Granted I had the same reaction as a lot of people when he first mentioned his husband. I basically rolled my eyes and said "Here comes the proselytizing, token gay guy that will remind me that all orientations are valid." I don't even have a problem with any orientation. I just hate characters inserted into plots for the sole purpose of driving home an author's philosophical beliefs.
After that first "Here we go again" moment, Cortez is a pretty great character. That is precisely because he's designed to be a great character, rather than a gay character: he's not defined by his sexual preference. His banter with Vega, which I immediately worried was going to turn into some homophobia lesson for the crew, was excellent and perfectly in line with both characters. Cortez's pain is poignant and comes across as real, as is the help you can give him along the way.
He works and was a great addition to the Normandy.
The option to kill or kick Cortez off the ship?
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#52
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 02:52
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SebastianDA wrote...
Yes.
Yes, I did. I am not going to go into it, but I went back to work the next day, and while I mourn the loss, I definitely have not brought it up at work.
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sounds like perfect script for gay pronHaristo wrote...
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It's because he's gay.
Whoa, Cortez is gay?
that's kinda of a minour spoiler here but yeah... he's gay and his husband has been abducted by the collectors.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 02:54
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Tietj wrote...
I'm really not one to call people out for being homophobic but if you wanted to kick him out of an airlock the moment he mentioned his husband, as one poster said, you are homophobic.
That would be me and I am not homophobic thank you . I just dislike the ****** thing . That's just how I feel sorry.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 02:54
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Kierkegaardianite wrote...
After that first "Here we go again" moment, Cortez is a pretty great character. That is precisely because he's designed to be a great character, rather than a gay character: he's not defined by his sexual preference. His banter with Vega, which I immediately worried was going to turn into some homophobia lesson for the crew, was excellent and perfectly in line with both characters. Cortez's pain is poignant and comes across as real, as is the help you can give him along the way.
I will agree with this, that most of his conversations (except the Grizzly Bear reference which had me laughing) had zero to do with his sexual orientation, as it should be. Kind of like they dropped Traynor's orientation but for the rest of the game, I don't believe it ever came up - because sexual orientation shouldn't matter.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 02:55
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PinkDiamondstl wrote...
Tietj wrote...
I'm really not one to call people out for being homophobic but if you wanted to kick him out of an airlock the moment he mentioned his husband, as one poster said, you are homophobic.
That would be me and I am not homophobic thank you . I just dislike the ****** thing . That's just how I feel sorry.
Um, what does "dislike the ****** thing" mean if you aren't homophobic? It's not a disease, you're not going to catch "the gay" and start listening to the Village People or something.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 02:55
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At least he doesn't fall into the annoying gay stereotype. He's the least annoying gay character I've seen in a video game so far.
Gay people aren't like that, I've known a few of them myself. Their still people goddamn it.
(to answer you before you ask, I'm straight)
Gay people aren't like that, I've known a few of them myself. Their still people goddamn it.
(to answer you before you ask, I'm straight)
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 02:55
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You dislike the ****** thing but you're not homophobic. I see.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 02:57
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Yes but my Dad is and thats how he was trained, if a dude came up to me crying about his dead wife I'd punch him in the faceMedhiaNox wrote...
You people who claim they're supposed to be military professions - and therefore should show no emotion - are so obviously not military professionals.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 02:57
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I smell a gay argument coming around the corner.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 02:58
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I know a lot of annoying people straight and gay. Probably many examples on this board lol
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 02:58
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PinkDiamondstl wrote...
Legion64 wrote...
I smell a gay argument coming around the corner.
You mite need this then.
This should be replaced with the biotic shield that we saw during the school mission.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 02:59
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Tietj wrote...
You dislike the ****** thing but you're not homophobic. I see.
Yes that's right .
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 02:59
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DinoSteve wrote...
Yes but my Dad is and thats how he was trained, if a dude came up to me crying about his dead wife I'd punch him in the faceMedhiaNox wrote...
You people who claim they're supposed to be military professions - and therefore should show no emotion - are so obviously not military professionals.
The military doesn't dehumanize you, jack. The whole point is forming cohesive units within units into one force. You're supposed to be comrades. The military doesn't make you a terrible person, you're just naturally a terrible person
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 03:00
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To be more precise, his husband was lost at Ferris Fields, which I believe happens during ME2 between Freedom's Progress and Horizon.
I would hope Shepard would be sensitive enough to not mention what happened to the abductees.
I would hope Shepard would be sensitive enough to not mention what happened to the abductees.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 03:01
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they train you to kill full stop
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 03:02
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DinoSteve wrote...
Yes but my Dad is and thats how he was trained, if a dude came up to me crying about his dead wife I'd punch him in the faceMedhiaNox wrote...
You people who claim they're supposed to be military professions - and therefore should show no emotion - are so obviously not military professionals.
That seems sociopathic...
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 03:03
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There is no "don't ask don't tell" in ME universe?
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 03:03
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OperatingWookie wrote...
DinoSteve wrote...
Yes but my Dad is and thats how he was trained, if a dude came up to me crying about his dead wife I'd punch him in the faceMedhiaNox wrote...
You people who claim they're supposed to be military professions - and therefore should show no emotion - are so obviously not military professionals.
That seems sociopathic...
I would agree.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 03:05
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HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...
To be more precise, his husband was lost at Ferris Fields, which I believe happens during ME2 between Freedom's Progress and Horizon.
I would hope Shepard would be sensitive enough to not mention what happened to the abductees.
"Your husband was abducted by Collectors?! That must mean he was melted to squishy puddles of liquidfied DNA to make a human reaper on a Collector ship! Neat huh?!"
Cortez:
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 03:05
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i really liked his character. it was just a friendly guy with some issue's.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 03:06
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There's no "dont ask don't tell" in our universe, either.
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Agreed. He was a pretty cool character.sackyhack wrote...
What? Cortez is a bro. Just talk to him a little bit and he'll stop sniffling about his husband.
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Posté 15 mars 2012 - 03:06
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HappyHappyJoyJoy wrote...
OperatingWookie wrote...
DinoSteve wrote...
Yes but my Dad is and thats how he was trained, if a dude came up to me crying about his dead wife I'd punch him in the faceMedhiaNox wrote...
You people who claim they're supposed to be military professions - and therefore should show no emotion - are so obviously not military professionals.
That seems sociopathic...
I would agree.
They are trained to be able to disconnect but they still feel it one way or another, hence why there is a lot of smoking and drinking and hooker-seeking.
