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Do not patch the ending, BioWare.


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Doc089 wrote...

Xusa, my curiosity makes me ask, what did you think of ME1 and ME2? And what did you play the three as? Paragon/Renegade/Paragade?


Iliked the first one a little. It has some problems regarding the size of the citadel (I thought it was just too big. The citadel from ME3 is perfect) and the menus (which were confusing and... strange. Not to say the game explained little of the ME universe and u had to, or delve deep into the story to understand things or pass a long time into the codexes.

The second was huge. I loved it in many ways. Ok, the story isn't as deep as the other 2, but still ****ing good.

I played the 3 as... dunno, I had only a little more than a one bar as renegade the rest full paragon.

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When fourty five thousand people are telling you you're doing it wrong, you're probably doing it wrong.

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Xusa wrote...
If the DLC has something to the sequel, yes, it is hard.


Well worry about it if it ever happens.  I seriously doubt they bundle the two together but hey, they have done stupid things before.

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Xusa wrote...

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People saying you wouldn't buy ME4:

You're quite clearly lying, or maybe new to the series with 3. Anyone who has played all the way through would have to buy any new ME. It's an addiction.


Quite true. I only bought ME3 instead of asking to play someone else's one because I love the previous 2 ones and because of the genial multiplayer it has.


It's called pirating and used games. If people end up giving into their wants but don't want to give Bioware any of their money, then they can do that. So nice try.

Not that i condone pirating, but it's still an option. DAIII i'll buy used when it's out.

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dkear1 wrote...

Xusa wrote...
If the DLC has something to the sequel, yes, it is hard.


Well worry about it if it ever happens.  I seriously doubt they bundle the two together but hey, they have done stupid things before.


They may have, but none that I actually cared about or noticed. Everything is great so far (at least regarding Mass Effect)

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Hey look, another mindless drone who doesn't care about product quality and ethics. I hope that cave is comfortable.

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Change your title OP, all caps is something that is frowned upon. Personally I'm surprised your Topic is still unlocked, usually all caps titles are changed or locked ASAP.

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Xusa wrote...

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

People saying you wouldn't buy ME4:

You're quite clearly lying, or maybe new to the series with 3. Anyone who has played all the way through would have to buy any new ME. It's an addiction.


Quite true. I only bought ME3 instead of asking to play someone else's one because I love the previous 2 ones and because of the genial multiplayer it has.


It's called pirating and used games. If people end up giving into their wants but don't want to give Bioware any of their money, then they can do that. So nice try.

Not that i condone pirating, but it's still an option. DAIII i'll buy used when it's out.


It is pirating to play my friend's mass effect just because I didn't buy it? lol

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dkear1 wrote...

Xusa wrote...

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I find this recent spate of 'DON'T DO IT' posts a bit odd.

Can you elaborate a bit on your reasoning? Why do you care if they listen or not?

Does it effect you in any way if they do listen to customer feedback? Does it effect you if they do not?


Yes, effecting the story will effect me.

I don't want them to listen to this "cosumer feedback" because they know how to mange the story  because so far it has been great and if they have anything to add to it, that it is something they wanted, not something that their "strong fanbase" asked.


Guess what, you are free to not download the fix........problem solved.  Was that really so hard?


That only works if it is not done through a patch imposed on the retail game. Which is why I said IF they do anything for those who dislike it then make it in the from of optional DLC. I will slap people so hard their heads won't stop spinning until the day we were do find a Mass Relay if they destroy my enjoyment of what they already created out of spite not wishing to simply pick the optional route of DLC where both sides get what they want.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 15 mars 2012 - 04:42 .


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Elite Midget wrote...

Change your title OP, all caps is something that is frowned upon. Personally I'm surprised your Topic is still unlocked, usually all caps titles are changed or locked ASAP.


Sorry, didn't think about that. You have point.

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At this point, with the negative feedback, they should release something. It's smart business. It probably won't get back the people who already may have returned their games, but it will make the people you want to buy your DLC happier. Personally I don't see the point in getting any DLC for ME3 with how I feel about the ending. And seeing as the only DLC I bought for ME 2 was the Shadow Broker one, I think I can safely say I don't need it.

