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[ticklefist]

Removed. This is an attack thread by a guy who let the gaming media fill his head with steam.

Modifié par ticklefist, 15 mars 2012 - 03:49 .

[BaladasDemnevanni]

Dreogan wrote...

I'm not going to reject this post. That would be too easy. Instead, I'll encourage it a bit-- let's go on a little thought journey.

We have one camp now that will not buy anything else Bioware makes unless they first show us they're capable of telling a story with a proper resolution. These people see themselves as forcing Bioware to follow through on its "creative vision" of Mass Effect.

We have a second camp, seen in the original post, that demands Bioware not make any changes to their "creative vision." For some reason, these people do not realize Bioware already changed their "creative vision" in the last five minutes of the game.

The end result is no matter what Bioware does, a good chunk of people will simply not touch a Bioware game again. The fantastic part of this is none of this would have happened if Bioware had simply provided an acceptable end (as in closure, catharsis, and no violation of the writer-reader contract) the first time. Karma's going to bite Bioware for this, no matter what option they take.

So, kind of like trying to bring the Geth and the Quarians together, only without the charm/intimidate options. Kinda ironic.

[piemanz]

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

I'd much much much much....much rather see the ME universe continued. I know it will be continued, they have all but said as much.

The next ME will focus on the next hero, the one who transitions the universe from post-apocalypse to livability. Watch.

You people are like spoon-fed babies, seriously. The most important questions are answered. You have the choice to believe what you like, but most likely 99% of all remaining questions will be answered via DLC/sequels.

This.

[Dreogan]

Tedler wrote...

Sergeant Dre wrote...

No business will be lost.

The few 37,000 that say the endings suck are a very small percentage of the buyers. And most of the loyal fans don't even bother to come on these forums, and I don't know why I do.

Do you seriously think the numbers of those unsatisfied with the ending are limited to those who voted on that poll? And how do you back up your ridiculous claim that the loyal fans stay away from these forums?

No true scotsman.

[Qutayba]

Sergeant Dre wrote...

No business will be lost.

The few 37,000 that say the endings suck are a very small percentage of the buyers. And most of the loyal fans don't even bother to come on these forums, and I don't know why I do.

You're right, participants in a self-selecting forum will not get you any kind of accurate statistics.  Just because the people who don't like the ending on the forum can't speak for all players doesn't mean everyone not on the forum liked the ending.

[ramdog7]

Check the date he became an member. either obvious Troll or Indoctrinated slave, either way brainless babbling idiot

[Crypto109]

yes dlc or patch it please yes Mass Effect has been the best for me and it will always be the best for me ALWAYS and i would love to see an improvement on the ending and i will spend as much money as they want just to see this

[Xusa]

PKchu wrote...

I don't get the idea of Bioware making games is for Bioware's sake and we don't know anything.

"
You're watching too much drama TV series where they explain everything in order for common people to understand and take ease at a story which is (normally) better than their simple life."

Common people? Seriously?

That's like the most arrogant thing I've ever seen posted on this website.

Maybe it is, but that's how it is done. Think of it like this: When you enter a mega store, everything is explained so common people understand what the product in sale does in the simplest way possible. But when you enter a store especialized in kitchen, PC, forniture, they don't do so, because whoever buy things in those shops already know about the products they're buying.

TV is the same thing. If you watch a Gaming show on TV it'll probably look dumb, if you do so on, let's say, IGN, it'll look more suitable for gamers.

[Pedro Costa]

JeffZero wrote...

I do so love getting lumped in with the 'you'll buy anything' brigade on the very few occasions I take something seriously enough on the internet to get involved to this extent. No, I really won't. Trust me.

Let it go, if they think they're Jung, by all means, let them.

To OP: Glad you liked the endings and therefore do not need to download the DLC we're asking for.
Wonderful thing, having choices, isn't it?

[Space Kookie]

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

I'd much much much much....much rather see the ME universe continued. I know it will be continued, they have all but said as much.

The next ME will focus on the next hero, the one who transitions the universe from post-apocalypse to livability. Watch.

You people are like spoon-fed babies, seriously. The most important questions are answered. You have the choice to believe what you like, but most likely 99% of all remaining questions will be answered via DLC/sequels.

I'm not nececerily AGAINST the idea behind the endings, just the way they were delivered. There should have been more divercity in them, at least a few choices could have mattered O.o I imported my character from ME1 to 2, from 2 to 3 and nothing, NOTHING, not a single ****ing choice except for my stupid appearence mattered for the endings. Bioware promised us customly tailored endings. Down to that, they just promised something they didn't fullfil.

