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[111987]

Sorry guys, my response was intended to be sarcastic. I wasn't really suggesting Shepard survived re-entry.

[Adeph]

My take is the rest of the ending makes no sense why should this?

[savionen]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Easter Egg by the Developers to throw people a bone...

Shepard is dead ... no matter what you choose.

The space hamster is dead. Finding it again is just an easter egg.

[crimsontotem]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Easter Egg by the Developers to throw people a bone...

Shepard is dead ... no matter what you choose.

pretty expensive and wasteful Easter Egg since it's all fully cinematic don't you think?

[Dridengx]

Nighthunteer wrote...

Hey!

So, id like to know - everyone that refuses to belive the indoc theory,
How do you explain Shepard waking up in the concrete rubble?

Imo this is the only sure thing we have, everything else is just grasping at plausable to "prob not" straws. But this, I dont see how else it could be explained. Not even Bioware (Never thought i would say not even infront of BW, geez) would belive that he could make it to earth by falling, after being blown up

Specially after the kid told him he would die anyway!
If they wanted to make it belifeable that he surived the exoplosion, they would have shown him hovering in space, since he already walked in space between the citadel and the crucible - and instead of a breath perhaps a finger twitch.

Lets hear it!

Well, I'm not one to say anything about terrible spelling seeing how english is my 3rd language but I do find it funny that I spell better than people here who only know one language. Beliefable? exoplosion? what is that? I'm sorry, but if someone can't comprehend how to spell such easy words and notice them to correct them. I feel explaining theories with them is a lost cause in itself.

[Taleroth]

crimsontotem wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Easter Egg by the Developers to throw people a bone...

Shepard is dead ... no matter what you choose.

pretty expensive and wasteful Easter Egg since it's all fully cinematic don't you think?

It's 5 seconds long.

[chibilombax]

I thought for a moment "Maybe just his synthetics were destroyed so he wakes up a human again"

It's either that or the theory going around.

[Smiley556]

Timpe wrote...

PKchu wrote...

It's actually just Vega because Bioware didn't think the amount they trolled you was enough.

Then how do you explain that the breating body had more breast than Vega. Of course all this in case you gamed FemShep... Sorry, you were obviously trolling:whistle:

Please just disregard anyone saying there is a possibility it is not shepard. Again, there are 2 cinematics depending on wether you play male of female shepard, and they are named end03_shepard_alive_[gender]

[JPR1964]

It means nothing to me...

Just 5 second to unrealisticaly give hope to the player...

A true insult, no more...

JPR out!

Modifié par JPR1964, 14 mars 2012 - 10:11 .

[Rob_K1]

Fredvdp wrote...

The Citadel, a giant mass relay, shoots
Shepard to the nearst mass relay (the Conduit). Why? I guess the
Catalyst was in a good mood.

The destruction of synthetic life shouldn't kill Shepard because his implants aren't sentient.

Fred, the child says:

'Even you are partly synthetic'.

Therefore, it is implying that the destroy ending would kill him. It's clearly shown to not be the case. It calls everything the child says into question.

What the child says should not be taken at face value. And this is discounting everything else.

Modifié par Rob_K1, 14 mars 2012 - 10:10 .

[Thornquist]

The people who dont believe in the "Indoctrination" theory, me included, does so over completely different reasons.

Ahem:

Mass Effect is riddled with plot holes, as much other entertainment out there, I can list a few:

-Sovereign became useless because "space-kid" could just get the reapers from dark space.
-How did the reapers move the Citadel to earth?
-Why didnt the reapers focus on the Citadel in the first place? It was the most logical choice for the start of an invasion.
-Why arent the Protheans anything like the statues on Ilos, or the picture in the codex?

Yet, we all brush these plot-holes aside, because we know that the writers of Mass Effect are humans, and humans make mistakes.

The plot holes in the ending are just that, mistakes.

Modifié par Thornquist, 14 mars 2012 - 10:16 .

[Lordalif]

DrowNoble wrote...

The shephard breathing is just another of the many plot holes. Obviously he's alive but can't be on the Citadel since it just blew up. Course then, where is he? How did he get there?

That's why some are saying "it was just a dream", which would actually lead to a WORSE ending. If it was a dream, then shep didn't make it to the beam. No Crucible fired, no reapers dead, reapers win. So the Dream Theory is actually making the ending worse.

Remember people: HOLD THE LINE

The dream theory would be worse if you woke up before eden prime.

The Indroc theory only takes place over 15 mins of gameplay so Im all for it, however if true bioware have delievered terribley to their fans :/.

[DiebytheSword]

Thornquist wrote...

-Why arent the Protheans anything like the statues on Ilos, or the picture in the codex?

This was explained, Ilos was a world from the cycle before the Protheans, the statues are the Insuannon.  While they are obviously a retcon, it was a seamless and explained one.

[CasbynessPC]

Shepard wakes up for real after being hit by Harbinger. It was all a dream/near death experience.

[Thornquist]

DiebytheSword wrote...

Thornquist wrote...

-Why arent the Protheans anything like the statues on Ilos, or the picture in the codex?