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Xusa wrote...

So there are people talking crap about the ending and saying the series doesn't deserve that or w/e, they're going as far as to do this www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/03/14/mass-effect-3-petition-raises-40k-criticisms.aspx (That's a good way to make your bull**** worth something, at least).

But I wanted to ask you: Don't listen. It is not to listen because the story is yours, you are the creatores or w/e. Besides all crap they are asking for there is one thing I almost agree with them. We need to know how our actions throughout the series changed the galaxy, and how will it be done? Not patching the story, but with a sequel. And that's why you won't listen, because this game has everything in it to have a sequel where everything made by Shepard will be accounted for.

I know, the mass relays were destroyed. So what? There is nothing stopping BioWare from creating a game that takes place on a single system (or a couple of them, since you can travel through near systems using FTL travel.

I would go as far as to say that nothing stops BioWare from creating a game that will take place in multiple systems separately that in the end will be united by some sort of discovery or whatsoever.

Shepard's story is (almost) over. Face it. But Mass Effect can still live after Shepard's event. There will also be more to the story as DLCs will come and so far we don't actually know how Shepard's story will REALLY end.

So I am asking once again. Please, BioWare, do what you want to do with the game and don't listen to them. Because so far, Mass Effect has been one of the best franchises I've played these years.

<now you can throw the stones at me>



Why bother throwing anything? You're entitled to your opinion, but the level of intellectual rigor and logic in your argument (not to mention your grammar and spelling) makes it clear that your ideas are without merit or value.

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Xusa wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Xusa wrote...

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

People saying you wouldn't buy ME4:

You're quite clearly lying, or maybe new to the series with 3. Anyone who has played all the way through would have to buy any new ME. It's an addiction.


Quite true. I only bought ME3 instead of asking to play someone else's one because I love the previous 2 ones and because of the genial multiplayer it has.


It's called pirating and used games. If people end up giving into their wants but don't want to give Bioware any of their money, then they can do that. So nice try.

Not that i condone pirating, but it's still an option. DAIII i'll buy used when it's out.


It is pirating to play my friend's mass effect just because I didn't buy it? lol



No my response was towards steveyanks and the first sentence in your response to him "quite true"

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GreyhameBioware wrote...

At this point, with the negative feedback, they should release something. It's smart business. It probably won't get back the people who already may have returned their games, but it will make the people you want to buy your DLC happier. Personally I don't see the point in getting any DLC for ME3 with how I feel about the ending. And seeing as the only DLC I bought for ME 2 was the Shadow Broker one, I think I can safely say I don't need it.


You missed Arrival, it was pretty important. And Kasumi Goto is a lovable character (and the story behind her is also pretty good)

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While I whole heatedly respect the opinion of those who like the endings, and those who politely state so, I do find threads like these ironic.

Simply because for those who do not like the endings are the ones usually labelled as whiners, kiddies, entitled and what have you. And here is a thread with the shoe on the other foot.

For those of you I mentioned as the former, have a nice day.

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Christ, five pages and not a decent defense of the ending in sight.


its ok they will eventually they're just fighting eachother philosophically at the moment with space magic:wizard:. lol

Modifié par xeNNN, 15 mars 2012 - 04:42 .


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Sainta117 wrote...

Xusa wrote...

So there are people talking crap about the ending and saying the series doesn't deserve that or w/e, they're going as far as to do this www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/03/14/mass-effect-3-petition-raises-40k-criticisms.aspx (That's a good way to make your bull**** worth something, at least).

But I wanted to ask you: Don't listen. It is not to listen because the story is yours, you are the creatores or w/e. Besides all crap they are asking for there is one thing I almost agree with them. We need to know how our actions throughout the series changed the galaxy, and how will it be done? Not patching the story, but with a sequel. And that's why you won't listen, because this game has everything in it to have a sequel where everything made by Shepard will be accounted for.

I know, the mass relays were destroyed. So what? There is nothing stopping BioWare from creating a game that takes place on a single system (or a couple of them, since you can travel through near systems using FTL travel.