I don't dislike the idea of a "godly" character creating the reapers, bla bla bla all that stuff, you know it. I just dislike the way it's being shoved down our throats

[Soldatto Rosso]

The whole "art integrity" argument for the ending flew completely out the window the moment Bioware PUT A FREAKING AD FOR DLC AFTER THE FREAKING EPILOGUE.

[Xusa]

piemanz wrote...

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

I'd much much much much....much rather see the ME universe continued. I know it will be continued, they have all but said as much.

The next ME will focus on the next hero, the one who transitions the universe from post-apocalypse to livability. Watch.

You people are like spoon-fed babies, seriously. The most important questions are answered. You have the choice to believe what you like, but most likely 99% of all remaining questions will be answered via DLC/sequels.

This.

This²

[evolsokar]

We don't want a rewritten ending just more options, give us closure, is not making important choices, this is choosing which crayon you like most!

[nitefyre410]

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Xusa wrote...

What I see here is people who aparently didn't ever read a book. Most of the stories end just after the good guy's mission is completed. And they let you imagine how everything proceeds after. That or they make a sequel. Some of you actually show good arguments and motives, but most of you just want something that you normally shouldn't.

 

You are really  failing step one... 

I don't even... 

Raising Action, Climax, Falling Action   

The end of the Mission  where the Good guy confronts the antagonist  is the Climax  ... the story does not  end  at the  Climax...    

Modifié par nitefyre410, 15 mars 2012 - 03:52 .

[Halberd96]

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

Don't change a thing Bioware.

Also, no business will be lost. These whiners will buy any DLC, and they certainly will buy ME4, or ME: Miranda or whatever.

This is true. I doubt people will stop buying Bioware games because of this lol. Obviously some people will but not enough to make a major difference.

[xeNNN]

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

I'd much much much much....much rather see the ME universe continued. I know it will be continued, they have all but said as much.

The next ME will focus on the next hero, the one who transitions the universe from post-apocalypse to livability. Watch.

You people are like spoon-fed babies, seriously. The most important questions are answered. You have the choice to believe what you like, but most likely 99% of all remaining questions will be answered via DLC/sequels.

the only way im buying another mass effect game is if they dont crap up the ending though it will probably spoil it for me i want to make sure that i dont buy anything to hastily provided the ending isnt garbage ill buy it and enjoy it. 

i did the same with assasins creed revelations and i love that game so. 

[Xusa]

ramdog7 wrote...

Check the date he became an member. either obvious Troll or Indoctrinated slave, either way brainless babbling idiot

Maybe the second. The reapers made me like the ending... DAMN!

Don't judge a man a troll just because he doesn't share your opinion.

[Wowlock]

Xusa wrote...

savionen wrote...

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

How was there not closure? The Reapers were stopped. Universe saved.

Who was star kid?
Who created the reapers?
Is Shepard alive or dead?
What happened to the Normandy? Where is it?
What happened to all the crew members?
Are all the people that were on the Citadel dead?
What happened to all the factions and races?
Are they all doomed to die in Sol due to lack of fuel, supplies, etc?
Are the mass relays really destroyed? Therefore dooming the galactic economy?
Are the reapers really gone? All 3 endings could be conveyed either way.

You're watching too much drama TV series where they explain everything in order for common people to understand and take ease at a story which is (normally) better than their simple life.

I agree some of the answers you are asking demand some kind of answer such as "What happened to all the factions and races?". But as I said, a sequel would explain that easily and a lot better than, maybe, just a dlc.

I feel so sad for you and mostly, I feel sad for the people who has to put up with you in your life....

And you are convinced that there will be a Sequel ? To the ending game of a Trilogy ? Where Bioware said countless times that ''this wrap things up ! '' . But you have a point, after all they are whoring for more money and the lies we heard before like '' choice is yours ''.... They can simply lie about this game being the last one as well...

And no, I won't be buying it... I have enough self-respect for that...

[Tedler]

Xusa wrote...

What I see here is people who aparently didn't ever read a book. Most of the stories end just after the good guy's mission is completed. And they let you imagine how everything proceeds after. That or they make a sequel. Some of you actually show good arguments and motives, but most of you just want something that you normally shouldn't.

You must read some awful books.

[Xusa]

DarkLord_PT wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

I do so love getting lumped in with the 'you'll buy anything' brigade on the very few occasions I take something seriously enough on the internet to get involved to this extent. No, I really won't. Trust me.

