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 this is for helping me pick a origins for my second playthrough and plus i wish to know what others thought were good :)

pretty much i loved the City Elf story  origin and now that im on my second playthrough which out of these two should i play next?

Human Noble?
Mage Tower?

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Honestly, they are all fantastic and I had a blast with each one. They totally change your perspective as you play through the game. I would say my favourites are a tie between the City Elf origin and the Noble Dwarf origin (and I don't even really like playing as a dwarf - but that origin story is fantastic). I also really love the mage origin, and just playing as a mage in general is so much fun. And the human noble origin was also really so good - and so touching. Ironically, my very first playthrough was as a Dalish Elf and that is probably now my least favourite origin, but I still enjoyed that one too. They each have unique things about them that carry over into the rest of the game and make them each worthwhile to try at least once.

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Kavatica wrote...

Honestly, they are all fantastic and I had a blast with each one. They totally change your perspective as you play through the game. I would say my favourites are a tie between the City Elf origin and the Noble Dwarf origin (and I don't even really like playing as a dwarf - but that origin story is fantastic). I also really love the mage origin, and just playing as a mage in general is so much fun. And the human noble origin was also really so good - and so touching. Ironically, my very first playthrough was as a Dalish Elf and that is probably now my least favourite origin, but I still enjoyed that one too. They each have unique things about them that carry over into the rest of the game and make them each worthwhile to try at least once.


totally if this was just another RPG i might not even play this game again the origins storys just make me want to know how every thing is gonna end up and see what happens and you didn't like the Dalish Elf story that much? how was it i was going to pick that one but since i already played as an elf i wanted to play as a human or a dwarf

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It's not that I didn't like it - I did. It's that I liked some of the other origins more.

You don't even want to know how many times I have played this game through. It is disturbing. I stopped looking at the time spent for each character because, well...embarrassing. But that's what makes it so good. And you can still uncover new things after several playthroughs.

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Dwarf Noble and Human Noble are both great. DN origin is a blast and provides a lot of insight into dwarven culture and politics - and also gives you greater perspective on the Harrowmont vs. Bhelen conflict from later on. I also personally like how your character is already a proven leader and warrior, and has first-hand experience with the darkspawn prior to ever joining the Wardens.

HN origin is probably the most emotionally investing (for me at least) - you don't get to know the Couslands for long - but by the end of the origin you care about them and their fate, and want to wreak glorious vengeance on Howe for his treachery. It's also far more well-integrated into the main plot than other origins are IMHO, and honestly almost seems like the "canon" origin.

Also, the DE origin has its merits - it contains a lot of important information about the Eluvians and the ancient elves, some of which might have serious repercussions on the story later on in the series. I'd play through the origin at least just to check it out - but I wouldn't go through the entire game as a DE as it doesn't integrate very well with the main story IMHO.

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Dalish Elf is fantastic if you want to play an outsider. It doesn't have as many obvious hooks into the main plot as most of the other origins, but "Nature of the Beast," the Dalish treaty quest, feels completely different. The clan is much more welcoming of you, and you can even learn why Hahren Sarel behaves like such a schmuck. And the Witch Hunt DLC provides some really nice closure for that origin, albeit not in the main game.

Dwarf Commoner is my other favorite. It has a lot in common with City Elf, thematically - you're a poor commoner in a slum scraping to get by. But you're scraping even harder than the City Elf (instead of a loving family and a marriage, your mother is a nasty drunkard and you're a mob boss's thug), you get awesome dwarven culture, and a heaping helping of personalized content when you go back to Orzammar. It's the raggiest to the richest origin.

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The Cousland Human Noble is the obvious Fav. for a lot of people.


When I first got the game I played through all the origins. I like the mage origin too. I think there was a riddle with a bear or something.

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cJohnOne wrote...

The Cousland Human Noble is the obvious Fav. for a lot of people.


When I first got the game I played through all the origins. I like the mage origin too. I think there was a riddle with a bear or something.


Yes, the sloth spirit riddle! That was so fun. 

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greengoron89 wrote...

Dwarf Noble and Human Noble are both great. DN origin is a blast and provides a lot of insight into dwarven culture and politics - and also gives you greater perspective on the Harrowmont vs. Bhelen conflict from later on. I also personally like how your character is already a proven leader and warrior, and has first-hand experience with the darkspawn prior to ever joining the Wardens.

HN origin is probably the most emotionally investing (for me at least) - you don't get to know the Couslands for long - but by the end of the origin you care about them and their fate, and want to wreak glorious vengeance on Howe for his treachery. It's also far more well-integrated into the main plot than other origins are IMHO, and honestly almost seems like the "canon" origin.