This was explained, Ilos was a world from the cycle before the Protheans, the statues are the Insuannon.  While they are obviously a retcon, it was a seamless and explained one.

The DLC explained that one? Didnt get it.. Nvm that one then, the points still stand, however,

[Nighthunteer]

Dridengx wrote...

Nighthunteer wrote...

Hey!

So, id like to know - everyone that refuses to belive the indoc theory,
How do you explain Shepard waking up in the concrete rubble?

Imo this is the only sure thing we have, everything else is just grasping at plausable to "prob not" straws. But this, I dont see how else it could be explained. Not even Bioware (Never thought i would say not even infront of BW, geez) would belive that he could make it to earth by falling, after being blown up

Specially after the kid told him he would die anyway!
If they wanted to make it belifeable that he surived the exoplosion, they would have shown him hovering in space, since he already walked in space between the citadel and the crucible - and instead of a breath perhaps a finger twitch.

Lets hear it!

Well, I'm not one to say anything about terrible spelling seeing how english is my 3rd language but I do find it funny that I spell better than people here who only know one language. Beliefable? exoplosion? what is that? I'm sorry, but if someone can't comprehend how to spell such easy words and notice them to correct them. I feel explaining theories with them is a lost cause in itself.

To be honest, I was on a small 11 inch laptop at the time and the keyboard had, for some reason, 2 rows of extra
buttons at the side, that make the symmetry of writing way of.

That and i was in a hurry, my english writing is actually not below average

Modifié par Nighthunteer, 15 mars 2012 - 03:01 .

[pharsti]

Hm, i explain it with... shes alive.

As simple as that, she fell, with the rubble of the Citadel to earth, and she survived, yes she SURVIVED THAT. Why is that hard to believe? Youve got a deus ex machina, youve seen on ME2 that a bunch of humans can even bring back a dead person, a very dead person with simple science, and you fail to accept that she might have survived that?

I dont, hell, i find it hard to believe she died in any of the three magic endings, between the open endedness of the ending and some of the nonsensical things happening and the stargazer saying hell tell one more story about "the" Shepard.

[Nighthunteer]

pharsti wrote...

Hm, i explain it with... shes alive.

As simple as that, she fell, with the rubble of the Citadel to earth, and she survived, yes she SURVIVED THAT. Why is that hard to believe? Youve got a deus ex machina, youve seen on ME2 that a bunch of humans can even bring back a dead person, a very dead person with simple science, and you fail to accept that she might have survived that?

I dont, hell, i find it hard to believe she died in any of the three magic endings, between the open endedness of the ending and some of the nonsensical things happening and the stargazer saying hell tell one more story about "the" Shepard.

I would belive that, IF!! yes, IF! the rubble was actully part of the citadel and not broken buildings and roads.
And...no no no, I cant belive it to be true even if we got to see citadel rubble.

She / He had no helmet!! And if the idea is that the starkid or the citadel protects Shepard and allows him to breath in space during the "selection" event - after two giant explosions of fire in her / his face, negating both the starkid and the citadel.

There.is.no.way!

[Phydeaux314]

Taleroth wrote...

crimsontotem wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Easter Egg by the Developers to throw people a bone...

Shepard is dead ... no matter what you choose.

pretty expensive and wasteful Easter Egg since it's all fully cinematic don't you think?

It's 5 seconds long.

It's 22 seconds long!

/pedantry

[Catroi]

111987 wrote...

To be fair, Shepard's body did survive re-entry in ME2...

no he died, look at the videos in cerberus HQ, his brain was freaking dead, and he had a full armor+helmet in ME2

[Alexius]

No idea. Maybe I'd stop trying to find an explanation for the ending if that scene never happened. Which is kind of ironic, given the fact that it was there to make me feel a bit better, I guess.

[Nighthunteer]

Catroi wrote...

111987 wrote...

To be fair, Shepard's body did survive re-entry in ME2...

no he died, look at the videos in cerberus HQ, his brain was freaking dead, and he had a full armor+helmet in ME2

Indeed, the body was intact after re-entry - to a small moon i belive, nothing like Earth. No atmosphere or gravity, and a broken armor without a helmet can not be compared to ME 2.

Modifié par Nighthunteer, 16 mars 2012 - 12:56 .

[Zhor2395]

indoctrination of the player

[Nighthunteer]

Zhor2395 wrote...

indoctrination of the player

One can dream, one can dream...

[Lebrine]

Nighthunteer wrote...

Hey!

So, id like to know - everyone that refuses to belive the indoc theory,
How do you explain Shepard waking up in the concrete rubble?

Imo this is the only sure thing we have, everything else is just grasping at plausable to "prob not" straws. But this, I dont see how else it could be explained. Not even Bioware (Never thought i would say not even infront of BW, geez) would belive that he could make it to earth by falling, after being blown up

Specially after the kid told him he would die anyway!
If they wanted to make it belifeable that he surived the exoplosion, they would have shown him hovering in space, since he already walked in space between the citadel and the crucible - and instead of a breath perhaps a finger twitch.

Lets hear it!

well you cant quite see it but shepard is laying on top of a rather randy marauder