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[Koobarex]

Slashice wrote...

Destruction is red
Controlling is blue
They screwed the ending
This hurts you

+1

[CronoDragoon]

shepardthegreat97 wrote...

First off, I would like to establish I have been a ME fan sense it came out. And yes,  I did play (and watch as well) the ending.

 People are petitioning for a DLC that changes the Mass Effect 3 ending. But... not going to happen.

1). Bioware has said multiple times "For all those Mass Effect fans, there will be more." Why change the ending when Bioware can release another game that shows the rebuilding of the Mass Relays (its Bioware, they will find a way) and the fate of the normandy crews. Everyone wins. Bioware makes millions, fans get closure. (mind=blown)

2). All those who create art accept criticism. But Bioware seems to encourage it. They wanted an unforgettable ending. And you know what, the succeeded. This is the most I have ever seen anyone talk about an ending. That being said, was the ending preforable? To me, sort of. It ended Shepards story perfectly. But it never really applied your choices to the ending. Unless you derped through the entire game, everyones ending was pretty much the same. But, with a new game, Bioware can apply choices from all ME games, including if you cured the genophage and if Earth survived. (I am aware the krogans are probably dead, but then again, plummeting to a planet from outer space didnt kill Shepard.)

3). If in some slim situation that Bioware released a DLC, not everyone would buy it (or even download it if it was free.) I would pay like 3 dollars for a new ending, but that is the extent. And if they were to release another game, all the people who got default endings would be like . I would officially be Biowares bi*** if they did.

 I hope my points were valid enough. If not oh well. If I am wrong, I will be happy to eat my own words.

1. So instead of waiting a few months and paying $10 to see the end of Shepard's story, we'd have to wait 3 years and pay $60? How is this better?

2. Gigli is remembered too, you know.

3. Most people here would pay more than 3 bucks for it, I'm betting. And it would sell more than any other DLC option they have, especially since many fans on this board, including me, don't feel the point in paying for pre-ending DLC content.

Most of your points seem to point to getting excited about Mass Effect 4 resolving everything. 3 was supposed to resolve everything....

[kramerfan86]

You might be right, but I think its a bit of a rip to sell a game as a conclusion that answers the questions then promptly create new questions that force people to buy yet another game. Id be more fine with that if this wasnt sold as a conclusion and was just instead sold simply as the next game in an on going series.

[Ailith Tycane]

Evil Minion wrote...

I prefer an EXPANSION, not a RE-WRITE.

A re-write isn't going to happen.

And it shouldn't. I just want an explination, since the ending didn't explain a damn thing.

[wolfstanus]

It will be a DLC kinda thing not a rewrite... DLC as in like in ME2.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

shepardthegreat97 wrote...

First off, I would like to establish I have been a ME fan sense it came out. And yes,  I did play (and watch as well) the ending.

 People are petitioning for a DLC that changes the Mass Effect 3 ending. But... not going to happen.

1). Bioware has said multiple times "For all those Mass Effect fans, there will be more." Why change the ending when Bioware can release another game that shows the rebuilding of the Mass Relays (its Bioware, they will find a way) and the fate of the normandy crews. Everyone wins. Bioware makes millions, fans get closure. (mind=blown)

2). All those who create art accept criticism. But Bioware seems to encourage it. They wanted an unforgettable ending. And you know what, the succeeded. This is the most I have ever seen anyone talk about an ending. That being said, was the ending preforable? To me, sort of. It ended Shepards story perfectly. But it never really applied your choices to the ending. Unless you derped through the entire game, everyones ending was pretty much the same. But, with a new game, Bioware can apply choices from all ME games, including if you cured the genophage and if Earth survived. (I am aware the krogans are probably dead, but then again, plummeting to a planet from outer space didnt kill Shepard.)

3). If in some slim situation that Bioware released a DLC, not everyone would buy it (or even download it if it was free.) I would pay like 3 dollars for a new ending, but that is the extent. And if they were to release another game, all the people who got default endings would be like . I would officially be Biowares bi*** if they did.

 I hope my points were valid enough. If not oh well. If I am wrong, I will be happy to eat my own words.

Speaking for myself:

1) Closure and answers were supposed to happen here. Not in the next game that we'll have to pay for.

2) The game wouldn't be forgettable for many reasons based on its story and choices. But the ending is the bad way to rememeber it, the way they did it.

3) I don't know about DLCs, they said they won't release post-end DLC, an expansion could be likely, but I doubt it.
And I still don't want a new game to tell us what happened.

[Spectre_Shepard]

I sure as hell wont forget this ending.

Likely to be the last ending of a Bioware game I ever see.