Also, the DE origin has its merits - it contains a lot of important information about the Eluvians and the ancient elves, some of which might have serious repercussions on the story later on in the series. I'd play through the origin at least just to check it out - but I wouldn't go through the entire game as a DE as it doesn't integrate very well with the main story IMHO.


Completely agree with all of this. Actually, the DE origin does have some really interesting bits later - especially around Tamlen and if you played as a female DE that makes it even more interesting. And obviously lines up nicely with some of the things that happen in DA2. 

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Dalish Elf was the first one I played, and seeing Tamlen again still makes me sad even after multiple playthroughs. It was really a kick in the teeth the first time around since I did the Urn quest before getting the attack on the camp. I love the closure you get in Witch Hunt, and one of my favorite conversations in that DLC is specific to that origin. "If you could go back, would you? Would you turn down being the Hero of Ferelden?"

I love the City Elf origin, and it has one of my favorite moments in the game when the female PC is cornered by two guards. Soris walks in with a crossbow and slides a sword across the floor to her, and the guards both go, "Oh, crap." I was grinning like a maniac. Vaughan either dies or gets robbed of 40 sovereigns and left in his cell on every playthrough.

And, of course, the Human Noble origin which also still makes me sad. Thanks to that, I feel the urge to punch Arl Howe whenever he appears on the screen, even when I'm playing a different background. And there's nothing better than Shield Bashing him in the face with the Cousland family shield.

For whatever reason, I couldn't really get into the Dwarven Noble story, but I did enjoy the constant "Gorim. why is this man speaking to me?" dialog options. I enjoyed being a Dwarf Commoner, but then freaked out when I got to Ostagar and realized exactly how short my character was compared to everyone else. Which is incredibly shallow of me! :wizard:

Mage Origin is worth it for Witch Hunt alone: "Some of the apprentices now use [Jowan's] name to describe dangerous schemes with little chance of success." And Finn makes the greatest face when he realizes the Warden is "the Grey Warden mage! The hero!" I'm tempted to post that screenshot.

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Mage elf. Double cursed and yet he became a hero to which nobles had to bow.
Plus I like that I don't know anything about his family, so I can role play him whichever way I want. All that is known is that the Warden was Irving's personal apprentice - meaning the best in Ferelden. :) And I love how easily I can solve some problems just by saying "You're talking to a mage. Care to rephrase that?" :D

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The ones I like the most are:

Dwarf Noble offers great opportunities to make decisions that say interesting and cool things about your PCs character
CE and HN do a good job of giving emotional involvement

The ones I'm less keen on are:
DC feels quite restrictive to me.
DE I feel focuses too much on culture and not enough on character. So it lacks emotional engagement.
Mage has annoying railroading. I don't want to help Jowan's plans, so I'm forced into betraying it.

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As for me the ones i liked most:

number 1 : the city elf.Ever since i saw the art of the elven bride i wanted to play one and boy did it deliver.For the first time my poor elven bride woke up i loved her.When she chopped of Vaugh's head i cheered loudly grinning wickedly.loved it.
Number 2: shared between the Dwarven noble and the Dwarven commoner.I loved both of these still haven't been able to figure out which i like better from Gorim to Rika who meet up.To Bhelen's betray and the classic fight as that noble brunk as the Commoner lots of fun and fistpumping.

And now the ones i liked but didn't love:

Number 4
The Dalish elf.One thing i always found odd was the fact that the Dalish elf got sivk and come along to the Shemlen go go go go ahh well still enjoyed it as Lyna Mahariel who oddly became my Canon Warden Commander.

Number 5 :
The Human Noble : Now don't get me wrong i liked the story in the Origin but i didn't "bond"with the Noble's family i just went heh and the fact that got to me was that You couldn't spit on Howe's corpe when you killed him later on in the game.i know odd but that's how i felt

and my least liked origin story : The Mage
Just hated Jowan and the railroading in the story.

Hmmm....

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The human mage origin, because that was my first expereience ever with Dragon Age. Kind of a lame reason I know, but nothing can top your first encounter with something epic. The Dalish elf origin is also very good.

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 City Elf is still my favourite. I can't say how much of that is because it's the first I played, but I so far do like how it fits in with the story the most. I suppose mostly this is just because it's the origin from which I've ended up with the best developed character so far - could be coincidence, of course. Perhaps oddly, I prefer the male version. I think it's because I prefer doing the breaking in to rescue as opposed to doing the breaking out.

