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[Dragoonlordz]

Sentr0 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

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if i may ask, for how long he was banned? :scaredface:

They tend to only do 24 hours most of time, I know from experience where Stanley doesn't like me it would seem.

Ofcourse I'm kidding I am sure he has nothing against me personally for those past actions he took.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 15 mars 2012 - 03:47 .

[John Epler]

Sentr0 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

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if i may ask, for how long he was banned? :scaredface:

By and large, unless you're being incredibly offensive, bans are for 24 hours.

Of course, depending on the nature of an offense, they can range anywhere from 24 hours to permanently. Though the latter case happens quite rarely, and tends to be limited to those who show no desire to participate constructively. Keep it civil, and even if you get a 24 hour ban for a lapse in judgment, you'll probably be allowed back soon after.

[Computim]

Sentr0 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

[Spam post removed. User banned.]

if i may ask, for how long he was banned? :scaredface:

Til the next cycle.

[Vasarkian]

Sentr0 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

[Spam post removed. User banned.]

if i may ask, for how long he was banned? :scaredface:

Yeah that guy was a good guy, logical, intelligent.

[Stanley Woo]

Parmida wrote...
(You're starting to grow on me Woo ...)

As I should be, because I'm a fungi (fun guy)!

(i know, I know. I'm very fired.)

[bleachorange]

Vasarkian wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Idiotking wrote...

Mr. Woo, I just ask that you keep in mind the polls that are floating around this site.  They show that it really is a majority of people who do not like the endings.

Thank you, but while they may be an indication of something, they are based on a self-selecting sample of a specific minority of our total player base. Specifically, the ones who feel the strongest about the situation and seek out ways to make their displeasure known. So yes, they are useful in gauging how our community feels, but no, not necessarily as "proof" of how the general public feels.

Don't forget that this same community is the one that made BioWare what it is today.

Actually, Bioware made Bioware what it is today, EA and all. I enjoy their products for the most part, and so am a member of this community. I'm not saying we don't matter. But it's silly to think the people who work there count less than those who merely purchase a product. I don't like the endings, but some slogans don't apply in every situation, even if you feel overlooked at the moment. I mean, they listened about the cooldown of powers and lack of weapon choice in ME2, didn't they? I think the new weapon/power mechanic is awesome even if the ending sucks big ones.

[Zulmoka531]

For what it's worth, his job can't be easy. As part of Q&A from a company, he can't necessarily say that those displeased are the majority, but as Mr Woo has pointed out, they don't ignore those who dislike it either.

It's just..business. Public relations, and what have you. But hey, some communication is better than none, the very fact that he's here talking to us is a sign that they are in fact listening. Whether it's our voices, or money, at least it's something at this point.

[fearan1]

Hey there just to clarify I think your sample size is fairly accurate on that survey .
I live here in Edmonton and am I member of the military up at CFB Edmonton and we were doing some fairly easy tasks that enabled time to Chat and of the apprx. 20 guys there 7 had your game we are the 20-40 year old male demographic lol .We all loved everything but the last 10 minutes there was no dissent it was just a universal WT? about the end we are all different ages different walks of life an I think would rarely agree on a lot of things completely so hopefully the DLC can focus on tying up loose ends and plot holes that is the great thing about DLC you can tweak things that may not have been understood.

[allyon]

[Spoilers removed]

Modifié par JohnEpler, 15 mars 2012 - 03:50 .

[OchreJelly]

Given the varied demographics of gamers, I have to doubt that everyone involved understands how PR, marketing, and the fine line that community management walks. That's not a flame against anyone, really... it's fine; I don't know much about the biscuit-making business, myself.

My point is, give others benefit of the doubt in order to get consideration in return. I'm sure there's no real malicious intent by any employee of BioWare (and in general, the fan reactions as well.)

So just be patient. I know everyone wants some sort of information on their personal concerns, but it's really early yet. If BioWare feels a need to say something in any official capacity, they will. If not, they won't and people will have to live with it, and a right to decide what they want to take away from that reaction.

Overall though, it's nice to see a more-or-less reasonable discussion, even in the megathread. Even if there's a few hotheads. I've checked some discussions on other forums and it can be rather dicey (regardless of opinion.)

Modifié par OchreJelly, 15 mars 2012 - 03:54 .

