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[Spaceguy5]

CavScout wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

He crashed there.

He survived because Prangley erected a barrier when he was crashing to Earth.

Nice one, Prangley!

It's just some other random person.

And this is why people (like me) who support the indoc. theory - don't take people, who critize people like me for supporting the theory - serious.

They can't come up with a plausible answer.

I never saw a face. How do you know who it was?

The name of the cutscene is End03_Shepard_Alive_Male.bik (Or End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem.bik)

NOW WHAT?!

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

pharsti wrote...

CavScout wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

He crashed there.

He survived because Prangley erected a barrier when he was crashing to Earth.

Nice one, Prangley!

It's just some other random person.

And this is why people (like me) who support the indoc. theory - don't take people, who critize people like me for supporting the theory - serious.

They can't come up with a plausible answer.

I never saw a face. How do you know who it was?

Well, theres always the fact that theres a N7 dogtag, and better yet, the breath is clearly male on a HESHEP and Jennifer Hale on Shepard >_>

Yes, Mr. Meer makes me have an amazing disconnection between what im hearing and what im supposed to be feeling.

Meer actually did a pretty good job in ME3 though... just sayin'... and yeah I'm sure we can agree... smashed up armour + N7 dogtag = Shepard.

[pharsti]

MandatoryDenial1 wrote...

 Terrible writing, "hope," back door, or controversy; just pick one at this point It really doesn't matter anymore.  Enjoy the ride to the ending and alt +F4 when you get to the end honestly that is the only way to keep the ending from destroying your five year experience.

QFT

Get till Anderson, have you amazing talk, go watch this:



be somewhat satisfied.

[CavScout]

Spaceguy5 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

He crashed there.

He survived because Prangley erected a barrier when he was crashing to Earth.

Nice one, Prangley!

It's just some other random person.

And this is why people (like me) who support the indoc. theory - don't take people, who critize people like me for supporting the theory - serious.

They can't come up with a plausible answer.

I never saw a face. How do you know who it was?

The name of the cutscene is End03_Shepard_Alive_Male.bik (Or End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem.bik)

NOW WHAT?!

There still was no face, no positive identification in game. Sorry bro.

[shadey]

it's possible his body had adapted  to function on it's own with the initial modifications.

it's not like shepard was a cyborg, the ceberus process seemed like dead tissue regeneration process more than a total body reconstruction.

Modifié par shadey, 16 mars 2012 - 01:38 .

[Asuukuru]

Personally, I think the whole indoctrination theory is people trying to make sense of a poorly written ending. If you look at anything long enough, you can always make things fit in a semi-logical way. The theory just seems like people are just grasping at straws and holding onto that hope. I find it hard to believe a company like Bioware would intentionally troll their customers for a week and a half just because they can. People in general dont like to be trolled, so doing something like that would be a huge risk to take for almost no reward. I find it incredibly more likely that the ending simply is what it is, and they didnt expect this kind of reaction. Which is why they are taking so long to respond. As for the last breath of Shepard, it could be just that, last breath after killing the reapers.
As for the who else could it be, it could just as easily be James Vega, I havent heard anyone saying they saw him getting off the ship, and atleast in my playthrough, he takes a job with N7 special forces, so it could be a way of introducing him as a main character for future DLC, or a new game.

[Suntr0]

He took a magical white elevator.

[Spaceguy5]

CavScout wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

He crashed there.

He survived because Prangley erected a barrier when he was crashing to Earth.

Nice one, Prangley!

It's just some other random person.

And this is why people (like me) who support the indoc. theory - don't take people, who critize people like me for supporting the theory - serious.

They can't come up with a plausible answer.

I never saw a face. How do you know who it was?

The name of the cutscene is End03_Shepard_Alive_Male.bik (Or End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem.bik)

NOW WHAT?!

There still was no face, no positive identification in game. Sorry bro.

But BioWare quite blatantly put the name "Shapard" and "Alive" in the cutscene's name in the game files, so it's obviously intended to be Shepard |=... Plus when you consider that the smashed up armor looks the same as the smashed up armor Shepard wears after teh beamz....

[Shock n Awe]

Wattoes wrote...

crimsontotem wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Easter Egg by the Developers to throw people a bone...

