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Frytak

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 Hello, I dont know if it was already mentioned, but In all videos or scenes in the universe or space or vacuum there is sound, you hear the ship´s engines and all sound in the vacuum. For example if you want to travel through relay there you can hear Sound of Normalny´s engines and some blast of energy from Relay. For example ( 
 ) btw ( sorry about video its not mine but I dont know find another one from Official publisher. Ok so back into opic... There is one thing, you cannot hear any sound in vacuum. Its realy ,,UnPhysical´´ if you hear sounds in videos when you travel through universe. Thanks.

Modifié par Frytak, 14 mars 2012 - 09:39 .


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ncknck

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Nitpicking? You can hear sounds in space. Because space is not vacuum.

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Frytak

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In universe there is Vacuum. Sorry not offence but did y finish elementary school? In vacuum there are no particles like on earth for example Oxygen O2. So they can vibrate if y say something or if you create some vibration. Thats the reason you hear sound. But in vacuum there are no particles so sound waves cannot spread.

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yes maybe in elementary school it is taught that space is vacuum. But it is untrue, there is always matter in space, just low density. like 100 atoms/cm^3. Thus vibration translations are possible etc etc blahblah.

//ignoring technobabble explanations like devices analyzing visual object surface vibrations and translating those into sound.

"space has no sound" thing is a myth.

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Almost every science fiction-themed movie or television series has sound in space because otherwise it would be "boring" to viewers. Besides, Mass Effect (initially) was designed to emulate a science fiction movie.

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Minor point but you aren't actually in space...you are inside the Normandy so of course you will hear the sounds of the engines etc
I didn't see anything about me being outside the ship when I travel on it place to place :P

The view of the ship is just an overview to give you an easier time navigating. 

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Actually they bring this up. When you talk to Cortez on the citadel, he said sometimes he liked to watch ships fly by without the sound emulators on, seeing them glide siliently. Which would lead one to believe that these "sounds emulators" replicate the noises made if there were oxygen.

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ncknck wrote...

yes maybe in elementary school it is taught that space is vacuum. But it is untrue, there is always matter in space, just low density. like 100 atoms/cm^3. Thus vibration translations are possible etc etc blahblah.

//ignoring technobabble explanations like devices analyzing visual object surface vibrations and translating those into sound.

"space has no sound" thing is a myth.

True, though I think it's more like 100 per cubic metre (which I believe is only an average, so probably much more in, say, nebulae, and much less in intergalactic space). Enough to carry sound waves? No idea, but if you can persuade someone to stick their head out of an airlock on the ISS and tell us what they can hear I'd love to know the result. I prefer the jokey explanations, bit like Joker saying how much skill it takes to bank a ship in space.
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Depends from signal strength and receiver amplifiers. I bet all the dolphins think sounds in air are impossible too. ~~~~~ Air density 1kg/m^3, water density 1000kg/m^3

A far more greater problem would be that an atom colliding with a fast travelling ship == a ship colliding with a fast travelling atom. FTL travel in normal space, even if physics would allow it, is still impossible, everyone on board would be killed in seconds by radiation. I cant think of anything which would prevent such a fate on a normal ship.

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space is a really dirty place. A shame.

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ncknck wrote...

Depends from signal strength and receiver amplifiers.

Ah, well there's the thing, isn't it? It's sounds that are actually audible to the human ear, as in space ship whooshy noises in game or movies. I don't want to find out by personal experimentation but I'm guessing most people couldn't hear a wave travelling through a medium of a hundred or so atoms per cubic metre.

ncknck wrote...

A far more greater problem would be that an atom colliding with a fast travelling ship == a ship colliding with a fast travelling atom.

Mass effect fields, mate. Everything's solved by mass effect fields. Hostile wepons? Mass effect fields. Artificial gravity? Mass effect fields. Spaceship engines? Mass effect fields. Lost the ignition key for the Normandy and got locked out on Ilium? Get yourself a couple of mass effect fields and rub them together, and the central locking just pops right up.... probably. Doesn't need to make sense, just mass effect fields. Fixes any problem apart from Mess Sgt Gardner's cooking. :D

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Not only in space is vacuum scientists and NASA...etc have chambers in which they can create vacuum. ( they just give the air out ). about: I didn't see anything about me being outside the ship when I travel on it place to place :P : you see only a view from outside when you use relay...its short video which i have already shown in my first post. Yes there are particles in universe its called: vacuum energy but that is quantum physic... And no you cannot hear sound in space ( everywhere in space is vacuum, don´t mean planets witch atmosphere). So dont say you can hear sound in space when you dont believe just google it. About science fiction...Mass effect developers tried to do it the most realistic: for example I dont remember it very well but when they explained how does engine mechanism works in ships so they can fly in speed of light or higher ( dont remember) they said its reduce the weight of ship to 0. Which I think developers did very well because only photon can fly of speed of light because photon has no weight and exist only in move ( if you also dont believe google it ). So basicly engine creates from ships something like photon with no weight. The thing that matter with weight ( every matter in universe except photon ) cannot reach the speed of light is that if it would, it would has to have infinity weight. So I think developers created it very realistic. So i dont know why they added sound in space. Yes it would be very boring, in every film you hear sound in space because it would be very strange to see it without sound :D

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Frytak wrote...

So I think developers created it very realistic.


I don't think so, but I can't go into why without breaking the no spoilers rule. Let's just say I reckon they looked closely at celestial and orbital mechanics before deciding tossing the whole lot out of the nearest window, though I've come across at least one line of dialogue that suggests they knew what kind of stuff they were ignoring. But again, how boring would the game be if Joker started telling you that you have to wait to go from one planet to another in a system and started rattling on about transfer orbits. It'd be worse than driving the Mako around for twenty minutes to find a gold nugget and some long dead turian's necklace. Reality can be boring, I don't blame them for making their fiction a lot more fun.