I would go as far as to say that nothing stops BioWare from creating a game that will take place in multiple systems separately that in the end will be united by some sort of discovery or whatsoever.

Shepard's story is (almost) over. Face it. But Mass Effect can still live after Shepard's event. There will also be more to the story as DLCs will come and so far we don't actually know how Shepard's story will REALLY end.

So I am asking once again. Please, BioWare, do what you want to do with the game and don't listen to them. Because so far, Mass Effect has been one of the best franchises I've played these years.

<now you can throw the stones at me>



Why bother throwing anything? You're entitled to your opinion, but the level of intellectual rigor and logic in your argument (not to mention your grammar and spelling) makes it clear that your ideas are without merit or value.


I'm not american nor is english my first language. Does that make my opinion lower than yours?

Argumentum ad populum at its best

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xeNNN wrote...

MattFini wrote...

Christ, five pages and not a decent defense of the ending in sight.


its ok they will eventually they're just fighting each other philosophically at the moment with space magic:wizard:. lol


I can't decide what your subjective feelings on what ending will give you enjoyment, but rather than defense per se you are free to see what I liked about it in my signature link. Regardless of whether or not you agree  is quite irrelevant however as a persons enjoyment is subjective and individual.

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Why do the 2% even bother??? You're hopelessly outnumbered.

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Xusa wrote...

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They're not "patching" it. They're continuing the story after the indoctrination/hallucination or whatever you want to call it. They planned on this.


Do you have any proof regarding this?

Nope, only third-hand rumours.
"Someone who knows someone who got something about something."

And as for my brethren who say those who like the endings are a "disposable" minority, I say:
What.The.Hell?
People are free to like things as much as they are free to dislike them. We aren't in any position to say who's relevant or isn't, and if they have the endings they like *NOW* why deny them those endings?
We don't like them, we don't find enough closure in them and we don't find the smallest bit of sense or decent player action in any of the so-called decisions, and, although those who like the endings seem hellbent on making every possible action to deny us some sort of satisfaction for the money and time we invested, it is not our place to tell them what they should or should not like/have.
It only makes us into them.
People are free to like what they like, and if they already have something they like, they shouldn't be denied it. Same way we shouldn't be denied by them the OPTION to get the endings (plural) we would like to have.

Hold the Line, but be excellent to each other.

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Xusa wrote...

Doc089 wrote...

Xusa, my curiosity makes me ask, what did you think of ME1 and ME2? And what did you play the three as? Paragon/Renegade/Paragade?


Iliked the first one a little. It has some problems regarding the size of the citadel (I thought it was just too big. The citadel from ME3 is perfect) and the menus (which were confusing and... strange. Not to say the game explained little of the ME universe and u had to, or delve deep into the story to understand things or pass a long time into the codexes.

The second was huge. I loved it in many ways. Ok, the story isn't as deep as the other 2, but still ****ing good.

I played the 3 as... dunno, I had only a little more than a one bar as renegade the rest full paragon.


I'm glad you enjoyed the ending.

But didn't you find it a bit of a let down that once you enter the light your only "winning" options were renegade? I never thought of Anderson as a Renegade but they put him on that ending. To take the blue, or what has been associated with Paragon choices, you had to side with TIM.

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Steelgrave wrote...

Why do the 2% even bother??? You're hopelessly outnumbered.


Aw, man D':

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Steelgrave wrote...

Why do the 2% even bother??? You're hopelessly outnumbered.


Read.

Already answered this question.

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I'm not saying COMPLETELY CHANGE the ending: I'm saying just add more options for the people who want them. It's like the argument during the ME2 days for including gay relationships in ME3. A lot of people opposed it, but those who supported it said, "If you don't like those type of relationships, don't do them in game. But if you do, now the option is there." I'd always like more options, even if I don't intend on picking them.

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Ignore the guy in the opening. It's yours, sure.

But WE'RE yours too. Your customers. Pick which is more important. We've already discredited the whole 'it's art, you can't change it' argument anyway, so if you really don't want our money that much, well... that's your right, and you do what you want.

But I'm sure no one will argue it's perfectly fair to move our business elsewhere if we're not going to get satisfaction.