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[dragonage200200]

GammaSniper wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...

GammaSniper wrote...

Jimmy Zhan wrote...

We need to all boycott all BW and EA games if they don't fix the Mass Effect trilogy ending. This is ridiculous, this is such a let down.

very insightfull and constructive, again guys use your brains before your fingers start moving

No boycotting is a very logical thing to do if a mass group of people don't like what theat company is doing. That's a capitalist economy for ya. No one wants to go that far but it is an option people will take and I would join that because I am the consumer and not happy with the product and being lied to about what I was recieving.

So we mention something that has been posted in countless other posts all over the forums yet again?  Yup im sure the devs enjoy that as a insightfull post

Yea, the people planning on boycotting have made their point, about every thread has something about boycotting in it.

Anyway, was it not stated some where that Bioware wishes to continue using the ME universe? Could you confirm this Mr. Woo/ Mr.Epler?

[Razith]

I have a strong feeling if we hear about anything it will be in the week leading up to or at PAX. Until then requesting answers rather than giving feedback might just be leading to moot point ends as they aren't ready to or aren't able to share the information type we are looking for.

I understand that as a strong possibility as much as it depresses me. I've posted before the ending just left me empty. It hurts a lot to try and think of the hopefulness that what we saw really wasn't the ending.

We have statements saying it isn't going to end that way, and I want to think they weren't misinforming on that front. The multiple leaks do complicate things, especially if fanbase input was taken into account during that time and they are making changes based on that. It's rare that a game makes my heart sink, and while there were good sad moments (as promised) and amazing high moments. The ending just felt empty which is why I hope all the cryptic messages end up meaning something interesting (IE: one twitter post was "How many endings have you completed?" A possible answer is 0 as that wasn't the ending.). I suppose enough theories for one night.

I loved the game, up until the present ending. The only other sad point for me was that I had very little time with my favorite character as they had a late screen arrival time. I hope for content to allow me to interact with them a lot more as what I have encountered was amazing.

[Nachtritter76]

GammaSniper wrote...

here is something im demanding : I demand a sticker below my profile picture (where it shows all the titles you have registered) that shows i have started at shattered steel and played every Bioware title released. I know that your propably need a serial code for that or at least a picture of the original gamedisc? thats cool in that case start at Baldurs Gate Legends of the sword coast please

Nuh-huh.

They shouldn't start with an expac. Start with the real thing, then we'll talk. Also, it's Tales, not Legends. Just nitpicking.

[bleachorange]

GammaSniper wrote...

bleachorange wrote...

GammaSniper wrote...

here is something im demanding : I demand a sticker below my profile picture (where it shows all the titles you have registered) that shows i have started at shattered steel and played every Bioware title released. I know that your propably need a serial code for that or at least a picture of the original gamedisc? thats cool in that case start at Baldurs Gate Legends of the sword coast please

just put it in your forum sig - works as well

doesnt look quite as flashy

slot it into your profile pic itself then. there's a way to do it (see my pic), but the blog i fav'd has been deleted.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Jimmy Zhan wrote...

We need to all boycott all BW and EA games if they don't fix the Mass Effect trilogy ending. This is ridiculous, this is such a let down.

You have no clue what they're thinking or planning. Making such generalizations and jumping to wild conclusions isn't going to get you or the rest of the fanbase anywhere good. Might want to give it a little more time and see what they have in store. I'm 99.9% positive something will be announced within the month. They're just waiting for more people to play and finish ME3.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 15 mars 2012 - 06:29 .

[Crase]

Really, aside from a few cut corners, most of Mass Effect 3 was a highly enjoyable experience. The actual gameplay is great, most of the characters are compelling and interesting, and many of the major events in the game really pull the player in. I was personally surprised at how attached I'd become to some of the characters.

Unfortunately, the game's ending was just...terrible. Whether one's opinion is to like or dislike it, the ending, from an objective standpoint, is simply terrible. Plot holes, disconnected from the lore, invalidation of all major choices, abrupt and confusingly vague, and all three "choices" are virtually identical. After all the claims of "choices matter", the ending makes me feel like a massive bait-and-switch.

