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[ViperAlvein]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

actually almost noone cares, and they won't change anything.

40,000 people and 45k dollars in donations disagrees with you

The charity is a way of channelling our frustrations into something good, not something to hold over people, I respectfully ask you to remember that.

[unclee]

Thanks for coming here to post and weather the abuse Mr. Woo.

I would like to say one thing: I do believe that the people here are the vocal minority (and I think everyone knows that most of the time we are), but in this case I know at least 5-6 people (all of whom I proudly introduced to Mass Effect!) who are avid Mass Effect fans, played the game, LOVED every single minute of it and then did a complete 180 when they got to the last 10 minutes. They've all told me that they really don't even want to play the game again because of it.

Problem is, all of them are unlikely to post here and vote in the poll or even post on the ME Facebook/Twitter. They're just as upset about the ending though.

Again, I'll readily admit we're the vocal minority 99% of the time, but how can people like my friends be represented in the feedback you fine Bioware folks look at? I wouldn't speak for everyone, but I'm sure there are a lot of people here who know people exactly like I've just described.

[TheJiveDJ]

Darkwingduck wrote...

So Mr. Woo would I be correct in assuming that at the moment Bioware isn't prepared to respond to anything because they are building a consensus? Could I then illogically conclude that Bioware are geth?...I freakin knew it!

*dramatic look* Mother of God....

Modifié par TheJiveDJ, 15 mars 2012 - 03:25 .

[Stanley Woo]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Yes, we/I understand you will listen but will you respond to the dissent?

I repeat:

Even if we don't respond immediately or to your satisfaction, BioWare
appreciates its fanbase--all of it, even the part of it taking a break
from BioWare games--and the feedback it provides. We will not always
agree, and you will not always like what we do, but that's not going to
stop us from striving to do better in the future.

[Memengwa]

The page that explains the best what is wrong is this -
www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

I spent maybe 30 minutes explaining what I love about this company and about the games. That I absolutelly loved them untill the end (and how much I was surprised by the end), but I stoped myself realising that you've already seen that from a lot of players (and erased it all).

That link summarises everything, for most of us. Read it, think on it, reply on it. That's all we want. Now, you can ignore the playerbase and your biggest fans as whiners that want to have rainbows and babies with our LI, or you can think that we're fanboys that think that we know the game and the universe better than you do. But I promis you, at least I'm not one of them.

Own it Mr Woo, or whoever it is that is supposed to answer to this.

Modifié par Memengwa, 15 mars 2012 - 03:27 .

[Agarcn]

Now for my actual question Mr. Woo is there any news about a press release in the coming weeks/months about any sort added content (multiplayer and otherwise). If you cant give me a definite answer i understand.

[Teleraine]

Actually one great thing I can say about ME 3 in Particular is the soundtrack was just stunning, much kudos there

. Will. Not Mention. Endings ----Willpower.

[LegendaryBlade]

The real question is, what does Mr. Woo think about the endings himself, and has he seen all the videos and comments blatantly laying out the plotholes and logical errors in the ending? The contradiction to lore and the problems people have? I think that's something he can answer.

[TheBigShinz]

I myself would enjoy an alternate ending, but come on guys, it's one thing to ask questions but bashing the devs when they dont HAVE to listen at all isnt going to get anyone anywhere.I commend stanley for responding to this forum and all the others that are reasonable and civil about the manner.

[Lord Costantino]

NewUszi wrote...

Do people really feel entitled to BW employees coming onto the forums and interacting with them? Are they aware there are plenty of developers who flat out refuse to engage their player base at all?

http://jeff-vogel.bl...ould-never.html

When you are part of a Supply and demand economy then yes they are. If people are unhappy with the purchase they are allowed to to go directly to the producer to try to get it changed. With the amount of people saying that the endings are bad are not wrong. If you are happy with the end, good for you but the majority don't like them for a multitude of reasons.

[PiEman]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Yes, we/I understand you will listen but will you respond to the dissent?

I repeat:

Even if we don't respond immediately or to your satisfaction, BioWare
appreciates its fanbase--all of it, even the part of it taking a break
from BioWare games--and the feedback it provides. We will not always
agree, and you will not always like what we do, but that's not going to
stop us from striving to do better in the future.

No they don't, not anymore...

[cinderburster]

TheJiveDJ wrote...

Darkwingduck wrote...

So Mr. Woo would I be correct in assuming that at the moment Bioware isn't prepared to respond to anything because they are building a consensus? Could I then illogically conclude that Bioware are geth?...I freakin knew it!

*dramatic look* Mother of God....

I don't know, I always had a soft spot for the Geth.

Even in ME1.

[DigitalMaster37]

Teleraine wrote...

Actually one great thing I can say about ME 3 in Particular is the soundtrack was just stunning, much kudos there

. Will. Not Mention. Endings ----Willpower.

Oh God yes, I just made a thread about it here http://social.biowar...1#9970759 ]here[/url]

[Farbautisonn]

[Cut it out.]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 15 mars 2012 - 03:33 .

[Arlind Webb]

Stanley...Since you mentioned that our poll is only a small portion of the community, why not do one of two things, place an official poll on the mass effect site/front page asking peoples thoughts on the ending OR e-mail the registered owners of ME3 some kind of survey like the ones done on many games in the past? I remember just seeing one not to long ago from SWTOR like this. Would be very cool in my book.

