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[Arppis]

Pissed me off today when I was playing with other Vanguard, and we had some kid with us on team. He got downed and asked for help. I charged in and started helping him, but the other Vanguard said: "Help yourself, kid. I am doing all the work here...", I hate douches like that. It could have been any class, however.

Kids may be sometime annoying to play with, but that doesn't mean you should get all high and mighty with people. In the end, judging by the score, I ended up doing the most work.

[heshkelgaii]

Youmu wrote...

heshkelgaii wrote...

In other words Vanguards are great for farming credits, not so great if you like doing something other than Y, Rb, Rb... or on pc 1, 2, 2...

I'm not sure how that differs from other caster classes, Adepts for most part just alternate between two abilities for 'splosions. Engineers might end up spamming a single key, followed by spamming another one (strip shields, burn down armor). 

Krogan Soldier pretty much just spams Carnage non stop.

Nova Takes approximately 50% of your barriers when you use it, if you take the Nova ability that gives you 2 Novas at 60% it leaves you with barriers in tact.  But you are correct to say that it isn't much different in terms of pressing buttons, however I've went entire waves not knowing where I am half of the time.  Also in the middle of a big group of enemies there isn't always time to worry about who you are going to charge, I've made the mistake of lining up my next charge instead of just taking the risk at the banshee ahead of me and falling over dead by a cannibal from half way across the map. 

To me they just seem boring, but possibly also because I've had several days in a row where all I'm doing is playing a Vanguard, promoting, and trying out new builds.  I saw earlier about a guy mentioning a shockwave build, and contrary to what I said in my previous post I think I'm going to try it out, mainly because I want to be able to set up my own biotic explosions.

[Lightweight Nate]

I hate some Vanguards. There was a guy last night that would Charge every single enemy that I took out with Concussive Shot. Every single damn enemy that I took down, he would take the kill. He was getting 250+ points for kills that he really had nothing to do with. It was really annoying. Others can be team players.

[heshkelgaii]

Arppis wrote...

Pissed me off today when I was playing with other Vanguard, and we had some kid with us on team. He got downed and asked for help. I charged in and started helping him, but the other Vanguard said: "Help yourself, kid. I am doing all the work here...", I hate douches like that. It could have been any class, however.

Kids may be sometime annoying to play with, but that doesn't mean you should get all high and mighty with people. In the end, judging by the score, I ended up doing the most work.

That would be extremely annoying.  I admit I'm not much for kids, but I never degrade them in game. 
Also personally score is irrelevant, I usually start a new character using the GPS just to be effective when playing, but I tend to be in the first or second spot when I do, however It seems silly to worry so much about it in the very least.  Xp is easy to get in MP.

[Impulse and Compulse]

I'm a vanguard, and if you know what you're doing it can be an extremely effective class. Hell, I beat silver with one other guy when we both cooperatively charged everything.

I usually find my teammates to be annoying because they all insist on backing into a corner like it's Call of Duty. I understand wanting to stick together, but when they literally will not leave their building on firebase Ghost even when there are 2 phantoms and 3 atlases inside, it gets me pretty peaved. I'm generally experienced enough as a Vanguard that the only time I die is when the game occasionally glitches out and doesn't let me charge. But if you give me an area to move around in nearby your position, I can lock down an area like no other.

The biggest thing that bugs me is Krogan soldiers. Was going for the damn Reaper challenge, made it to round 9 because the damn krogan KEPT CHARGING EVERYTHING. BANSHEES. BRUTES. RAVAGERS. I spent like 6 minutes running around getting repeatedly cornered by banshees and ravagers.

Next game I joined? We had a team of biotics who took down brutes literally in under 10 seconds. It was beautiful.

[jakal66]

I played with the drell vanguard and If you teamplay you can be a great asset, the problem is when you have people running around the map trying to run over a brute and getting their a&%$%$ handed to them in silver and in gold...hahaha i see vanguards doing this in bronze thinking they could never get away with that in silver.Plus some vanguard dont even cover...

[N7 Banshee Bait]

I ignore the Vanguards. Even when they go down I ignore them unless they happen to be right next to me. I've learned that the quickest way to get killed in this game is from trying to revive fallen teammates. I don't revive teammates anymore unless I know it's 100% safe.