[TheShadowWolf911]

Kinda wish Stanley did something mean just once so i could make a Evil King Stan joke, i doubt many of you will get that reference, but still my desire to make it is there.

Anyway back on topic, a 42k donation to charity within 3 days isn't really that small a gesture......and the donations are growing in number still.

[kbct]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Vijay41086 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Idiotking wrote...

Mr. Woo, I just ask that you keep in mind the polls that are floating around this site.  They show that it really is a majority of people who do not like the endings.

Thank you, but while they may be an indication of something, they are based on a self-selecting sample of a specific minority of our total player base. Specifically, the ones who feel the strongest about the situation and seek out ways to make their displeasure known. So yes, they are useful in gauging how our community feels, but no, not necessarily as "proof" of how the general public feels.

Exactly when it comes to volultary polls, only those with a strong opinion(Usually a strong negative opinion) will respond so they aren't a good indicator of how your population feels.  Any basic stat class will tell you this.

But once again, that doesn't mean their opinions will be ignored or dismissed out of hand. They are all still community members and have still given their feedback. Like if you don't believe in ghosts, even if 10,000 people tell you there's a ghost in the closet, you'll still be skeptical of a ghost, but you'll likely figure that something is up to cause so many people to beleive it's a ghost. Maybe it's really nothing, maybe it's Old Man Jenkins in a ghost costume, maybe a ghost really does exist.

But all that data still has to figure in your decision-making in some form, however small.

Stan, you know this time is different. This ghost is real. This is unlike anything I've seen before. DA2 was not like this with dissatifaction spread across the entire internet. No other BioWare title has receive so many bad user reviews. There is no precedent to look at and say, "This happened before and everything turned out okay."

[DigitalMaster37]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Parmida wrote...
(You're starting to grow on me Woo ...)

As I should be, because I'm a fungi (fun guy)!

(i know, I know. I'm very fired.)

Aww man, Woo you're hilarious tonight. Get up now and get that 5th cup of coffee! or go HOME man! get some sleep!

[John Epler]

Folks, a reminder that this really isn't the thread (or forum) for spoilers.

[GME_ThorianCreeper]

Modifié par GME_ThorianCreeper, 15 mars 2012 - 03:52 .

[Lord Costantino]

SebastianDA wrote...

Stan do you think an ending that resulted in depressed and enraged fans that cannot bare to replay the game was a good call? Or would it be better to add in some new ending options so we can go back to happily playing and mindlessly spending on dlc would be a bit better?

^this

The game has dropped in price and people are enraged. Another thing people want all kinds of endings because of the choices they made. Happy is only one and some endings should have Shepard die. The main problem is that everything you do is no longer Valid and the game turns its back on its self. 

*dont click Spoilers* (needs to be heard)
http://www.gamefront...ns-are-right/5/

Modifié par Lord Costantino, 15 mars 2012 - 03:53 .

[Computim]

kbct wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Vijay41086 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Idiotking wrote...

Mr. Woo, I just ask that you keep in mind the polls that are floating around this site.  They show that it really is a majority of people who do not like the endings.

Thank you, but while they may be an indication of something, they are based on a self-selecting sample of a specific minority of our total player base. Specifically, the ones who feel the strongest about the situation and seek out ways to make their displeasure known. So yes, they are useful in gauging how our community feels, but no, not necessarily as "proof" of how the general public feels.

Exactly when it comes to volultary polls, only those with a strong opinion(Usually a strong negative opinion) will respond so they aren't a good indicator of how your population feels.  Any basic stat class will tell you this.

But once again, that doesn't mean their opinions will be ignored or dismissed out of hand. They are all still community members and have still given their feedback. Like if you don't believe in ghosts, even if 10,000 people tell you there's a ghost in the closet, you'll still be skeptical of a ghost, but you'll likely figure that something is up to cause so many people to beleive it's a ghost. Maybe it's really nothing, maybe it's Old Man Jenkins in a ghost costume, maybe a ghost really does exist.

But all that data still has to figure in your decision-making in some form, however small.

Stan, you know this time is different. This ghost is real. This is unlike anything I've seen before. DA2 was not like this with dissatifaction spread across the entire internet. No other BioWare title has receive so many bad user reviews. There is no precedent to look at and say, "This happened before and everything turned out okay."