Shepard is dead ... no matter what you choose.

pretty expensive and wasteful Easter Egg since it's all fully cinematic don't you think?

They want shepard to be dead, but they are also trying to avoid a s***storm.  They probably didn't want the crowd that section of people that demand shepard live to go crazy.

This way hes still dead, but they minimize complaining (at least about that small detail considering how awful everything else was).

Couldn't give a damn if Shepard lives at the end.  It would be nice, but so would an ending where he dies but the consequences of his actions are fully explained in terms of all the races that he had worked with, his friends on the Normandy (or in this case on Earth), and maybe a bit of generalized how-the-universe-is-doing stuff.

[revo76]

CavScout wrote...



There still was no face, no positive identification in game. Sorry bro.

you dont know face personalization is exist in ME series, do you ?

or you actually think they'll make thousands of blabla_alive videos for every unique face ?

[Uezurii]

Spaceguy5 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

He crashed there.

He survived because Prangley erected a barrier when he was crashing to Earth.

Nice one, Prangley!

It's just some other random person.

And this is why people (like me) who support the indoc. theory - don't take people, who critize people like me for supporting the theory - serious.

They can't come up with a plausible answer.

I never saw a face. How do you know who it was?

The name of the cutscene is End03_Shepard_Alive_Male.bik (Or End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem.bik)

NOW WHAT?!

There still was no face, no positive identification in game. Sorry bro.

But BioWare quite blatantly put the name "Shapard" and "Alive" in the cutscene's name in the game files, so it's obviously intended to be Shepard |=... Plus when you consider that the smashed up armor looks the same as the smashed up armor Shepard wears after teh beamz....

Not just that, but why show a "random N7" soldier at the end of the game? What's the point? Not to mention that the only iconic N7 character in the games is Shepard. 

[Liquoid]

CavScout wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

He crashed there.

He survived because Prangley erected a barrier when he was crashing to Earth.

Nice one, Prangley!

It's just some other random person.

And this is why people (like me) who support the indoc. theory - don't take people, who critize people like me for supporting the theory - serious.

They can't come up with a plausible answer.

I never saw a face. How do you know who it was?

The name of the cutscene is End03_Shepard_Alive_Male.bik (Or End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem.bik)

NOW WHAT?!

There still was no face, no positive identification in game. Sorry bro.

umad, get rinced.

[Shock n Awe]

Nefelius wrote...

Nighthunteer wrote...



The supposed sheilds that held in air for you to breath on surived the explosion of the citadel you mean, also - since the rubble is not hovering around i also assume it created gravity?

They did survive on another Starwizard's creation. The derelict Reaper, and there were gravity too.
And we didn't see the Citadel ripped to shreds. Just some explosions there and there.

 
Skip to 8:40ish.  Around 8:43 you see a massive explosion that rips the lower right arm off the Citadel (you can tell because the angle between it and the other arms begins changing as it floats).  If all the Relays exploded, the Citadel likely wood as well considering they're all Reaper tech.

The Derelict Reaper was technically "alive", I think it was compared to a coma victim or something.

Also, the Reapers didn't use concrete in any of their constructions that we've seen to date.  It's all Eezo and that white space metal they're so fond of.

Modifié par Shock n Awe, 16 mars 2012 - 01:58 .

[zarnk567]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

He crashed there.

He survived because Prangley erected a barrier when he was crashing to Earth.

Nice one, Prangley!

this was my guess

[Aurvant]

Still waiting on someone to explain to me how the control panel that controls the very threat of the galaxy managed to just sit out in the open all this time and nobody thought to investigate it.

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

CavScout wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

He crashed there.

He survived because Prangley erected a barrier when he was crashing to Earth.

Nice one, Prangley!

It's just some other random person.

And this is why people (like me) who support the indoc. theory - don't take people, who critize people like me for supporting the theory - serious.

They can't come up with a plausible answer.

I never saw a face. How do you know who it was?

The name of the cutscene is End03_Shepard_Alive_Male.bik (Or End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem.bik)

NOW WHAT?!

There still was no face, no positive identification in game. Sorry bro.

Right yeah because we see so many other N7 soldiers in the game... and of course they were a dime a dozen when Shepard was charging the Conduit... and it just so happens to be a random male N7 soldier if you play MaleShep and it's just a crazy coincidence that it's a female N7 soldier if you play FemShep..

yeah man for sure.

