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[Nekroso22]

I still can't get over the fact that OP thinks Star Wars fans liked midichlorians.

[dkear1]

So the opinions of those who are returning their games don't matter?
The opinions of those who are recommending to others not to buy the game don't matter?

What an odd concept.........let me think about it some...........head explodes after realizing you used the chewbacca defense on us!

Modifié par dkear1, 15 mars 2012 - 01:25 .

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

The Misconception: When your beliefs are challenged with facts, you alter your opinions and incorporate the new information into your thinking.

The Truth: When your deepest convictions are challenged by contradictory evidence, your beliefs get stronger.

- David McRaney

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Winning.

Cool, there we go: a perfect explanation for you here.

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[Spectre_Shepard]

Our opinion does matter.

If Bioware wants our business, they will take our opinion into account. Period.

*moves out of "checkmate"*

[Dean_the_Young]

Vasparian wrote...

All I saw was blah blah I am pretentious and condescending.

Which is a shame, because in doing so you're validating him/her.

Not least because he/she predicted you'd do just that.

[MintyCool]

kunzite wrote...

Despite your arguments, I did manage to read the whole article. And while I respect that you might feel this way, I disagree with the assumptions.

Bioware might view us as a guaranteed asset. They would be wrong. There is nothing guaranteeing my continued patronage, and most importantly, my financial support of their products, except for something called Brand Loyalty.

Bioware had a reputation of making high quality, if not the highest quality, games available. But if they believe that making products on their own terms is more important than making games their customers would enjoy and wish to purchase and support, then this 'guaranteed asset' will be guaranteed to be an asset to some other company that makes products I enjoy. And yes, this is a generalization, but the premise is the point.

You missed the point, it's not simply about a few people deciding they will not be buying the next Bioware product. It's about how you are simply replaced by someone else long enough to make it around the cycle of anger only to become a customer again.

[Pyropedic]

"I enjoyed it, and the reason you didn't is because you're inferior."

Well done.

[Akael_Bayn]

MintyCool wrote...
In the end, Bioware views you as a guaranteed asset.

View it in the same light as a diehard sports fan that is upset about his popular team, and in protest decides to not attend any games. Does ownership care? No. Why? It's because someone else will fill that void with-in seconds, enjoying the game instead of you. Overtime your will power will shatter and you'll end up being a fan the next chance you get.

Bioware is the RPG equivalent to a popular sports team like the Chicago Bulls. When it comes down to it, and everyone is buying the new Bioware AAA blockbuster; your impulses will give way and your brain will be firing synapses at a constant pace...needing that fix.

You will dance with the devil, and Bioware knows it.

Er, no?  I've abandoned plenty of things I've enjoyed and never gone back.  Thanks for assuming everyone is as weak-willed as you.

"I must stand with anybody that stands right, and stand with him while he is right, and part with him when he goes wrong."  And my-oh-my, EA and/or BW has gone wrong.

Modifié par Akael_Bayn, 15 mars 2012 - 01:29 .

[Dean_the_Young]

Nekroso22 wrote...

I still can't get over the fact that OP thinks Star Wars fans liked midichlorians.

Possibly because the OP's point was the opposite?

[Phattee Buttz]

If EA wants to keep the franchise going (and I'm sure they do, because they're all about the money and Mass Effect is a cash cow), then Mass Effect's fans' opinions, especially those of the most devoted ones, definitely matter.

Modifié par Phattee Buttz, 15 mars 2012 - 01:28 .

[kunzite]

MintyCool wrote...

kunzite wrote...

Despite your arguments, I did manage to read the whole article. And while I respect that you might feel this way, I disagree with the assumptions.

Bioware might view us as a guaranteed asset. They would be wrong. There is nothing guaranteeing my continued patronage, and most importantly, my financial support of their products, except for something called Brand Loyalty.

