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[Xusa]

Foulpancake wrote...

seriously the "don't change it for the whiners" crap again? Has Bioware spoken yet? With the VERY well written and thought out "Indoctrination" theory, only a fool would completely dismiss it, and all the hints bioware has thrown out. You have NO IDEA if they are even done yet. All of your whining about "whiners" could be amounting to is you insisting Bioware keep an ending...they never intended on BEING the ending...so chill out, let them speak first

I lie the indoctrination theory. It's a good one. What I'm asking isn't about BioWare leaving the game as it is now. It's about they doing what they want to, and not what the fanbase tells them to.

[stevesyanks17hotmail.com]

Foulpancake wrote...

seriously the "don't change it for the whiners" crap again? Has Bioware spoken yet? With the VERY well written and thought out "Indoctrination" theory, only a fool would completely dismiss it, and all the hints bioware has thrown out. You have NO IDEA if they are even done yet. All of your whining about "whiners" could be amounting to is you insisting Bioware keep an ending...they never intended on BEING the ending...so chill out, let them speak first

Indoctrination has more holes than the ending.

Why is the S G ending the same for all 3, since 2 out of the 3 he would have been indoctrinated, not stopping the Reapers.

If him "waking" up is from a dream, why is it in a different place from where he was knocked out, with no beam in sight?

Why would they give him a destruction chance at all?

Why would they have the beam up at all, if they could just turn it off?

Why, when Shep is walking towards and obviously choosing destroy, would they not kill him, or at least stop him?

etc., etc., etc.

[Arokel]

I might just show Javik how to use the airlock...

[Warrior Craess]

Xusa wrote...

PKchu wrote...

I don't get the idea of Bioware making games is for Bioware's sake and we don't know anything.

"
You're watching too much drama TV series where they explain everything in order for common people to understand and take ease at a story which is (normally) better than their simple life."

Common people? Seriously?

That's like the most arrogant thing I've ever seen posted on this website.

Maybe it is, but that's how it is done. Think of it like this: When you enter a mega store, everything is explained so common people understand what the product in sale does in the simplest way possible. But when you enter a store especialized in kitchen, PC, forniture, they don't do so, because whoever buy things in those shops already know about the products they're buying.

TV is the same thing. If you watch a Gaming show on TV it'll probably look dumb, if you do so on, let's say, IGN, it'll look more suitable for gamers.

LOL poor choice of an example, becuase in all theose cases your taught how to create or perform something. It's an interactive thing with you, as a person with choices, having control of the end product.  This is what Bioware promised and this is what bioware failed to deliver.  

[Xusa]

Tedler wrote...

Xusa wrote...

Tedler wrote...

Xusa wrote...

Well, I can answer why the endings seems so much alike. It would be hard to make a sequel in which the prologue could vary THAT HUGELY. That's how I see it, anyways.

Yeah, because it's not like Mass Effect 1 and 2 had you make major decisions with widely varying implications. Oh wait!

It had some hard implications yes. But imagine a "Mass Effect 4" in which in the beginning there could be mass relays or not, there could be reapers or not, etc. You have to agree that would change EVERYTHING.

Mass relays get blown to pieces in all three endings. And whether they're controlled by Shepard and hidden in the darkest corner of the universe or simply blown up, the Reapers are out of the picture for any potential sequels.

I know, read carefully, please. I said that all the endings have the same to them, because if otherwise there would be too much to put in the next ME game.

[Caz Neerg]

Xusa wrote...

Caz Neerg wrote...

It's going to be very interesting seeing the reactions of the ending defenders if it turns out this is an elaborate PR stunt and there is still a "real" ending following the portion we have played. I predict most of them will simply disappear and not say a word.

if BioWare creates an alternate ending people will point the finger and say: "THAT'S JUST BECAUSE I SAID SO." Even if they had it in mind earlier. That's how people are.

Who cares?  As long as they make it, and it's good, why would it matter what their reason or timeline for making it was?

[Deltoran]

I would rather have closure with the current crew and allow the next ME game to have new stuff...that's what we were promised. And I do hope all this business about DLC ending is true.

[Enraged Sympathizer]

Xusa wrote...

So there are people talking crap about the ending and saying the series doesn't deserve that or w/e, they're going as far as to do this www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/03/14/mass-effect-3-petition-raises-40k-criticisms.aspx (That's a good way to make your bull**** worth something, at least).

But I wanted to ask you: Don't listen. It is not to listen because the story is yours, you are the creatores or w/e. Besides all crap they are asking for there is one thing I almost agree with them. We need to know how our actions throughout the series changed the galaxy, and how will it be done? Not patching the story, but with a sequel. And that's why you won't listen, because this game has everything in it to have a sequel where everything made by Shepard will be accounted for.