For the record I love the series immensely, just the ending of ME3 was a shocker. (in a bad way)

[the red boon]

I honestly feel relief that you responded to this and seeing your posts make me have a little faith back into bioware after the massive disappointment the endings gave me. Don't think of me as someone just complaining I honestly was crushed by the ending since the game built me up so much till that point.

[TheJiveDJ]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Yes, we/I understand you will listen but will you respond to the dissent?

I repeat:

Even if we don't respond immediately or to your satisfaction, BioWare
appreciates its fanbase--all of it, even the part of it taking a break
from BioWare games--and the feedback it provides. We will not always
agree, and you will not always like what we do, but that's not going to
stop us from striving to do better in the future.

Am I to assume that you do NOT like waffles? 

BSN doesn't take kindly to waffle haters.  What did they ever do anyone?

[Stanley Woo]

TheJiveDJ wrote...

But then that sets the expectation that you're a smart aleck!  What if you cease to be one!!  Then you've let us down and we're all going to go into fan-rage mode and DEMAND that you return to being a smart aleck!!  lol

If you must know, I generally have a volus avatar. He's Paragon Stan. The Death's Hand avatar is Renegade Stan.

[LegendaryBlade]

ViperAlvein wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

BuffPhantoms wrote...

actually almost noone cares, and they won't change anything.

40,000 people and 45k dollars in donations disagrees with you

The charity is a way of channelling our frustrations into something good, not something to hold over people, I respectfully ask you to remember that.

I think you misunderstood, I don't mean to hold it over anybody.I just mean that it shows that we're here, and that we aren't'nobody'. The people, the donations, the FB page and the poll. These are all very real things. I meant 'disagree with you' in the sense that he said nobody cared. We care.

[dragonage200200]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Agarcn wrote...

Mr. Woo i have to say i have gained a great amount of respect for you taking all this abuse from people That aside i think the big frustration people are having right now is people wanting clear answers when in a corporate world you can not give one unless you are given permission from the higher ups. Which i assume you have not been given any statement to give at this point in time. Again i say Bravo Mr. Woo bravo.

I've been abused on the forum before. This isn't even close to it. The vast majority of folks here have been very reasonable and have asked good questions. It's this kind of environment that attracts developers to participate in discussions, so the more threads the community creates that are as mature and civil as this one is, the more likely it is that developers (and jerks like me and John Epler) will want to come chat.

Hence, why you don't see them commenting on the  threads that are that are nothing but ALL CAPS RAGE ON THE ENDINGS( plus there are about 100 of them on the forums by now....). Atleast that what I got from his post. 

[Darth Malignus]

Teleraine wrote...

Actually one great thing I can say about ME 3 in Particular is the soundtrack was just stunning, much kudos there

. Will. Not Mention. Endings ----Willpower.

I actually enjoyed ME1's soundtrack more. Not that it's an attempt to bash ME3's soundtrack which was fine, but I was fuming when I realised that the hands down best piece of background music in ME1 wasn't on the OST.

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Darth Malignus, 15 mars 2012 - 03:31 .

[OniRogue]

I am as passionate as many of you fine people here about the Ending (No reason to deny it when I Link to my opinion in my Sig ^^) but please cut Moderators a break...

Engaging in conversation is fine and dandy, but they are not able to officially comment on anything that isn't approved by the upper brass as far as I know. But Please add your concerns to the existing Ending Threads

OR Use this chance to cool your heads and make some children happy! (Pointing to the Child's Play Thread)

[WarBaby2]

Stanley Woo wrote...
BioWare listens to all feedback when we release games. Not just those praising our games, and not just those who have issues and concerns with our games. We don't listen only to our community, or only to popular websites. Even if we don't respond immediately or to your satisfaction, BioWare appreciates its fanbase--all of it, even the part of it taking a break from BioWare games--and the feedback it provides. We will not always agree, and you will not always like what we do, but that's not going to stop us from striving to do better in the future. And we hope that, like us or not, you will come along for the ride because, hey, we might make something you'll really like next time. You are always welcome.

Perfect PR... you know, I am aware there are alteast 1000 business rules against it, but for once you (and some other companies too) should really concider dropping the mask and REALLY talk to your customers... I still can remember a time when you called a company on the phone and NOT had to put up with an automatic response or an outsourced  callcenter in Poland. Loosing touch to the faceless masses that buy your stuff was the beginning of the end of global industry... and it will all come crashing down someday.

Sorry, barking at the wrong tree... we, of course, aprecheate the time and affort. :innocent:

[Sky Shadowing]

I can respect your decision to not comment. I, too, have suffered under the things known as 'NDAs', and I can respect treading very carefully to not say too much.

I think one thing EVERYONE can agree on is that it's a great thing that Mass Effect fans ARE so passionate about the game to get so worked up. It should make BioWare very proud that the games they crafted stir up such emotions.

That said, it does remain a shame that we feel the endings are not up to the quality we are used to from a company with the stature of BioWare. With ME1 and ME2, we sort of expected it- we both knew there were later games coming. But all indications (apart from a few vague hints) have been that ME3 is the final game. While I have faith BioWare isn't going to die, we just would like closure, or the promise of closure in the future.

For my part, I am well aware that I have no right to demand you change the ending. But I would like to see it changed, and if you do so, I respect that it will be on your terms and not because we 'made' you.

Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to answer our ravening questions.