[frozngecko]

My beef with Vanguards:

1) Noob Vanguards
2) Vanguards too far away for me to care.

I'm fine with everything else they do. Them stealing my kills means less people shooting at me. This is Co-op, people. We get more credits the faster we complete a task, I often get first place for assisting them, and they're thankful that I overloaded their shields to make their lives easier.

Modifié par frozngecko, 20 mars 2012 - 11:52 .

[Conundrum129]

The bad ones annoy me greatly.  I've played enough games with them to know that a Vanguard should never charge a Phantom, it only ends badly for the Vanguard.  What I really hate is the ones that go off all over the map durring a data extraction, it slows the team down and generally makes everyone else really mad. 

After the last match I did today I've decided not to revive any idiot Vanguards anymore, it's a waste of my time and more often then not a waste of the little medigel I have to start with. 

I will gladly help a good Vanguard who understands that he\\she is part of a team and understands they need to work with people, not go off and try to pull a Jack or a Shepard. 

The bottom line is don't be a hero, a hero is someone who is someone who is smart enough to come up with a plan, dumb enough to execute it, and lucky enough to come out alive. 

[AnethmA]

It's just so hard not to... *see's a brute*... *gets the shakes and sweats*...
I uh... *heavy breathing*... I'm... CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 

Modifié par AnethmA, 20 mars 2012 - 07:46 .

[sliverofamoon]

Had so much fun on a run in Bronze last night with 3 Vanguards, and a Turian Soldier. Thank you all so much for the very fun time! Comet trails, and Nova's and Asari bubble explosions galore!

[Heathen6]

Here's a tip: if you join a game lobby with a Vanguard, consider it a test run.  Don't waste any equipment on the first game and just go in with low expectations.  Leave the game lobby after game 1 if they prove to be a liability to the team's success.

If the ****** decides to go kamikazee to the opposite side of the map on silver/gold's later waves, screw it, let them die and hope they either learn or leave.  Otherwise try to stay somewhat mobile to cover them.

Vanguards: when it gets hairy charge into enemies that your teammates have line of sight on.  Can't stay alive?  Go back to bronze.

[Onyx Reaper]

 Skill, MY @RSE! all Vanguards have to to do is point, Charge, Nova, Charge, Nova... Overpowered class, until a lovely Banshee shows em' how it's done. It's actually funny when a so_called PRO thinks he/she is hard Sh!t, and charges an oncoming Atlas, Banshee or Phantom only to be Instakilled...  gives me a chuckle.

[Arppis]

heshkelgaii wrote...

Arppis wrote...

Pissed me off today when I was playing with other Vanguard, and we had some kid with us on team. He got downed and asked for help. I charged in and started helping him, but the other Vanguard said: "Help yourself, kid. I am doing all the work here...", I hate douches like that. It could have been any class, however.

Kids may be sometime annoying to play with, but that doesn't mean you should get all high and mighty with people. In the end, judging by the score, I ended up doing the most work.

That would be extremely annoying.  I admit I'm not much for kids, but I never degrade them in game. 
Also personally score is irrelevant, I usually start a new character using the GPS just to be effective when playing, but I tend to be in the first or second spot when I do, however It seems silly to worry so much about it in the very least.  Xp is easy to get in MP.

Yeah, there are douches everywhere. And I don't particulary love kids either.

[Youmu]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

In fact, Vanguards are the same effective in taking out Phantoms as Asari Adepts are.

Word. Novaguard can take out Phantoms without any problems, and pretty fast too.

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Decided to play some warp-throw Sentinel, and there was a decent Vanguard in the team. Warp one in the group, Vanguard charges it, BOOOM. Rinse, repeat. Same for big threats like Brutes, just spam Warp and a Novaguard will immediatelly detonate it.  Now if I'd find an Sentinel/Adept to do the same when I'm running novaguard.

[Schneidend]

RC Clone wrote...

artemzz wrote...

Vanguards and then anyone playing Krogan who think they are invincible and just melee every thing they see.

You mean like this -> www.youtube.com/watch

This is the greatest thing that has ever happened.