I also like the Dalish Elf and Mage origins, though not as much. I wasn't particularly fond of the Human Noble - not quite sure why - and I haven't yet played either Dwarf origin far enough into the game to say for sure how they end up. I like the Dwarf Noble within the origin, certainly, but I haven't yet had one make it back to Orzammar, so I can't say how much I like that part. Dwarf Commoner is the only one I haven't done yet. I expect I'd like it, but I just haven't had a good character concept to try it out with yet (I'm poor at coming up with dwarf concepts). 

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I have to agree with most of the above posters, Dwarf Noble and City Elf are the strongest origins. First time around I booted up a Dalish Elf (very stereotypical, but I can't help but love wood elves...) and that has actually become my least favourite: not bad, but I think Bioware just paraded characters in front of you and said "you care about these people" rather than leading us into the caring as they do in the other stories.

I wish there was an alternative for mages: apostate mage, hunted by the Templars, only to be conscripted by Duncan would be amazing.

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It's notable how many started DAO with a "wood elf" type and ended up liking it least. Wood elves should rule! I would have played it first myself except that I'd seen playthroughs on YouTube and thought so ill of it that I didn't play DAO itself until only recently. It's not that it's offensive, just dreadfully dull. Every character is generic like a bad reenactment in a museum exhibit. It's supposed to give the sense of deep lore possessed by the elves, but it just seems like flat ear city elves with a forest fetish, a belabored set of largely irrelevant codex entries, and a thing for calling people shemlens. Elves aren't supposed to be so shallow. The only things I really like are the raspy voice of the female mage companion who comes in later- though it would've been better in a human or dwarf- and the ruins scenery (done twice??) with the reference to architecture shared by both humans and elves, hinting at some earlier era of cooperation and harmony- a theme that then goes entirely undeveloped.

It's very close between the city elf and dwarf commoner for my favorite, but it goes to the DC. Both are the "start from nothing and turn the tide using wits and skill" type which I prefer- though given how the dwarf noble ends up, stripped of everything and tossed to the Deep Roads wolves with nothing but a sword, it could count belatedly as such.

The city elf origin seems to give more XP opportunity to a male since you get to kill all those guards and mabari outside first, but it's most compelling storywise to play as a female. Yeah, the "Oh, crap" of the guards when you pick up a sword is great! Plus the dismembering of them... Can't say how much I love how my city elf girl moves room to room slaughtering every scumbag, reveling when she decapitates Vaughan. (Done that more than once...) I also bond with Cousin Shianni the Tough Girl and like the setting a lot, but it involves taking 2nd fiddle to humans, doesn't have particularly well-written or well-voiced characters, and ends with little interest in the "return" story since, well, either you're a scum who took the money and ran or you've ended the matter, moved on, and now Howe will later remove that family from power anyway.

The dwarf stories, on the other hand, have the immersion aspect of being thoroughly dwarven, thoroughly not-"surfacer," and independent of the humans- no "Maker" or Chantry references, no banns, just the stone, the social morays, and the history of the thaigs and paragons. It's well-written for what it is, Leske is great (even though he's a stinkin' turncoat), and the colloquialisms are fun. I can identify with the character, revel in her three defiances of Beraht, and then later revel in walking back into town as the infamous, but reluctantly-exalted Duster they thought they could ignore and forget, defying all tradition, precedent, and expectations of the "casteless." Plus even as I save the day, I'm still a thieving scoundrel just like the guards continue to say even after I'm a Warden... lol Good stuff.

The DN also has Gorim who is written and voiced fairly well, and there is a lot of involved storyline for that return too obviously, but I just don't have the same empathy for nobles. Your every conversation choice is just, "be civil or be a royal ass?" And the conniving and plotting and such at the top just aren't as emboldening as rising from the bottom. For creativity and a well-thought-out storyline that lasts from origin to end, it's still very good.

The mage story isn't bad either, even if "railroaded..." and what origin story isn't railroaded linearly? I like the Harrowing story, the Fade intro (though it'd be nicer with something more preceding it), and even the Jowan story. I just grew weary of Jowan's voice- which is everywhere in NPCs left and right. They should rename Lothering as Jowaning where a Chasind and a farmer can yell at each other in the same whiny voice. Now when I do the mage story I always strip Jowan of any staff or tactics and let him be the "tank," taking all the beatings. lol Stripping the two of them and then emerging naked from the basement naked produces the dialogue choice: "This looks bad..." lol I like the idea of the apostate mage hunted by Templars. That would be good. The best alternative mage origin available is a modded Dalish Mage origin which essentially is the DE origin with a Tevinter robed Dalish mage. I'll be doing that one soon...

