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[BramAlam12345]

Is the pickpocket bug you mention related to "successful" attempts that seem to give no loot? Because I have seen my share of that. It's kinda wierd.



Other than that, I love my little city elf rogue-girl. She badass.

[Ulrik the Slayer]

UlteriorModem wrote...
Then I started a second play through with a Dwarven Warrior and oh my gawd it was like taking off the shackles and seeing the light for the first time. The game is much much easier as a warrior.

...until you try the game as a Mage.

[Kailieann]

I always get coin or goods from stealing.

This hypothetical bug, is it console-only?

[Sero03]

i must admit, i havent seen a single item or coin from my "successful" steals. i'm on ps3

one thing i really dislike about this game. i wish it would list the item acquired at the bottom. i hate completing a quest or getting a quest. etc. and seeing "item received" then i get to go searching to see what i got..... h8~

Modifié par Sero03, 28 novembre 2009 - 05:20 .

[Spaceweed10]

Adamzen wrote...

be buged and glitched as f***. After learning that all those archery talents are worth jack and that daggers are useless unless used in a heavy cun+build i need to find out that stealing successes actually fill my pockets with air... what the f***?
Is "Rogue" the new synonym for "gimped warrior with only 1-2 talent/skill specs worth investing in" in the DOA universe?

Whaaaambulance?

[BooPi]

I'm currently playing a rogue assasin/duelist, mix-and-matching archery and DW talents. I thought it would be ineffective to spread my talents around so much, but it's actually really, really good.



Every fight, I can lead off with a stealth crit, arrow of slaying, crit arrow, then another stealth crit, then switch to dual weild and do stun poison, stun traps, dirty fighting, and riposte for almost continuous stuns/backstabs until arrow of slaying comes back up. For crowds, I maxed out poison crafting and always have 20+ AoE bombs ready to use, usually in 4 categories so I can chain them for a quick 400+ AoE damage.



And with such a high dex score, and combat stealth, my main character almost never dies, despite almost always having agro because of his insane damage. I'm no slouch at micromanagement, and I used a Morrigan nuker setup, but my main character rogue still averaged 40-60% of party damage throughout the campaign.



To put it another way, I got mana clash for Morrigan because of so many 2+ mage fights in the later parts of the game. I regretted it afterward, though, because my rogue would kill even orange mages before Morrigan could get the spell off, even using pause religiously.



A disclaimer: I'm using the dex bug hotfix with shortbows.

[Cydz]

my dual wield pc rogue stands for 52% of the party dmg. He is in his current state (lvl16) doing 3-4x the dmg my 2h warrior did on lvl 20+. using sword+dagger non dex fix.

[daem3an]

Sero03 wrote...

i must admit, i havent seen a single item or coin from my "successful" steals. i'm on ps3

one thing i really dislike about this game. i wish it would list the item acquired at the bottom. i hate completing a quest or getting a quest. etc. and seeing "item received" then i get to go searching to see what i got..... h8~

I haven't seen this bug on the pc, although sometimes it's hard to figure out what you've received. As mentioned above, if you already have a stack of the item in question, it won't go to the top of the list even if you have it sorted by 'newest'.

[MGeezer]

I suspect people who don't know how to spell rogue probably have trouble playing one. Seriously, OP edit your title to get the spelling right.

[UlteriorModem]

Ulrik the Slayer wrote...

UlteriorModem wrote...
Then I started a second play through with a Dwarven Warrior and oh my gawd it was like taking off the shackles and seeing the light for the first time. The game is much much easier as a warrior.

...until you try the game as a Mage.

Thats what I understand in fact thats one of the reasons I choose not to play mage. I dont even take Morrigan with me most of the time.

[Sylixe]

Adamzen wrote...

be buged and glitched as f***. After learning that all those archery talents are worth jack and that daggers are useless unless used in a heavy cun+build i need to find out that stealing successes actually fill my pockets with air... what the f***?
Is "Rogue" the new synonym for "gimped warrior with only 1-2 talent/skill specs worth investing in" in the DOA universe?

First thing you have to stop doing is Min/Maxing your characters stats.  That right off will hurt you big time since ALL stats affect a character in some way.  dumping into cunning isn't going to make you a god of cunning.

Daggers are NOT the be all end all weapons for a rogue and DAO is trying hard to break that mold.  Try a variety of combo's and you will see rogues can do a tremendous amount of dmg quickly.  Rogues easily have the largest weapon drop pool to pick from in game.  In my first run through i had about 20 weapons in my storage chest for a combat rogue that i never used. 

Modifié par Sylixe, 28 novembre 2009 - 06:35 .

[DaeFaron]

Towards the end you even pick up an axe that is rogue only.

[F-C]

rogues probably offer more variety in their stat builds than the other characters.



i mean with a warrior its pretty much get the str for massive armor, the minimum dex for skills, then stack willpower for stamina. you wont really deviate from that build very much.



with a mage its just stack magic and get enough willpower to cast a few spells while maintaining whatever persistent spells you use, then use mana pots like a madman.



with a rogue you actually have a choice. you can go with lethality and go with a high cunning build, or you can go with a str build for large weapons. you can go with a higher dex build and be good at archery, daggers, and even being able to perform as a mini-tank... you will still need to stack willpower for stamina with your points after you get the stats for gear, but you actually have a choice on how to spread your stats.



rogues also provide some really unique tools like pickpocket, opening locks, disarming traps, and stealth opens up a whole new playstyle no other class offers.





if any class needs some things added to it so its more interesting it would be warriors. i think warriors are good and fun, there isnt really much wrong with them, but compared to rogues and mages they arnt very flashy or unique.

[Sylixe]

They should allow some of the skills to condense down for a pure rogue as well. There's just so many things you really could use for a combat rogue that you either have to wait for much later or you never get. When i played through as a tank i had points lying around or put into things i didn't really want or need.

[DaeFaron]

That is why you have a rogue use something like (LONGSWORDS), and get the skill that replaces strength with cunning.

[F-C]

or just get the dex hotfix. ive been using it, and while it does make enemy archers a threat i have already adapted to it. all it really does is move them up the priority list of what needs to be killed.



without the fix my priority was usually mages>melee>archers , after the fix it changed to mages>archers>melee.



its not that big of a deal.

[Adamzen]

Anzurok wrote...

This "Community" has gone WAY downhill since EA Games took over.

Well at least these forums have a great build-in w***er filter. Every time i see a post beginning with "L2P" or with flames on typing mistakes i know there's no point in reading on cause those fellas have nothing to say at all (besides that they need some love...maybe? I dunno know and don't want to, to be honest)

[kroosaydur]

Godeshus wrote...

Warriors and rogues are all useles.

[DaeFaron]

Ah, but your dex fix does nothing for us who play it on 360 lol.