[Oswin]

I've started playing as an Asari vanguard and I spend a lot less time dying than I did as a human adept. Success!
I admit that I do run off, all the time. I'm only playing on bronze though, so I never end up dead when I'm miles away from the rest of the team. I just pick off the smaller crowds that are trying to flank my teammates. Only when we're all bunched together trying to upload or extract and there's about 3 brutes and a banshee cornering us do I end up dying.
My shotgunnung and charging method is effective against Brutes, but Banshees are still the bane of my freaking life.
If I miraculously become a decent player then I could be of use as a vanguard on silver and gold levels. But right now, should the rest of my team fall there is no chance I can hold my own and finish a wave as a vanguard.
...or as any class.

Man I suck.

[Onyx Reaper]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Onyx Reaper wrote...

 Skill, MY @RSE! all Vanguards have to to do is point, Charge, Nova, Charge, Nova... Overpowered class, until a lovely Banshee shows em' how it's done. It's actually funny when a so_called PRO thinks he/she is hard Sh!t, and charges an oncoming Atlas, Banshee or Phantom only to be Instakilled...  gives me a chuckle.

Oh, sorry, I didn't knew my Engineers, Adepts, Infiltrators and sorts needed so much more skill to press the buttons I use for my playstyles. Guess I did it wrong all the time.

There is no skill in simply pressing a button, to fart is more of a challenge  

[sliverofamoon]

Onyx Reaper wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Onyx Reaper wrote...

 Skill, MY @RSE! all Vanguards have to to do is point, Charge, Nova, Charge, Nova... Overpowered class, until a lovely Banshee shows em' how it's done. It's actually funny when a so_called PRO thinks he/she is hard Sh!t, and charges an oncoming Atlas, Banshee or Phantom only to be Instakilled...  gives me a chuckle.

Oh, sorry, I didn't knew my Engineers, Adepts, Infiltrators and sorts needed so much more skill to press the buttons I use for my playstyles. Guess I did it wrong all the time.

There is no skill in simply pressing a button, to fart is more of a challenge  

So? It's still fun...... Isn't that what playing these games is supposed to be about? Having fun?

[Onyx Reaper]

sliverofamoon wrote...

Onyx Reaper wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Onyx Reaper wrote...

 Skill, MY @RSE! all Vanguards have to to do is point, Charge, Nova, Charge, Nova... Overpowered class, until a lovely Banshee shows em' how it's done. It's actually funny when a so_called PRO thinks he/she is hard Sh!t, and charges an oncoming Atlas, Banshee or Phantom only to be Instakilled...  gives me a chuckle.

Oh, sorry, I didn't knew my Engineers, Adepts, Infiltrators and sorts needed so much more skill to press the buttons I use for my playstyles. Guess I did it wrong all the time.

There is no skill in simply pressing a button, to fart is more of a challenge  

So? It's still fun...... Isn't that what playing these games is supposed to be about? Having fun?

touché, human

[Bluebeam2012]

Youmu wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

In fact, Vanguards are the same effective in taking out Phantoms as Asari Adepts are.

Word. Novaguard can take out Phantoms without any problems, and pretty fast too.

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Decided to play some warp-throw Sentinel, and there was a decent Vanguard in the team. Warp one in the group, Vanguard charges it, BOOOM. Rinse, repeat. Same for big threats like Brutes, just spam Warp and a Novaguard will immediatelly detonate it.  Now if I'd find an Sentinel/Adept to do the same when I'm running novaguard.

I'm with them on Vanguards killing Phantoms. In one of the games, my team mate went down because of a phantom. Using charge and nova (along with some help from my shot gun), manage to kill it and revive my team mate.

The thing is, vanguards are quite a liability against geth waves, since most of them either have shields or armor. =S

[EG NeoMorph]

I'm not really a fan of Vanguards but decided to level up my own Asari Vanguard... and half way through the match the rest of the guys on the team said "Thanks for playing a Vanguard as a team player and not zooming all over the other side of the map. Makes a change from idiots who get themselves killed all the time."

That's why players hate Vanguards... zooming around away from the rest of the team and acting as a lone wolf. I used it as a support to keep enemies from flanking the rest of the team and watching their backs to stop any enemies sneaking up on teammates... Comes in useful for rezzing too as you can stop the enemy stamping on downed teammates.

The Vanguards I hate are the ones who take your kill just as you are about the finish an enemy. It wastes firepower (I'm not bothered about kill stealing... would rather the Vanguard take down another enemy while I'm taking down mine).