Let it go, if they think they're Jung, by all means, let them.

To OP: Glad you liked the endings and therefore do not need to download the DLC we're asking for.
Wonderful thing, having choices, isn't it?

I agree, the ending gives you 3 of them. cool, huh?

[Xusa]

Tedler wrote...

Xusa wrote...

What I see here is people who aparently didn't ever read a book. Most of the stories end just after the good guy's mission is completed. And they let you imagine how everything proceeds after. That or they make a sequel. Some of you actually show good arguments and motives, but most of you just want something that you normally shouldn't.

You must read some awful books.

I do. Sherlock Holmes is terrible. Voltaire is a terrible author too.

[piemanz]

Wowlock wrote...

Xusa wrote...

savionen wrote...

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

How was there not closure? The Reapers were stopped. Universe saved.

Who was star kid?
Who created the reapers?
Is Shepard alive or dead?
What happened to the Normandy? Where is it?
What happened to all the crew members?
Are all the people that were on the Citadel dead?
What happened to all the factions and races?
Are they all doomed to die in Sol due to lack of fuel, supplies, etc?
Are the mass relays really destroyed? Therefore dooming the galactic economy?
Are the reapers really gone? All 3 endings could be conveyed either way.

You're watching too much drama TV series where they explain everything in order for common people to understand and take ease at a story which is (normally) better than their simple life.

I agree some of the answers you are asking demand some kind of answer such as "What happened to all the factions and races?". But as I said, a sequel would explain that easily and a lot better than, maybe, just a dlc.

I feel so sad for you and mostly, I feel sad for the people who has to put up with you in your life....

And you are convinced that there will be a Sequel ? To the ending game of a Trilogy ? Where Bioware said countless times that ''this wrap things up ! '' . But you have a point, after all they are whoring for more money and the lies we heard before like '' choice is yours ''.... They can simply lie about this game being the last one as well...

And no, I won't be buying it... I have enough self-respect for that...

They said it was the end of Shepards story. They also said countless times it's not the last game based in the ME universe.

[Warrior Craess]

Xusa wrote...

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

Don't change a thing Bioware.

Also, no business will be lost. These whiners will buy any DLC, and they certainly will buy ME4, or ME: Miranda or whatever.

Exactly. It's just like Star Wars. Everybody hates Star Wars for Epi 1,2 and 3 and yet, everyone went to the cinemas to see them.

And troll? Just because I disagree with you? Grow up.

Actually I never saw 2 and 3 because Episode 1 sucked so badly. I've refused to see any of the redigialized films or buy any meorablia, and almost didn't buy SW:TOR (I bought it becuase bioware made it, and I have until now trusted their story telling). it's a really poor comparison though, due to the fact the episode 1 pretty much sucked from the begiing, where as ME 3 was pretty freaking amazing until the last 10 minutes.

[Xusa]

Well, I can answer why the endings seems so much alike. It would be hard to make a sequel in which the prologue could vary THAT HUGELY. That's how I see it, anyways.

[WQFNHJNHNFNFNFBFNFN]

Xusa wrote...

savionen wrote...

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

How was there not closure? The Reapers were stopped. Universe saved.

Who was star kid?
Who created the reapers?
Is Shepard alive or dead?
What happened to the Normandy? Where is it?
What happened to all the crew members?
Are all the people that were on the Citadel dead?
What happened to all the factions and races?
Are they all doomed to die in Sol due to lack of fuel, supplies, etc?
Are the mass relays really destroyed? Therefore dooming the galactic economy?
Are the reapers really gone? All 3 endings could be conveyed either way.

You're watching too much drama TV series where they explain everything in order for common people to understand and take ease at a story which is (normally) better than their simple life.

I agree some of the answers you are asking demand some kind of answer such as "What happened to all the factions and races?". But as I said, a sequel would explain that easily and a lot better than, maybe, just a dlc.

First of all, don't use the phrase common people.  It makes you seem exceedingly arrogant.

Second of all, nothing in the Mass Effect series is particularly complex.  There are shades of moral ambiguity, but there is never any point where the overall plot isn't presented in a clear straightforward fashion.  This isn't Lost, Donnie Darko, or House of Leaves.  If it were like these other works, then a vague ending would be perfectly appropriate.  However, you can't have a straightforward space opera then end it on something vague and inconclusive.

If you agree that there are questions that need to be answered, why exactly can't that be explored in (hopefully free) DLC?  Why should fans have to pay another 60 dollars to get the closure they were promised with this release?