Just jumping in again.. I don't hate the game.. on the contrary I -love- the game.. I think it's the best game I've ever played and I don't use that phrase.. ever.. I just hate the ending (without giving spoilers)

[Dragoonlordz]

I hope if they do anything for you lot that it comes in the form of additional (optional) DLC. I see no reason why I should have what I enjoyed "patched" away when I loved the current one. I have nothing against if you get something (you might not get what you want keep that in mind), but don't patch it, offer at most a DLC option for those who did not like it if go down that route please.

[Sentr0]

JohnEpler wrote...

Sentr0 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/ninja.png[/smilie][Spam post removed. User banned.][smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/ninja.png[/smilie]

if i may ask, for how long he was banned? :scaredface:

By and large, unless you're being incredibly offensive, bans are for 24 hours.

Of course, depending on the nature of an offense, they can range anywhere from 24 hours to permanently. Though the latter case happens quite rarely, and tends to be limited to those who show no desire to participate constructively. Keep it civil, and even if you get a 24 hour ban for a lapse in judgment, you'll probably be allowed back soon after.

thx for the answer

[The Big Palooka]

Chiming in just to say, even though I think we all know that this isn't exactly a conversation that's going to settle everybody's mind before bedtime, I really appreciate you Bioware folks taking the time to interact with us. I know The Fans can be a pretty horrible looming entity sometimes, but, you know, pare us down to a manageable group and we're very nearly coherent human beings.

And we really love Mass Effect 3, by the way. We know a lot of people put a lot of themselves into it. Really wish there was some easy way to explain how much I love this series even while being as bummed as I am, but I'll have to settle for saying that I love this series and that is why I'm here in the first place. My standards for Mass Effect are so much higher than any other game I've played.

I just - I can't let this one go. Not when it's a series with the bar set this high. So you know. Disappointed because I love this game the most. Love this game the most even though I'm disappointed. They're not mutually exclusive.

Anyway, thanks again for listening, and for all your hard work.

[WarBaby2]

Ok, since you are still here, I have a question for you...

(Your personal opinion) Would you deem it possible that, based on all the feedback and data, there will be a change of the base game ending as it is now... or do you think, if at all, it will be handled via post game DLC? We know other companies did it in the past, BioWare never did...

[bleachorange]

[Yeah, this is probably unnecessary.]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 15 mars 2012 - 03:55 .

[GME_ThorianCreeper]

JohnEpler wrote...

Folks, a reminder that this really isn't the thread (or forum) for spoilers.

Fixed that for ya bud. 

[Parmida]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Parmida wrote...
(You're starting to grow on me Woo ...)

As I should be, because I'm a fungi (fun guy)!

(i know, I know. I'm very fired.)

Keep this up and I'm gonna add your name to the list in my sig ...

[Praetor Knight]

Well, much of this thread has my head spinning but I thought I'd add a little bit and try to vaguely explain why I feel confused and disappointed by the ending variations we currently have.

dragonage200200 wrote...

 I don't know if anyone has noticed but, if you go to the ME twitter account, its filled up with them asking what people Liked/disliked about the ending and etc.

I don't know about anyone else, but this is gives me back some faith in BW, atleast they are starting to listen.

Thoughts?

To be honest I was shaken immediately after going through the ending, I simply wonder how any of our clamoring could/would be addressed in the future (I'm still figuring DLC), and if some of the fan response was anticipated when the devs went with their choice for the ending, how soon could we learn something about what we can be expecting?

Because for me, there were some elements in the sequence of events from a few of the later "Priority" missions that got me wondering oh, so how will that be addressed later, why is that being presented like this and so on?
And I want to say that I had felt happy and fulfilled of how previous Priority missions were resolved, and that even Shepard could fail from time to time, which added to my confusion with the ending.

Then I get to the last sequence, the final mission, where I felt I was eventually following Alice down the rabbit hole, charging into the light.

I was okay with what came after, up until that conversation (after being lifted up to an unusual space). What came after I make the final choice that's been referenced her, (the A,B,C one) I then watch scenes that leave more questions and confusion for me.



So to sum up, I had wanted what I did earlier in the game to mean something more than what we were given with the ending, not have the Galaxy simply be reset  as it was shown to us, and listen to that last bit of special dialogue. I had expected to hear, read and/or watch little details of how other Homeworlds faired with new frontiers without the Reapers, and that's what I'm hoping for at this point.

I hope I'm making some sense here.