[shepardthegreat97]

What is sad is that you are so stuck in your resolve against ME3s endings, you wont even give Bioware a chance. You ask for DLC, but if they give you that, they cant touch the series ever again. That being said, they did back themselves into a corner.

[crimzontearz]

so screw what thousands of people want right OP?

[DrowNoble]

shepardthegreat97 wrote...

First off, I would like to establish I have been a ME fan sense it came out. And yes,  I did play (and watch as well) the ending.

 People are petitioning for a DLC that changes the Mass Effect 3 ending. But... not going to happen.

1). Bioware has said multiple times "For all those Mass Effect fans, there will be more." Why change the ending when Bioware can release another game that shows the rebuilding of the Mass Relays (its Bioware, they will find a way) and the fate of the normandy crews. Everyone wins. Bioware makes millions, fans get closure. (mind=blown)

2). All those who create art accept criticism. But Bioware seems to encourage it. They wanted an unforgettable ending. And you know what, the succeeded. This is the most I have ever seen anyone talk about an ending. That being said, was the ending preforable? To me, sort of. It ended Shepards story perfectly. But it never really applied your choices to the ending. Unless you derped through the entire game, everyones ending was pretty much the same. But, with a new game, Bioware can apply choices from all ME games, including if you cured the genophage and if Earth survived. (I am aware the krogans are probably dead, but then again, plummeting to a planet from outer space didnt kill Shepard.)

3). If in some slim situation that Bioware released a DLC, not everyone would buy it (or even download it if it was free.) I would pay like 3 dollars for a new ending, but that is the extent. And if they were to release another game, all the people who got default endings would be like . I would officially be Biowares bi*** if they did.

 I hope my points were valid enough. If not oh well. If I am wrong, I will be happy to eat my own words.

Problem is the way ME3 ended, there can't be an ME4.  No relays, no interstellar travel.  Most races are dead as when the relays go boom the nearby system went boom with it.  If somehow Earth didn't go boom, every race will die out as Earth can't support all those people (turians can't eat human food fyi).

Can't even do a "beat the game continue on" DLC since, as I stated above, no interstellar travel and dozens of systmes destroyed.

There have been numerous posts and articles about why this isn't about being critical of art.  It's about an unsatisfying ending that was filled with plot holes and no closure.  Not to mention the dishonesty from Bioware about how there were 17 different endings, a satisfying conclusion and a culmination of all our decisions.  All lies.

Remember people:  HOLD THE LINE

[Turtlicious]

just watch this video PLEASE and tell me that the edings shouldn't be fixed.

[I Ryukage I]

Slashice wrote...

Destruction is red
Controlling is blue
They screwed the ending
This hurts you

LOL

[MaYtriX]

Cant they find a way to continue the story in a fourth game WITH closure for the third?

[wright1978]

ME 3 isn't art. It is a consumer product. As consumers we are perfectly within our rights to voice our displeasure. How do you ensure quality unless consumers lobby for it when companies fall well below minimum standards. The ending of ME3 shouldn't be the gateway to some mythical future game it should be a fitting varied conclusion to a series based on player choice

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

"Destruction is red
Controlling is blue
They screwed the ending
This hurts you"

This will be in history books years from now.

[BaladasDemnevanni]

shepardthegreat97 wrote...

2). All those who create art accept criticism. But Bioware seems to encourage it. They wanted an unforgettable ending. And you know what, the succeeded. This is the most I have ever seen anyone talk about an ending. That being said, was the ending preforable? To me, sort of. It ended Shepards story perfectly. But it never really applied your choices to the ending. Unless you derped through the entire game, everyones ending was pretty much the same. But, with a new game, Bioware can apply choices from all ME games, including if you cured the genophage and if Earth survived. (I am aware the krogans are probably dead, but then again, plummeting to a planet from outer space didnt kill Shepard.)

There are multiple forms of "unforgettable". When I finished Watchmen, I thought the ending was unforgettable because it concluded all the relevant plot arcs, while deconstructing the superhero mythos. When I finished Red Dead Redemption, I found the culmination of John Marston's journey to be emotional yet fitting.

When I finished Mass Effect 3, I couldn't forget how idiotic the starchild's logic was and how it managed to ruin the 60+ hour journey.

So I would agree that ME3's ending was unforgettable, in a way.

Modifié par BaladasDemnevanni, 14 mars 2012 - 09:53 .

[Tony208]

shepardthegreat97 wrote...

2). All those who create art accept criticism. But Bioware seems to encourage it. They wanted an unforgettable ending. And you know what, the succeeded. This is the most I have ever seen anyone talk about an ending. That being said, was the ending preforable? To me, sort of. It ended Shepards story perfectly. But it never really applied your choices to the ending. Unless you derped through the entire game, everyones ending was pretty much the same. But, with a new game, Bioware can apply choices from all ME games, including if you cured the genophage and if Earth survived. (I am aware the krogans are probably dead, but then again, plummeting to a planet from outer space didnt kill Shepard.)