Bioware had a reputation of making high quality, if not the highest quality, games available. But if they believe that making products on their own terms is more important than making games their customers would enjoy and wish to purchase and support, then this 'guaranteed asset' will be guaranteed to be an asset to some other company that makes products I enjoy. And yes, this is a generalization, but the premise is the point.

You missed the point, it's not simply about a few people deciding they will not be buying the next Bioware product. It's about how you are simply replaced by someone else long enough to make it around the cycle of anger only to become a customer again.

And you missed my point. If Bioware wishes to design games for themselves, instead of their customers, then no, in fact, I will not become a customer again. Sorry. Wrong.

[LegendaryBlade]

Checkmate. Entitled. Winning.

Did you actively try to use every pretentious word you could think of. Good job.

Modifié par LegendaryBlade, 15 mars 2012 - 01:30 .

[Walrusninja]

Bioware already gotsd mai moneh - that's why:(

Modifié par Walrusninja, 15 mars 2012 - 01:30 .

[silencemayday]

noun.  checkmate - complete victory;
a successful ending of a struggle or contest; "a narrow victory"; "the general always gets credit for his army's victory"; "clinched a victory"; "convincing victory"; "the agreement was a triumph for common sense"

no, no i don't think op thought this one through. 

[K_Tabris]

You're so cool OP

Wow, it totally makes sense now! All of it! Boy, you really cleared it up for us dweeby 'guaranteed assets'.

Yes, the game was amazingly enjoyable until the nonsensical ending that makes me want to jump off of a cliff.

[ket_shee]

MintyCool wrote...

You missed the point, it's not simply about a few people deciding they will not be buying the next Bioware product. It's about how you are simply replaced by someone else long enough to make it around the cycle of anger only to become a customer again.

I 'm not sure if anyone's missing the point or the point was ill conceived, poorly presented, and (purposely) convoluted.

Huh, seems to be a theme around here recently, Reading Comprehension vs Concise Writing .

Enjoy your opinion all you want, we will enjoy ours, not out of right or entitelement but mere matter of fact. As it appears right now, there just seems to be slightly more of our opinion than yours.

[Foulpancake]

...lol

[Lunaluxlepus]

[lasertank]

Your points had been discussed in many other threads. Nothing creative you mentioned in this post.

[Skirata129]

I never read leaks and I've been a member for a while. just came here to discuss a beloved series with other like minded individuals.

[N7 Banshee Bait]

The endings could be cool. We just need some clear answers. Instead of a completely new ending, I just want a DLC that fills in all the gaps & answers all the questions. I don't mind the endings, I just want them to be less confusing & more straight to the point. I want to actually see the Normandy pick up teammates & make the jump through the mass relays.I want the Catalyst to explain in plain English why the mass relays had to be destroyed. If they made the endings more easy to understand then there wouldn't be so much hatred all over the place. None of use would be so pissed & depressed.

The reason everybody is pissed off is simple, they don't understand the endings. As it stands now, sticking the Normandy in the mass relay looks like a huge blunder on Bioware's part. But if they gave us some scenes showing what led up to that, then everybody would change their tune.

Sometimes leaving things to the imagination is a good thing. But in this case, it isn't.

[Wowlock]

Soo lets stop defending what we deserve and bend over for the ''big bad corporations since they all know the best '' ?

Sorry, I am not that loose in the rear....

[piemanz]

It has nothing to do with facts. They want happy endings.

[Dean_the_Young]

kunzite wrote...

And you missed my point. If Bioware wishes to design games for themselves, instead of their customers, then no, in fact, I will not become a customer again. Sorry. Wrong.

Well, this is interesting. Not many people have the honesty to admit that they want a developer to abandon pretenses of artistic independence and simply pander to fan whims.

I'm impressed, honestly.

[SSV Enterprise]

"In the end, Bioware views you as a guaranteed asset."

The hell they do. If they leave the ending alone Mass Effect 3 will have been the last BioWare product I bought.