[Vergil_dgk]

Greed1914 wrote...

Still confused why Shepard lives in this option when the Catalyst says that the destroyed technology includes the very implants that brought him back to life. I'm not saying that the other two need to let Shepard live, I'm saying that having that result does not fit with what we were told.

Maybe the catalyst is a damned liar? I mean, he has killed billions, we just met him and he is the enemy. Why believe anything he says?

[MystaisPC]

 Crazy thing I noticed.  Watching that Shep breathing clip on full screen...as the camera pans up and left you can see what appears to be a piece of a Reaper beyond some rubble.  Looks to be a piece of a leg plate or something... very nice and smooth with a graceful curve and lines, definitely in contrast to the standard concrete rubble.  Could be part of the guardian that was protecting the light beam.  

Just something new to ponder, I suppose (shows how bored I am at work, heh).

At 4:38 ish
www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par MystaisPC, 16 mars 2012 - 02:06 .

[Nogthwai]

CavScout wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

He crashed there.

He survived because Prangley erected a barrier when he was crashing to Earth.

Nice one, Prangley!

It's just some other random person.

And this is why people (like me) who support the indoc. theory - don't take people, who critize people like me for supporting the theory - serious.

They can't come up with a plausible answer.

I never saw a face. How do you know who it was?

The name of the cutscene is End03_Shepard_Alive_Male.bik (Or End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem.bik)

NOW WHAT?!

There still was no face, no positive identification in game. Sorry bro.

If you choose this ending, your Citadel Save gets a Chapter Save Point with the flag "Lives to fight again". It also loads the corresponding video according to your own gender and the videos are called shepard_alive/dead and the armour damage is identical to the one of shepard. I'm sorry but this seems a bit much .   

[ShaneP]

The conduit beamed him back to earth after he chose to destroy the reapers. Simple really.

[CavScout]

Spaceguy5 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

Spaceguy5 wrote...

CavScout wrote...

v0rt3x22 wrote...

He crashed there.

He survived because Prangley erected a barrier when he was crashing to Earth.

Nice one, Prangley!

It's just some other random person.

And this is why people (like me) who support the indoc. theory - don't take people, who critize people like me for supporting the theory - serious.

They can't come up with a plausible answer.

I never saw a face. How do you know who it was?

The name of the cutscene is End03_Shepard_Alive_Male.bik (Or End03_Shepard_Alive_Fem.bik)

NOW WHAT?!

There still was no face, no positive identification in game. Sorry bro.

But BioWare quite blatantly put the name "Shapard" and "Alive" in the cutscene's name in the game files, so it's obviously intended to be Shepard |=... Plus when you consider that the smashed up armor looks the same as the smashed up armor Shepard wears after teh beamz....

They could've just shown your face...

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

ShaneP wrote...

The conduit beamed him back to earth after he chose to destroy the reapers. Simple really.

Nope he never went up.. the beam was way far back to where Shepard actually was and we see him get blown up if you pick the destroy ending.. also at that point he was "up" in space so how would he get down from "space" and make his way back to the beam before the Citadel blew up.. also, he wouldn't of been "beamed" under a bunch of rubble..

[SimonM72]

The only thing post Shepard breathing is the stargazer segment post-credits which reaffirms Shepard is considered a legend. But that could be many years in the future.
I'm naturally a sceptic but there are just too many coincidences mounting, Shepard is still alive in my opinion.
He was mortally wounded and never made it to the beam, the entire battle including him magically being blasted out of his armour but retaining a stock pistol is all in his imagination and is him laying there fighting off (or being tricked into succumbing to) the Indocrination.

Modifié par SimonM72, 16 mars 2012 - 02:16 .

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

CavScout wrote...

They could've just shown your face...

No they couldn't of because there is face customization and it's a rendered cutscene.. it isn't an "in game scene" which means they would have to make a different video for EVERY possible custom face..

[Neeh]

I think it's a dick move either way.

It's false hope and pointless, if it's nothing more than a tease.
And if it actually has a reason for being there, it barely make sense.

If they stick with the "Shep dies no matter what" idea, it's just salt, onions and other sour asortments in our wounds.