The human story is endearing for fighting beside Mom for a bit and the leaving her there to ensure your survival, leaving just enough emotional appeal to need to kill Howe- and the battles are tactically interesting. Otherwise it's a bit on the lame side: even a "rats in the cellar" battle... I'm not fond of dogs. You get to take an elf girl to bed... only for her to be one-shotted moments later (so much for seeing her later in the game). Everyone's a dull-witted noble hack, father barking orders, not particularly engaging to me... and then everything and everyone is obliterated, nothing to return to or look for, just a guy to kill off... who you kill off the same way with any origin story because, well, he's one of the chief nasties. There was talk of a "commoner" human origin story in Redcliff, I believe, so that might have been more interesting.

All that said though, I keep playing characters in all the origin stories just because they're all fun to play...

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Purely going on Origins, (entirely ignoring anything taking place after the origin story), I really enjoyed the Dwarf Noble. You actually felt like a noble, as opposed to the Human Noble. I felt that the Human Noble fit more into the grand scheme of things, what with Howe not only killing your family but being Loghain's right hand. It was far more satisfying to kill him as a Human Noble than as any other origin.

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dwarf commoner

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That is a really great question and it's difficult to answer because all of the origins are amazing in some way.


My favorite is by far the City Elf Origin, not only on a personal level since I grew up poor and Jewish, but on a role playing level because I feel it's one of the most dramatic and emotionally charged origins in the game. Not only do you have to live with personal attacks due to your race and class, but you're also hit on an altruistic level since your family and community are constantly subjugated, abused, raped and killed by humans (both physically and metaphorically). 


The Dwarf Commoner is the most underrated because it can be very interesting and complex. You’re just as poor and downtrodden as city elves (if not more so) but you don’t have the luxury of a loving family or close community to make up the difference. The characters are awesome too—I think Rica and Leske are some of the best NPC’s in any origin and your dialogue options with them show some of the most versatile role playing options in the game. =) 


I also love the Mage Origin, which I honestly think has some of the best role playing potential, especially as an elf. Since elven protagonists get the least amount of background details (as of Amell’s backstory in DA2), with the most options of where they can be from (Lothering, Highever, Denerim, or somewhere else), you can let your imagination run wild and fill in your character's background on how they grew up to be who hthey are today. It's also fun to make the most hated character in the game.


EDIT: I love the Dalish way more now that I’ve done more research on the Elvish language, religion, history and culture, which helps to understand where they're coming from and imagine how your character became who they are. But in terms of characterization, relationships and role playing value? Compared to many of the others, it still gets the short end of the stick. (Which is too bad, because it has so much potential. So much wasted potential. )=


The Human Noble and Dwarf Noble origins honestly do the least for me.

Modifié par Faerunner, 29 juin 2012 - 05:39 .


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My favorite is the first one I played, the Human Noble origins. (Spoilers) You get to care about the Couslands, and the visiting family (can't remember who they are), and even Ser Gilmore. And you even have some respect for Howe (that's just me). And then...Howe betrays you and almost everyone dies, and the only reason you escape is because Duncan sort of had to drag you out. It ties well into the main story, and you have a more personal reason to hate Howe and go after him.

My second favorite is the elf mage origin. I just liked this because you're the outcast of outcasts. Not only are you a mage, but you're also an elf. That just makes you even less liked and you feel that much more accomplished when you defeat the Blight and become the Hero of Fereldan. Plus you get to learn Jowan's backstory firsthand, and you feel much more sorry for him when you find him in Redcliffe.

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I liked the human noble origin. Seeking vengeance for a slaughtered family might be about as old a fantasy cliche as there is, but it's a good one and really provided a strong secondary purpose throughout a lot of the game. Killing Howe was in some ways even more satisfying than taking down the archdemon.

But they're all good. Would have liked a non-noble human origin.

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I'd say Human Noble ties into the overall plot the most. My personal favorite is the City Elf especially if you're a female.

Both Dwarf origins are excellent. Mage is alright and I never got into the Dalish one too much.

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Story-wise, I'm really fond of the City Elf origin.

My most-played origin is the Mage origin, though, even though I don't like it much (really, it's not that bad; it just gets old after the fourth time) but I love playing mages.

I think I'd like both of the Dwarf origins a lot if I had played them more than once each; they were interesting, but I just don't like playing dwarves...

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I played dwarven commoner on my first playtrhough, and I still like that origin the best. Here's how I would rank the origin stories, in order of my personal preference:

1. Dwarven commoner
2. Dwarven noble
3. City Elf (better with a female character, I think.)
4. Human noble
5. Mage
6. Dalish elf

None of the origins are bad, and I enjoyed them all. I really loved Orzammar as the starting location - I thought both dwarven origins were very well written.