I don't think Bioware's developers are lazy. I really don't. But the Mass Effect 3 endgame is just, simply, vapid and uninspired. It was really poorly done. Did you hire M. Night Shyamalan to invent an obligatory "what a twist!" ending? Or did someone think it would be a good idea to strap 2001: A Space Odyssey's ending to the end of Star Wars? Really?

The biggest disappointment is that the first two games and 90% of the third were all great. ME3 was well on its way to being my favorite game, but the ending just shut that idea right out.

[Nachtritter76]

dragonage200200 wrote...

GammaSniper wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...

GammaSniper wrote...

Jimmy Zhan wrote...

We need to all boycott all BW and EA games if they don't fix the Mass Effect trilogy ending. This is ridiculous, this is such a let down.

very insightfull and constructive, again guys use your brains before your fingers start moving

No boycotting is a very logical thing to do if a mass group of people don't like what theat company is doing. That's a capitalist economy for ya. No one wants to go that far but it is an option people will take and I would join that because I am the consumer and not happy with the product and being lied to about what I was recieving.

So we mention something that has been posted in countless other posts all over the forums yet again?  Yup im sure the devs enjoy that as a insightfull post

Yea, the people planning on boycotting have made their point, about every thread has something about boycotting in it.

Anyway, was it not stated some where that Bioware wishes to continue using the ME universe? Could you confirm this Mr. Woo/ Mr.Epler?

I believe they did say that while they might not continue the story of Shepard, they may continue with the ME universe, yes.

[Nykara]

VAIOMANIAC wrote...



The reaply value is killed because of these endings that´s all I have to say why would I buy dlc or even consider playing the game again knowing what I know. You guys pulled  a George Lucas ffs there is no explaining the endings when choices you make eventually does not matter.

Really? As a tribute to my favorite character I am currently playing her story over again from begining to end. I was there from the start. The week ME1 was released. Well actually before that even because I was looking forward to the game before release. I hope I will be there until the end - whenever that might be. In the meanwhile, play play play for me!

[Lord Costantino]

dragonage200200 wrote...

GammaSniper wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...

GammaSniper wrote...

Jimmy Zhan wrote...

We need to all boycott all BW and EA games if they don't fix the Mass Effect trilogy ending. This is ridiculous, this is such a let down.

very insightfull and constructive, again guys use your brains before your fingers start moving

No boycotting is a very logical thing to do if a mass group of people don't like what theat company is doing. That's a capitalist economy for ya. No one wants to go that far but it is an option people will take and I would join that because I am the consumer and not happy with the product and being lied to about what I was recieving.

So we mention something that has been posted in countless other posts all over the forums yet again?  Yup im sure the devs enjoy that as a insightfull post

Yea, the people planning on boycotting have made their point, about every thread has something about boycotting in it.

Anyway, was it not stated some where that Bioware wishes to continue using the ME universe? Could you confirm this Mr. Woo/ Mr.Epler?

If they continue it that doesn't help the fact they burned most of the fans with the ending. I for one will still be wary even if they fix the ending. I will not buy another Bioware product until I see good reason to. Japan is upset with the ending as well, Retake Mass Effect 3 is on their websites translating everything and they are not happy.

[Nachtritter76]

Lord Costantino wrote...

dragonage200200 wrote...

GammaSniper wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...

GammaSniper wrote...

Jimmy Zhan wrote...

We need to all boycott all BW and EA games if they don't fix the Mass Effect trilogy ending. This is ridiculous, this is such a let down.

very insightfull and constructive, again guys use your brains before your fingers start moving

No boycotting is a very logical thing to do if a mass group of people don't like what theat company is doing. That's a capitalist economy for ya. No one wants to go that far but it is an option people will take and I would join that because I am the consumer and not happy with the product and being lied to about what I was recieving.

