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[bleachorange]

oh, hey, Stan you're still with us! yayness! *ahem*

"So how exactly does this one be excellent to the other one? The Enkindlers seem to have little lore in regards to this."

[Nachtritter76]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Let's stay on topic, please. MelfinaofOutlawStar, Nachtritter76, take your chat to private message or IRC. Thanks.

Sorry. What IS the topic of the thread -- aside from "they're listening, guys" ? We know that you're listening, BW. But you can't exactly commit to much right now. So people can ask "can you guys make XX thing happen instead of YY thing?" all they want, but we're not going to get answers on that at this time.

[bleachorange]

This one wishes Nachtritter to cease his excretions and get to the business end of the blade. This one has little time for childish amusements. This one is taking it too far with these references.

[Emphyr]

Mr Woo I do appreciate that you are here ! Thanks!

I posted this a few days ago in the Face topic->

Well i started playing.... I could not resist not dooing so. I started playing with a reconstructed femshep that is the most likely to be Nicole.

I just had a phonecall with Nicole Shepard and she explained to me why her appearence did change so much. She Told me that with all the cash she got from defeating ME2 she had a new haircut and she said she liked it. She also told she was having a minor problem with 1 leg. She said because she got shot in the leg and was having problems with running fast she decided to have it Fixed.

So she went to the private hospital to get her leg fixed but instead of dooing that they gave her a NOSE job!! Man she was mad! But later on she saw some old movies from Michael Jackson and she was thinking.. hey it could have been worse ...

Later on she discovered that the private Clinic was owned by Conrad Verner . Nicole learned that Conrad has accidently got acces to the bank account of the Volar.

Nicole is not pleased at all with her new face.. But she is very happy she still has her (.)(.) not corrected.

Nicole also told me she has a new mission now and she dont goe to often looking in mirrors anymore.
She also promised that if she will meet Conrad again she will shoot him 5 times in his foot.

Nicole just finished the Mars mission and is at the Citadel right now and she thinks her new face is a minor problem compared to Ash. She wants Ash to recover,

Nicole hopes that while beeing on the missions she will find a better Hospital to get her facial structure bones and nose restored to how it was. She also hopes to find a Bioware barber to get her hair back in the old fashioned way she was used to.

The main thing is.. Nicole is upset with her new look and she disagree's a lot.. But she has a mission to forfill and that is what she is gooing for now.

Take Care Regards from the Netherlands.
Emphyrio

Modifié par Emphyr, 15 mars 2012 - 08:42 .

[devSin]

Jahannam wrote...

Sovereign and Saren were linked. Once Saren died Sovereign became vulnerable and the fleet took it out. Not every Reaper intoctrinated a special friend like that.

I wonder if Harbinger would have glitched if we were able to find and kill the beetle king in ME2.

I always wondered why Harbinger could just hop bodies without caring, but Sovereign shut down after you squished husk Saren.

Sovereign probably would have won the day if he had just not bothered. Mandatory final boss fight is what killed him.

bleachorange wrote...

Jimmy, thanks for the info. it meshes with what Gamble tweeted here:
"Hardest. Day. Ever. Seriously, if you people knew all the stuff we are
planning...you'd, we'll - hold onto your copy of me3 forever."

FINGER CROSSED, PEEPS!

Isn't Gamble a live team producer? Meaning he's basically only responsible for DLC.

Which means his Hardest. Day. Ever. could have been about nothing more than From Ashes and the people that are vehemently opposed to "Day 1" DLC (and really any DLC at all, in a lot of cases).

voteDC wrote...

I've not reached the ending of the game yet but I confess some trepidation at people saying how depressing the endings are.

My Shepards have always been positive characters, looking for the best in the races and the universe, so I had hope that there would be an ending that reflected the outlook I'd put on the trilogy.

What I hear though is that things are just shades of the same depressing ending and that how I tackled 1, 2 and 3 don't really matter in the final choice.

Do it! Do it! DO IT!

Not only are they all somewhat depressing (or a mix of confusing and depressing; we'll say confrussing), but they make no sense whatsoever.

Take the plunge! You'll scream. You'll weep. You'll gibber like a fool.

And after it all, you will not be able to accept that what you've just experienced was actually intended to be taken seriously.

Or you could end up liking it. Some people have that reaction, too.

Modifié par devSin, 15 mars 2012 - 08:34 .

[Emphyr]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Daggerville wrote...

*edit*Please remove Spoilers!
Speaking of Farscape (on an off-topic sense here)

And thank you so much for spoiling the ending of Farscape for me.

I completly agree it did ruin the ending for me also.
Mods please remove the spoling txt  from Daggerville.
Thanks

Modifié par Emphyr, 15 mars 2012 - 08:34 .

[jeweledleah]

I will admit. my Shepard looked badass during red ending. I still hated it though, because even if she refused to cave to other choices, she never got a chance to try for a better solution. in some ways, she has given up. and that's not how I played her through the rest of the trilogy. her defining characteristic was that she never gave up, even with occasional moments of weakness, she would spring back and keep finding a way.

which is also why I liked a certain moment during first part of the ending - you know the one I'm talking about, right before things get REALLY weird.

the endings did have their moments and music is fantastic. but that's all they were IMO, collection of rule of cool moments that didn't add up into a logical whole, and didn't fit with the rest of the narrative.