So you're saying you agree that the ending fails but you're ok with it because you think Bioware will make a sequel that shows that our actions really did matter?

[Silent Rage]

Whats ME4 gonna be about? New colors and new ways to die at the end?

[ZodiEmish]

OP let me point something out to you.. This is all about money, and EA likes money. If the majority of the hard core fanbase ( the people who are most likely to buy DLC ) are calling for the end to be changed. There is a VERY high chance that EA will give in because EA likes money. Artistic creativity doesn't matter in the long run because it is all about money first and for most.

If the majority wants an ending and most are willing to pay for it ( me included ) then chances are they will give it to us. Because EA knows how to run a business. ( okay some might debate that, but they know how to make money off of DLC )

[DoctorEss]

Skimmed, but: Making a new game to address the lousy ending of the previous one is pretty much the dumbest thing they could do, and would result in SO much ill will for the company.

[toolfan9284]

Whatever direction BW takes is fine with me, not interested in being jerked around with mass effect or BW anymore. Moving on...

[shepardthegreat97]

crimzontearz wrote...

so screw what thousands of people want right OP?

 No, what I am saying is this... the 2 step bioware fix.

1). Release DLC to fix the ending.
2). Promptly watch as people are angry there is no mass effect 4

To give you DLC is to give you information. Once you know what happened, there is nothing else to say. As you said yourselves, with the Mass Relays destroyed, what else is there to do?

[Fail_Inc]

The relays are not built by the humans,asari or anyone. They were just there so when they're deactivated, blown away I dunno how the races will fix it before the time takes normandy's crew 1 by 1. Blow your mind for something else ^^

[Evil Minion]

DrowNoble wrote...

shepardthegreat97 wrote...

First off, I would like to establish I have been a ME fan sense it came out. And yes,  I did play (and watch as well) the ending.

 People are petitioning for a DLC that changes the Mass Effect 3 ending. But... not going to happen.

1). Bioware has said multiple times "For all those Mass Effect fans, there will be more." Why change the ending when Bioware can release another game that shows the rebuilding of the Mass Relays (its Bioware, they will find a way) and the fate of the normandy crews. Everyone wins. Bioware makes millions, fans get closure. (mind=blown)

2). All those who create art accept criticism. But Bioware seems to encourage it. They wanted an unforgettable ending. And you know what, the succeeded. This is the most I have ever seen anyone talk about an ending. That being said, was the ending preforable? To me, sort of. It ended Shepards story perfectly. But it never really applied your choices to the ending. Unless you derped through the entire game, everyones ending was pretty much the same. But, with a new game, Bioware can apply choices from all ME games, including if you cured the genophage and if Earth survived. (I am aware the krogans are probably dead, but then again, plummeting to a planet from outer space didnt kill Shepard.)

3). If in some slim situation that Bioware released a DLC, not everyone would buy it (or even download it if it was free.) I would pay like 3 dollars for a new ending, but that is the extent. And if they were to release another game, all the people who got default endings would be like . I would officially be Biowares bi*** if they did.

 I hope my points were valid enough. If not oh well. If I am wrong, I will be happy to eat my own words.

Problem is the way ME3 ended, there can't be an ME4.  No relays, no interstellar travel.  Most races are dead as when the relays go boom the nearby system went boom with it.  If somehow Earth didn't go boom, every race will die out as Earth can't support all those people (turians can't eat human food fyi).

Can't even do a "beat the game continue on" DLC since, as I stated above, no interstellar travel and dozens of systmes destroyed.

There have been numerous posts and articles about why this isn't about being critical of art.  It's about an unsatisfying ending that was filled with plot holes and no closure.  Not to mention the dishonesty from Bioware about how there were 17 different endings, a satisfying conclusion and a culmination of all our decisions.  All lies.

Remember people:  HOLD THE LINE

1. The relays were only "destroyed" in the "red" ending. They were not destroyed in either the green or blue ending.

2. There will be ample opportunity to rebuild the galaxy even in the "red" ending. We have no idea if every system was wiped out, and we certainly have no reason to think that the races couldn't re-invent the necessary technology.

3. Glactic civilization continues. The old man and the kid are proof of that.

[Slashice]

Silent Rage wrote...

Whats ME4 gonna be about? New colors and new ways to die at the end?

My resources says that BioWare is now going to implement a Pink, Brown and Yellow ending. Not sure which one does what but I'd bet my life on it that there will be a hell a lot of difference between those...