So we mention something that has been posted in countless other posts all over the forums yet again?  Yup im sure the devs enjoy that as a insightfull post

Yea, the people planning on boycotting have made their point, about every thread has something about boycotting in it.

Anyway, was it not stated some where that Bioware wishes to continue using the ME universe? Could you confirm this Mr. Woo/ Mr.Epler?

If they continue it that doesn't help the fact they burned most of the fans with the ending. I for one will still be wary even if they fix the ending. I will not buy another Bioware product until I see good reason to. Japan is upset with the ending as well, Retake Mass Effect 3 is on their websites translating everything and they are not happy.

Japan is angry because of not enough MOE and PANTSU.

[bleachorange]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

bleachorange wrote...

What would you do if Bioware made another awesome game completely unrelated to ME universe, and never visited it again because so many people are unhappy enough to boycott without giving them a shot to get all the information? Nothing. They could leave it as it is and never mention Mass Effect again. DO I think that will happen? no. But they COULD DO IT. And nothing you could say would change that fact if they chose to do it. So have some class, and tell John concrete reasons why you didn't like the ending, so maybe they have information to assess possibly fixing your problem? much more sensible.

I hate to be THAT guy BUT...

If John doesn't know by now why we are not happy with the game then it's not OUR fault. I'm pretty sure more than enough news outlets are reporting on the story and people are being pretty dang thorough in detail on Twitter.

true enough. I'm not mad or anything. I'm just saying,  use your head a little more, to channel your heart. or in the words of denzel washington, Football is about controlling that anger, harnessing that aggression into a team effort to achieve perfection!

[devSin]

JohnEpler wrote...

But I know the ending, inside and out. Partially because, well, if you're moderating these forums it's impossible to miss, and partially because I figured I should know exactly what everyone's talking about.

It has to be played to be believed. Trust me.

You'll scratch your head and be all "What?" And not in the good way, like your mind is blown, but in the way where you're speechless as to how something like this should even be received. Should you laugh? Should you cry? Should you rage?

I'm sure you're too nice to go downstairs and tell them, but it'll secretly eat away at you. And then if David or Luke (or nefarious Sheryl) ever tries to get you to do a finale scene like that, it will all pour out and you'll bust out the hand and be "Hell no!"

Then we will have justice!

Modifié par devSin, 15 mars 2012 - 06:35 .

[Mr. MannlyMan]

JohnEpler wrote...

At the end of the day, I think everyone has the right to share their opinion, as long as they do so respectfully - which everyone here is doing. At the same time, I would ask that we stay away from 'objective truth' posts, because there are a number of people who are enjoying the ending. I'm not saying that people who don't like it are wrong, so let's not start that tangent. What I -am- saying, though, is that people saying 'you liked it? HOW COULD YOU LIKE IT WHEN IT WAS SO OBVIOUSLY BAD?' aren't really being constructive.

It's not constructive, no, and the hard-working folks at Bioware have every right to be happy with the product that they've put out, because in many respects, it's an amazing product!

I do, however, feel that the people who are panning the ending have largely been much more articulate in their criticisms than those who liked it have been in defending it.

[dragonage200200]

Nachtritter76 wrote...



I believe they did say that while they might not continue the story of Shepard, they may continue with the ME universe, yes.

Yea, that what I thought. It was something like when they were asked they said they would like to do more based around the ME-ME3 style. But, when asked about a MMO style, they said that was a possibility too.

[Nykara]

devSin wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...

But I know the ending, inside and out. Partially because, well, if you're moderating these forums it's impossible to miss, and partially because I figured I should know exactly what everyone's talking about.

It has to be played to be believed. Trust me.

You'll scratch your head and be all "What?"

I'm sure you're too nice to go downstairs and tell them, but it'll secretly eat away at you. And then if David or Luke (or nefarious Sheryl) ever tries to get you to do a finale scene like that, it will all pour out and you'll bust out the hand and be "Hell no!"

Then we will have revenge!