[hangmans tree]

Wouldnt it be a good idea to make an official pool, with rating or not, to measure the throughout satisfaction/dissatisfaction on BSN (with the endings)?
Make it obligatory, like the policy change, so everyone that logs in have to answer some brief question/s. Dont forget 'I havent finished yet' option

So in few week you will have a holistic/complemantary view of the BSN thoughts on the endings/whatever. There you have it, then you will have to measure... I dont know, other 75% of ME3 buyers?
BTW, how large is the BSN community? In %age I mean, what portion of players who play ME3 are here on BSN?

[Soilworker77]

Stanley Woo wrote...
And thank you so much for spoiling the ending of Farscape for me.

Off topic, but you do really love chatting with us don't you?
You said you were going home 3 hours ago, yet you come back like a boomerang. 
So I take it you are chatting from your own home now?

I always loved this company and it's games...

Modifié par Soilworker77, 15 mars 2012 - 08:41 .

[Jahannam]

Soilworker77 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...
And thank you so much for spoiling the ending of Farscape for me.

Off topic, but you do really love chatting with us don't you?
You said you were going home 3 hours ago, yet you come back like a boomerang. 
So I take it you are chatting from your own home now?

I always loved this company and it's games...

I can see it...Hes at home watching old farscape episodes to catch up. Between episodes he grabs a drink, figures he will make sure the forums havent exploded. Looks at this thread and goes really? Really? Way to wreck it...well so much for Farscape. Off to bed.

[devSin]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

I do wonder why they didn't stick with it. Tali's stuff builds up to it but there is no payoff. It also would have made loads more sense than what we were given in the end. They seemed to be sticking with the line of thought up into Arrival with Object Rho and the Alpha relay. So whatever changes were made came after Arrival.

From what I've heard, the plotline was ridiculous. There is no dark energy threat, and if there were, the Reapers would have plenty of time to find it and neutralize it without being spurred to rash action.

The whole idea was supposedly that they had run out of time to solve the problem, and humanity, because of its genetic diversity and awesomeness and killer sex appeal, was their last-chance plan to find a solution (it was thought the human Reaper could succeed where they had so far failed).

Except stars would be dissolving right before our eyes in the game if they had run out of time. 50,000 years is *miniscule* in comparison to the timescales needed for this to make the least bit of sense. And departing from the galaxy and basically ignoring 50,000 years at a stretch is not going to solve anything.

Honestly, I wish they had just gone a cheap route and had the Reapers use the star's energy or something (maybe there was a Reaper device in it) to open a mass effect corridor into the galaxy (and that would be how they got here, instead of hoofing it). It would be inane, but at least it would tie it off and get it out of the way.

I promise you. The Reapers were never, never ever ever going to have a satisfactory purpose. They should have just left it to the imagination than trying to explain it in three lines of dialogue that have nothing to really do with anything.

But we should all be thankful they dropped the dark energy rot, even if we don't like the current ending.

Modifié par devSin, 15 mars 2012 - 09:00 .

[Emphyr]

Can we please stop the spoilers.......I dont want to know I just started playing.

Thanks!

Modifié par Emphyr, 15 mars 2012 - 08:48 .

[nikki191]

while im glad they are listening im frankly dumbfounded that they didnt seem to realise people would want to know what happened to the other characters and races at the end

[devSin]

Emphyr wrote...

Can we please stop the spoilers.......I dont want to know I just started playing.

If you're referring to the dark energy bit above, none of that is actually a real plot. It doesn't exist in the game in any way, shape, or form.

It's purportedly something that was considered at one point or another but was ultimately rejected (although it does play into a bit of where they were at when they were doing ME2).

Modifié par devSin, 15 mars 2012 - 08:52 .

[Emphyr]

devSin wrote...

Emphyr wrote...

Can we please stop the spoilers.......I dont want to know I just started playing.

If you're referring to the dark energy bit above, none of that is actually a real plot. It doesn't exist in the game in any way, shape, or form.

It's purportedly something that was considered at one point or another but was ultimately rejected.

Ok thanks! i apologize.

[Soilworker77]

Jahannam wrote...

Soilworker77 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...
And thank you so much for spoiling the ending of Farscape for me.

Off topic, but you do really love chatting with us don't you?
You said you were going home 3 hours ago, yet you come back like a boomerang. 
So I take it you are chatting from your own home now?

I always loved this company and it's games...

I can see it...Hes at home watching old farscape episodes to catch up. Between episodes he grabs a drink, figures he will make sure the forums havent exploded. Looks at this thread and goes really? Really? Way to wreck it...well so much for Farscape. Off to bed.

Aargh, you mad at me?
Don't jump to conclusions mate, I was not the one who told him about Farscape, I just commented Stan's online activity x) 

Modifié par Soilworker77, 15 mars 2012 - 08:56 .

[OhManTFE]

Stanley Woo, you say you can't be certain that the outcry toward the endings doesn't represent the population, because the sample is inaccurate due to self-selection bias.