I know, the mass relays were destroyed. So what? There is nothing stopping BioWare from creating a game that takes place on a single system (or a couple of them, since you can travel through near systems using FTL travel.

I would go as far as to say that nothing stops BioWare from creating a game that will take place in multiple systems separately that in the end will be united by some sort of discovery or whatsoever.

Dude, do you realize the amount of plot holes -.- 
Shepard's story is (almost) over. Face it. But Mass Effect can still live after Shepard's event. There will also be more to the story as DLCs will come and so far we don't actually know how Shepard's story will REALLY end.

So I am asking once again. Please, BioWare, do what you want to do with the game and don't listen to them. Because so far, Mass Effect has been one of the best franchises I've played these years.

<now you can throw the stones at me>

[Xusa]

Warrior Craess wrote...

Xusa wrote...

PKchu wrote...

I don't get the idea of Bioware making games is for Bioware's sake and we don't know anything.

"
You're watching too much drama TV series where they explain everything in order for common people to understand and take ease at a story which is (normally) better than their simple life."

Common people? Seriously?

That's like the most arrogant thing I've ever seen posted on this website.

Maybe it is, but that's how it is done. Think of it like this: When you enter a mega store, everything is explained so common people understand what the product in sale does in the simplest way possible. But when you enter a store especialized in kitchen, PC, forniture, they don't do so, because whoever buy things in those shops already know about the products they're buying.

TV is the same thing. If you watch a Gaming show on TV it'll probably look dumb, if you do so on, let's say, IGN, it'll look more suitable for gamers.

LOL poor choice of an example, becuase in all theose cases your taught how to create or perform something. It's an interactive thing with you, as a person with choices, having control of the end product.  This is what Bioware promised and this is what bioware failed to deliver.  

And you do have the control. But the game is incredible in simulating "life" because in life there are something you can't control exactly how it goes, and the game presents you that just too well.

[Enraged Sympathizer]

The amount of plot holes is incredible and you want them to leave it? Really? That's like eating half a sandwich and refusing to finish it -.-

[Xusa]

Caz Neerg wrote...

Xusa wrote...

Caz Neerg wrote...

It's going to be very interesting seeing the reactions of the ending defenders if it turns out this is an elaborate PR stunt and there is still a "real" ending following the portion we have played. I predict most of them will simply disappear and not say a word.

if BioWare creates an alternate ending people will point the finger and say: "THAT'S JUST BECAUSE I SAID SO." Even if they had it in mind earlier. That's how people are.

Who cares?  As long as they make it, and it's good, why would it matter what their reason or timeline for making it was?

The people who are asking for this and created pull and w/e care. As you'll see once this happens (if it happens)

[meiwow2]

Xusa wrote...

Don't listen. It is not to listen because the story is yours

I don't know if you've heard but... mass effect is a game about player choice.
Bioware has said that the player shapes the story... haven't you heard?

Modifié par meiwow2, 15 mars 2012 - 04:12 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Spectre_Shepard wrote...

patch it, bioware. or you're gonna be losing a lot of business.

No. If they patch it will upset another section of their fanbase, two wrongs do not make a right.

If they do ANYTHING, it has to be in the form of "optional" DLC for those who dislike it.

Don't ****** on everyone else just because your pissed off.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 15 mars 2012 - 04:12 .

[Xusa]

Enraged Sympathizer wrote...

The amount of plot holes is incredible and you want them to leave it? Really? That's like eating half a sandwich and refusing to finish it -.-

As I said before: I don't want them to leave it. I want them to not listen to those "new ending" rants. That's all.

[Caz Neerg]

Xusa wrote...

Caz Neerg wrote...

Xusa wrote...

Caz Neerg wrote...

It's going to be very interesting seeing the reactions of the ending defenders if it turns out this is an elaborate PR stunt and there is still a "real" ending following the portion we have played. I predict most of them will simply disappear and not say a word.

if BioWare creates an alternate ending people will point the finger and say: "THAT'S JUST BECAUSE I SAID SO." Even if they had it in mind earlier. That's how people are.

Who cares?  As long as they make it, and it's good, why would it matter what their reason or timeline for making it was?

The people who are asking for this and created pull and w/e care. As you'll see once this happens (if it happens)

I think you'll find that out of the tens of thousands of people involved, most will ultimately just be happy to get a proper ending.  They won't care why or how it happened, and once it's in their hands, they certainly won't be wasting time here instead of playing it.

[DyneEnigma]

Ok OP did you miss the part where Mass Effect is a TRILOGY? Its been said thousands of times. This was the end game for this series. No sequel. In fact I don't even care for a sequel if I'm stuck with these crappy options at the end of THIS game.

Bethesda had DLC to fix the ending on Fallout 3 and the ending to that game wasn't even a 100th as bad as this one.

If they can do it, Bioware sure as hell can, seeing as how Bioware has been supposedly known for listening to their fans. Hopefully they listen to us on this.

