He certainly nailed it in WHY we can make the claims we do. And he manages to do it without muck raking or name calling. Its amazing that in this whole debacle its the so called games journalists who depend on ad income from game companies that are defending the game while independents and a BUSINESS magazine are defending consumer rights.
Total Biscuit's take on IGN's "entitlement" argument
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:34
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Excellent and absolutely correct......+1 to Total Biscuit!!!
#105
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:35
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Legendaryred wrote...
This guy hits very deep issues with the current state of gamers as consumers. I mean we were lied to during the pre mass effect 3, you can quote a number of things Hudson said that are simply not true in the end product. It is not right to do this type of thing and we as consumers have the power with word of mouth and with our wallets.
Yeah and given that they sent up a system so that once I bought the game because I believed their bold faced lies that keeps me from being able to return it or resell it I have ever right to complaim.
Also I don't buy stuff from people who lie to me so all I am doing is letting Bioware know that I am unhappy with them and that if they wnat me back they have to give me the content that they told me would be in the game in the first place. I get mad when a trailer misleads me into spending $8 on a bad movie,why wouldn't I be mad about interview misleading me into spending $80 on a game?
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:36
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oh god, here we go again, TB lovers all over the place...
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:36
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:37
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are you saying he's not right about the issue?Sargerus wrote...
oh god, here we go again, TB lovers all over the place...
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:39
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Great points TB!
I really prefer using a business model to approach this situation too.
I really prefer using a business model to approach this situation too.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:40
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suusuuu wrote...
are you saying he's not right about the issue?Sargerus wrote...
oh god, here we go again, TB lovers all over the place...
i'm saying that is gonna be Day 1 DLC rant all over again in these forums, and TB is overrated btw
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:40
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When economic principles are brought up and the replies include, "no evidence." Is it just me that face palms?
Falling asleep in your economics class again?
TB paraphrased basic market princples you can find in any economic text. There is your evidence.
Please stop watching Fox news.
Thanks,
~Lass
Falling asleep in your economics class again?
TB paraphrased basic market princples you can find in any economic text. There is your evidence.
Please stop watching Fox news.
Thanks,
~Lass
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:40
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+1 one on the video. Hold the line!
EDIT: presses submit way too soon.
EDIT: presses submit way too soon.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:41
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Love that guy, always have. Tends to speak more truth, be more connected and responsible than all the big gaming sites combined. Respect to him.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:42
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Sargerus wrote...
...and TB is overrated btw
Honestly I don't understand a statement like that. A rating is a personal opinion, so long as that rating isn't being bought and paid for of course.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:42
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does this situation look to you like the Day 1 DLC thing? To me it doesn't. It doesn't matter if he's overrated or not, he makes some very valid points.Sargerus wrote...
suusuuu wrote...
are you saying he's not right about the issue?Sargerus wrote...
oh god, here we go again, TB lovers all over the place...
i'm saying that is gonna be Day 1 DLC rant all over again in these forums, and TB is overrated btw
#117
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:45
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Can anybody link the IGN video this is a reply to?
#118
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:45
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TB is not just some kind of random independant game journalist but also a law graduate, so please have at least some respect. He's not talking out of his ass on this subject.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:47
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That also reminds me that I need to get caught up on the TB/JC Terraria LP.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:48
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Nice Video. There is a few thoughts I would like to add myself.
I like how the contributor for Forbes also said that this Entitlement syndrome (as in complaining fans are seen as being Entitled) seems to permiate the video game industry and video game journalists. That in no other industry are displeased comsumers seen as entitled just because they are complaing or making demands. Heck fan disgust in movies or TV are rarely seen as being entitled.
They are right, entitlement is thrown at an individual that does seem to take things to far ask for something that is beyond his rights. But in the video game industry it seems that game reviewers and the industry itself seems to think if people complain it is automatically entitlement. That for some reason complaining about the poor quality of a product is considered "entitlement".
This has led me to the conclusion that: a) there is a reason why so many crap games come out, the standard of quality is set pretty low in this industry. ME3 was NOT a crap game but it still had a poor ending, but I guess that's okay to some.
the industry is immature. Not the fans (though we can be 
)... but the industry itself and the people that represent it (like IGN).
I like how the contributor for Forbes also said that this Entitlement syndrome (as in complaining fans are seen as being Entitled) seems to permiate the video game industry and video game journalists. That in no other industry are displeased comsumers seen as entitled just because they are complaing or making demands. Heck fan disgust in movies or TV are rarely seen as being entitled.
They are right, entitlement is thrown at an individual that does seem to take things to far ask for something that is beyond his rights. But in the video game industry it seems that game reviewers and the industry itself seems to think if people complain it is automatically entitlement. That for some reason complaining about the poor quality of a product is considered "entitlement".
This has led me to the conclusion that: a) there is a reason why so many crap games come out, the standard of quality is set pretty low in this industry. ME3 was NOT a crap game but it still had a poor ending, but I guess that's okay to some.
the industry is immature. Not the fans (though we can be )... but the industry itself and the people that represent it (like IGN).
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:49
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Sorry can't watch it, even if he agrees with my stance. Not after his claim to "not liking" the attack on Biowares forums a few weeks ago but in essense completely condoning it.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:51
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Meh i'll pass on TB rant's there pointless i like to live in the real world not fantasy land.There's 2 kinds of people in the world the ones that step and the ones who get stepped on people with money step on the ones without any that's how the world has worked that's how the world works and that's how the world will always work and nothing anyone says or those will ever change it.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:54
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Awesome Vid. thumbs up for Total Biscut.
if you want your voice heard louder got to my blog which I have a link too in my Sig , click on my ME3 review and click on the links to my polls.
1. would you Boycott Bioware if they don't fix the endings
2. do you believe Multiplayer should have no impact on the single player campaign
3. Facebook Campaign demand better endings for ME3
if you want your voice heard louder got to my blog which I have a link too in my Sig , click on my ME3 review and click on the links to my polls.
1. would you Boycott Bioware if they don't fix the endings
2. do you believe Multiplayer should have no impact on the single player campaign
3. Facebook Campaign demand better endings for ME3
#124
Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:58
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You can make change by not feeding money to people who lie about their products.eye basher wrote...
Meh i'll pass on TB rant's there pointless i like to live in the real world not fantasy land.There's 2 kinds of people in the world the ones that step and the ones who get stepped on people with money step on the ones without any that's how the world has worked that's how the world works and that's how the world will always work and nothing anyone says or those will ever change it.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 09:58
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Lassandra wrote...
When economic principles are brought up and the replies include, "no evidence." Is it just me that face palms?
Falling asleep in your economics class again?
TB paraphrased basic market princples you can find in any economic text. There is your evidence.
Please stop watching Fox news.
Thanks,
~Lass
This. Very much.