I agree with this you really do need to play it for yourself.
I was reading the forums as well and had read a bunch of spoilers about the ending before i got there - mainly because I wanted to prepare myself first given the negativity. It is different when you actually play it and see it for yourself with your own Shepard character.

[GammaSniper]

Lord Costantino wrote...

GammaSniper wrote...

Lord Costantino wrote...

GammaSniper wrote...

Jimmy Zhan wrote...

We need to all boycott all BW and EA games if they don't fix the Mass Effect trilogy ending. This is ridiculous, this is such a let down.

very insightfull and constructive, again guys use your brains before your fingers start moving

No boycotting is a very logical thing to do if a mass group of people don't like what theat company is doing. That's a capitalist economy for ya. No one wants to go that far but it is an option people will take and I would join that because I am the consumer and not happy with the product and being lied to about what I was recieving.

So we mention something that has been posted in countless other posts all over the forums yet again?  Yup im sure the devs enjoy that as a insightfull post

However rash it is. It needs to be said. I am not forum jumping saying boycott and reposting it. It was brought up here and I voiced my opinion.

which is valued , however reposting by Lord Castino how we will boycot is unneccessary since there are already pages filled with the exact same statement.

[New Generation]

Jestina wrote...

They never listened during the uproar over DA2 development. What makes you think they would actually start listening now?

That game was flawed from the ground up. ME3's only major fault is the ending which can be changed or at the very least modified. Changing an ending isn't anywhere near as hard as completely overhauling a game from the ground up.

[UBER GEEKZILLA]

they are always listening guys. they wont fail us

[Nachtritter76]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

bleachorange wrote...

What would you do if Bioware made another awesome game completely unrelated to ME universe, and never visited it again because so many people are unhappy enough to boycott without giving them a shot to get all the information? Nothing. They could leave it as it is and never mention Mass Effect again. DO I think that will happen? no. But they COULD DO IT. And nothing you could say would change that fact if they chose to do it. So have some class, and tell John concrete reasons why you didn't like the ending, so maybe they have information to assess possibly fixing your problem? much more sensible.

I hate to be THAT guy BUT...

If John doesn't know by now why we are not happy with the game then it's not OUR fault. I'm pretty sure more than enough news outlets are reporting on the story and people are being pretty dang thorough in detail on Twitter.

To be perfectly honest, I believe it might be hard for them take it all in. True, there are a LOT of reports and a LOT of people are being VERY thorough about their anger.

Which, when you think of it, is both good and bad because that means there is a LOT of noise to filter through. Where to start, what is valid, what isn't? I do understand the point that most are trying to make, I share a lot of views with most people as well ( I THINK). But it's not so clear cut. Some people claim they MLP happy endings, some people want sad but full of explanation, some people want this or that to have an impact, some people want to keep what's there and add some stuff, some people want what's there to be replaced entirely... It's kinda hard.

They know people are angry, though. That would be hard to miss.

[dragonage200200]

So I am reading MEs twitter page and

Also, no matter the end chosen, Shep did as much damage as the Reapers could or would have. Billions dead, the armada stranded. @masseffect

@majindeadite102 Very true.

@masseffect @majindeadite102 wait... did you guys misread the tweet, or are you guys agreeing that the ending leaves the galaxy in shambles?

@omgbamf Galaxy in shambles.

Huh.

[Nachtritter76]

UBER GEEKZILLA wrote...

they are always listening guys. they wont fail us

Some would argue they have done fine by them.

Others would say they have failed them already.

Some say they won't fail them.

It's impossible to please all, I believe they may try to please most, but they will fail some - with such a large fanbase, it's inevitable.

[bleachorange]

http://content.usato.../1#.T2FKXfXLt8E

[Nachtritter76]

dragonage200200 wrote...

So I am reading MEs twitter page and

SNIP @masseffect

@majindeadite102 Very true.

@masseffect @majindeadite102 wait...SNIP

@omgbamf SNIP

Huh.

Prepare to be edited.