If you really wish to know, why don't you create a poll that ignores this bias? Simply having a poll on the main menu of the game should remove that particular bias.

I mean it just seems to me that you are trying to wave off this massive outcry, instead of taking it seriously and trying to determine if there actually IS a majority that is unhappy with the poor quality of the endings.

Modifié par OhManTFE, 15 mars 2012 - 08:59 .

[Jahannam]

Soilworker77 wrote...

Jahannam wrote...

Soilworker77 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...
And thank you so much for spoiling the ending of Farscape for me.

Off topic, but you do really love chatting with us don't you?
You said you were going home 3 hours ago, yet you come back like a boomerang. 
So I take it you are chatting from your own home now?

I always loved this company and it's games...

I can see it...Hes at home watching old farscape episodes to catch up. Between episodes he grabs a drink, figures he will make sure the forums havent exploded. Looks at this thread and goes really? Really? Way to wreck it...well so much for Farscape. Off to bed.

Aargh, you mad at me?
I was not the one who told him about Farscape, I just commented Stan's online activity x) 

Nah I know you were just commenting on his post. I dont see anything in my post being a accusation at you.

Modifié par Jahannam, 15 mars 2012 - 09:01 .

[Soilworker77]

Jahannam wrote...

Soilworker77 wrote...

Jahannam wrote...

Soilworker77 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...
And thank you so much for spoiling the ending of Farscape for me.

Off topic, but you do really love chatting with us don't you?
You said you were going home 3 hours ago, yet you come back like a boomerang. 
So I take it you are chatting from your own home now?

I always loved this company and it's games...

I can see it...Hes at home watching old farscape episodes to catch up. Between episodes he grabs a drink, figures he will make sure the forums havent exploded. Looks at this thread and goes really? Really? Way to wreck it...well so much for Farscape. Off to bed.

Aargh, you mad at me?
I was not the one who told him about Farscape, I just commented Stan's online activity x) 

Nah I know you were just commenting on his post. I dont see anything in my post being a accusation at you.

It might just be that my native language is not english, so I probably just didn't get the point hehe ^^

[nikola8]

I find it amusing that people are so up in arms about the ending. The "plot holes" that people claim are actually "perceived plot holes." I've heard many viable explanations to explain them- in other words, as much as people claim objective failures in the ending, the fact is that the ending fails to live up to their subjective expectations. The end of the Mass Effect trilogy isn't found in the final 10 minutes of Mass Effect 3, it is found throughout the game of Mass Effect 3. If Bioware caves and releases DLC endings, Mass Effect 3 turns into just another conventional game where everything is happily or tragically explained at the end. The fact that they don't explain everything shows respect by Bioware towards the gamers to figure it out on their own. Yes, the ending is unconventional, but it is very memorable. Just because people don't understand it doesn't mean they should hate it (although people tend to hate things they don't understand).

Please Bioware, do not release DLC endings. The endings in the game are perfect as is. Releasing new endings harms the creative integrity of the work. It also sets a dangerous precedent in which gamers expect that, with enough fan support, they can override the story of any game that they don't like a certain part of.

[Polat995]

If you don't delevop game to please us, then who will buy your game,huh? Good joob, you learned the greed lesson very well from EA

[Polat995]

Sorry, Nikola. It must be real epilogue that explains everything, there musn't be squad members teleported to Normandy, etc

[Jahannam]

Soilworker77 wrote...

It might just be that my native language is not english, so I probably just didn't get the point hehe ^^

No worries. I was just joking around a bit. Most people in my own native language dont always get it...Sometimes they laugh..sometimes they look at me like my puppy does when Im trying to explain string theory to her.

[die-yng]

Stanley Woo wrote...

We always listen and consider what our community has to say. We have been listening the entire time. That does NOT mean, however, that we are obligated to respond, to agree with you, or to develop the game to please you.

We have a lot of people giving us feedback, and due to the diverse nature of our fanbase and community, there are a lot of different opinions and suggestions floating around, and some of it will be contradictory. I encourage all those giving us feedback to consider that the game has only been out a short time and that it does take time to consider all the feedback coming at us. Thank you all for your enthusiasm and support (and criticism).

What I simply do not get is why the endings have to be so restricted.
It's basically just one ending with three twists.

Artistic ideals are one thing, but isn't one of the plus points of video games, that players can get the ending they choose or can get more preferable endings if they achieve better results, a better playthrough.

Normally you fail or you get some sort of positive ending, depending on how well you played and what choices you made the ending gets better.

A perfect example for this is DA:O.

You had the opportunity to make endings for all kinds of players, but you chose such a controversial route, basically enraging a significant part of your customer base.

I just don't get that, sorry.

Also I'd say in some way you are obligated to develop the games to please us, you want to sell them after all.

[Soilworker77]

Jahannam wrote...

Soilworker77 wrote...

It might just be that my native language is not english, so I probably just didn't get the point hehe ^^

No worries. I was just joking around a bit. Most people in my own native language dont always get it...Sometimes they laugh..sometimes they look at me like my puppy does when Im trying to explain string theory to her.

I see, but we better take this conversation by PM's instead of here.
How about we get back on topic?