Until then I have sealed my copy of ME3 away and just can't bring myself to play it. Oh well. More time for course work now.

[Xusa]

meiwow2 wrote...

Xusa wrote...

Don't listen. It is not to listen because the story is yours

I don't know if you've heard but... mass effect is a game about player choice.
Bioware has said that the player shapes the story... haven't you heard?

And you do have choices. A lot of them. If at some point you had to choose between options you didn't like, sorry. That's how life is and that's how BioWare wonderfully simulated.

[raving rabbid]

Xusa wrote...

Tedler wrote...

Xusa wrote...

Tedler wrote...

Xusa wrote...

What I see here is people who aparently didn't ever read a book. Most of the stories end just after the good guy's mission is completed. And they let you imagine how everything proceeds after. That or they make a sequel. Some of you actually show good arguments and motives, but most of you just want something that you normally shouldn't.

You must read some awful books.

I do. Sherlock Holmes is terrible. Voltaire is a terrible author too.

Are you serious? Sherlock Holmes novels wrap up every mystery in a nice little box, answering all the questions presented and explaining how he came to those conclusions. Your comparison fails miserably.

I didn't compare, but since you did: Every book let's pieces to be answered in the next, that's even clearer when it comes to Prof. Moriarty.

you mean the part where holmes***********spoiler****** "dies"  in The Final Problem by falling and taking 
moriarty with him but  later the book The Adventure of The Empty House says he used his baritsu to "push" moriarty off and faked his death changing the end and death of Sherlock Holmes.

[Caz Neerg]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Spectre_Shepard wrote...

patch it, bioware. or you're gonna be losing a lot of business.

No. If they patch it will upset another section of their fanbase, two wrongs do not make a right.

If they do ANYTHING, it has to be in the form of "optional" DLC for those who dislike it.

Don't ****** on everyone else just because your pissed off.

We don't have any reason to believe there are enough people who like the endings for it to make any sense to factor their concerns into the equation.

[Xusa]

DyneEnigma wrote...

Ok OP did you miss the part where Mass Effect is a TRILOGY? Its been said thousands of times. This was the end game for this series. No sequel. In fact I don't even care for a sequel if I'm stuck with these crappy options at the end of THIS game.

Bethesda had DLC to fix the ending on Fallout 3 and the ending to that game wasn't even a 100th as bad as this one.

If they can do it, Bioware sure as hell can, seeing as how Bioware has been supposedly known for listening to their fans. Hopefully they listen to us on this.

Until then I have sealed my copy of ME3 away and just can't bring myself to play it. Oh well. More time for course work now.

http://www.gameinfor...d-won-39-t.aspx

Say what?

[Dragoonlordz]

Caz Neerg wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Spectre_Shepard wrote...

patch it, bioware. or you're gonna be losing a lot of business.

No. If they patch it will upset another section of their fanbase, two wrongs do not make a right.

If they do ANYTHING, it has to be in the form of "optional" DLC for those who dislike it.

Don't ****** on everyone else just because your pissed off.

We don't have any reason to believe there are enough people who like the endings for it to make any sense to factor their concerns into the equation.

You only have around 40k amount of people who have said they did not like it. Don't get ahead of yourself there lad. You are free to assume what you wish from that poll but by no means does that equal as factual that not a lot of people liked it. In my own thread only around day old already have dozens of people saying they enjoyed it. You do not speak for the millions who bought it only the 40k who moaned about it.

[ObserverStatus]

No! Unacceptable! If Bioware doesn't give me my purple explosion ending, I'll be fit to be tied.

[Xusa]

Caz Neerg wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Spectre_Shepard wrote...

patch it, bioware. or you're gonna be losing a lot of business.

No. If they patch it will upset another section of their fanbase, two wrongs do not make a right.

If they do ANYTHING, it has to be in the form of "optional" DLC for those who dislike it.

Don't ****** on everyone else just because your pissed off.

We don't have any reason to believe there are enough people who like the endings for it to make any sense to factor their concerns into the equation.

I actually laughed at this post.

[Intelwolves]

The ending(s) seem to be thrown together at the last minute or that's how it it looks. The Earth assault was way to short. which I'm lumping in with the ending. I do not think the ending(s) of Mass Effect 3 are equal or better than the Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 game ending(s). Also, the fact that multiplayer affects single player campaign. Which dose not help the game overall. That's my opinion.

The fact is the Mass Effect 3 endings did not sit will with a lot of the players and the player polls I have seen say 90% or more agree that the Mass Effect 3 endings should be worked on and or changed.

[Aedan276]

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

Don't change a thing Bioware.

Also, no business will be lost. These whiners will buy any DLC, and they certainly will buy ME4, or ME: Miranda or whatever.

Business has already been lost.