evocative feature, and utterly ignores the immense potential to take the romance genre to its most extreme catharsis. Every step to this point has been another drop in the Care Bucket, and it just got set gently to the floor instead of poured out in one big release.

The roleplaying factor makes this ending even harder to stomach. Like your post mentions, this is very much like D&D and other such games. There is a very intimate relationship between the storyteller and the players.

She might as well be anyone. And that's the thing that nobody wanted said about their Shepard.

Well said. In D&D you just can't reduce your players to "anyone", not after you've spent hundreds of hours facilitating their immersion into the role.

[blamblooblinds]

Glad this got rez'd. Great read - insightful and well-articulated.

[Ahdia]

Maybe this could get posted in the feedback thread so it doesn't get lost again.

[pottypenguin]

Wow… That was one hell of a read.

[palanora]

i agree and this is my first post on the forums but i had to add my voice

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

chkchkchk wrote...

I love this bit most:

The violation isn't of the player's decisions. It's of Shepard's role as the player's ideal hero. It takes the interactivity of the game, perhaps its most unique and evocative feature, and utterly ignores the immense potential to take the romance genre to its most extreme catharsis. Every step to this point has been another drop in the Care Bucket, and it just got set gently to the floor instead of poured out in one big release.

The roleplaying factor makes this ending even harder to stomach. Like your post mentions, this is very much like D&D and other such games. There is a very intimate relationship between the storyteller and the players.

She might as well be anyone. And that's the thing that nobody wanted said about their Shepard.

Well said. In D&D you just can't reduce your players to "anyone", not after you've spent hundreds of hours facilitating their immersion into the role.

Pretty much...
*Spend 100 hours building character*
*Remove all player choice at last second*

[Grasich]

Great post OP. Very well thought out and really hits the nail on the head.

[Byrdman]

Holy frak... never has my whirling anger, rage, depression, sadness, anxiety, and all other emotions about this game been so focused into a real explanation as to why I'm feeling them. For a long time I've been trying to pin point why there's literally been nothing else on my mind since I beat the game on March 10th (a date which will live in infamy for me). The lack of catharsis, with all of what OP mentioned, is exactly why I've been so up in arms. Good show sir/ma'am. 10,000,000 intrawebs to you. This.... dear god this.

My Commander Shepard was me, in the truest sense of the decisions made, how he conversed, everything.  In the end, it felt like I was just watching some terrible ending to a show (like my favorite show BSG).

Modifié par Byrdman, 25 mars 2012 - 07:35 .

[Roflty]

Another person who should be employed as a writer by Bioware. I sincerely hope at least one person on their staff takes notice of this and sews a seed within the company; hopefully a travesty like this can be averted if not rectified.

[loocsileinad]

Bump. Interesting read.

[Kilshrek]

Shepard stopped becoming my character when she simply nodded at starchild's offers. It saddened me greatly.

[Dudefella]

This should be a staple read for anyone (BioWare included) who still fails to understand why so many people dislike the ending.

[wicked_being]

Very nice read OP. Thank you.

[Echo_V]

Awesome read this deserves a BUMP so everyone has the chance to read it!