Do we deserve an apology?
#1
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:20
When Blizzard's Chris Metzen broke Warcraft lore in World of Warcraft he was very open about this and let fans know he would try his best to prevent this happening in the future.
While there was only one forum of complaints, Metzen still took it on himself to take life by the ballz and man up to his mistakes.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Metzen_on_lore
http://www.lorecraft...dar-retcon.html
Biowares blunder is countless forums and petitions, it's getting out of control.
Do you think the same manliness will come out of Bioware? Or will they keep telling us that their vision is perfect and it's us fans who need to adapt....
Because I think that is worse, just sitting in the dark looking over our shoulders while asking vague questions, it's not what men do. It certainly isn't what Shepard would do.
What do you guys think, should Bioware come clean or not?
#2
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:23
If I answered though, i'd so no. Not an apology. A new ending, or an expansion. ME3 isn't a lost cause like DA2, the rest of the game is fantastic. We just want the story to be cohesive.
#3
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:23
#4
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:24
I don't agree that the fans are owed an apology however.
If anything I believe it's the other way around as it stands right now. The child's play drive is a fantastic movement for those who felt strongly enough, but some of the vitriol displayed so far (I am sorry, not all of you have been civil), have been quite shameful to see. No less than what I believe to be a flawed conclusion not befitting the trilogy.
#5
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:24
#6
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:26
#7
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:26
StabGuy wrote...
Do you think it's about time the person who made the ME3 endings came forward and apologized to fans?
When Blizzard's Chris Metzen broke Warcraft lore in World of Warcraft he was very open about this and let fans know he would try his best to prevent this happening in the future.
While there was only one forum of complaints, Metzen still took it on himself to take life by the ballz and man up to his mistakes.
http://www.wowwiki.com/Metzen_on_lore
http://www.lorecraft...dar-retcon.html
Biowares blunder is countless forums and petitions, it's getting out of control.
Do you think the same manliness will come out of Bioware? Or will they keep telling us that their vision is perfect and it's us fans who need to adapt....
Because I think that is worse, just sitting in the dark looking over our shoulders while asking vague questions, it's not what men do. It certainly isn't what Shepard would do.
What do you guys think, should Bioware come clean or not?
Me and chris may not get along for what happened with Illidan and Kael... but i've let it go
Well Se did apologize for FFXIII and FFXIV so who knows maybe if the backlash is that bad
#8
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:26
#9
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:26
Will they get one? No, they won't.
This game was the poster child for "We've already delayed it once, we're not delaying it again. Finish it!"
#10
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:27
RocketManSR2 wrote...
No. /thread
#11
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:27
Words are wind, they don't want to say their sorry and I don't want to hear it. I just want to be satisfied with how my time and money is spent (not to say that ME3 is BAD by any stretch of the imagination).
#12
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:27
#13
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:29
DadeLeviathan wrote...
Was the ending bad? Yes. Do we deserve an apology from Bioware? No. That's like saying you deserve an apology from Wizards of the Coast for 4th edition DnD. Bioware wrote an ending that turned out to be very bad and is openly hated by a large portion of fans (I won't say majority, because no enough people have weight in to confirm whether we are in the majority or not). That's nothing to apologize over. Try and address the concerns of said fans, yes. But apologize? no.
I reckon we're in the majority, the difference is for example alot of my mates agree that the endings are rubbish but they're not the type of gamers/fans to spend time on forums or gaming sites like me and many others. The only gamers imo that could possibly have nothing to be upset with are people new to ME (and they're a minority)
Back on topic - No we don't deserve nor will we ever get an apology...though i'd feel alot better if they announced on twitter that they went wrong somewhere.
#14
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:31
I would accept an apology in the form of free DLC, fixing their ****-ups.
And yes, they are ****-ups. I don't give a damn about 'artistic vision'. That isn't art, it's something my old philosophy professor would return and offer a one time chance at a rewrite, purely out of kindness.
#15
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:32
You know what really is hilarious, despite the screaming of the masses the destroy ending at least does make sense, admittedly you have to give it some thought which you probably shouldn't have to do in the first place but there are logical explanations to ALL the 'plot holes' people are oh so upset about.
At this point people are just shouting for the heck of it, to be part of the group, natural human reaction and I guess I can't blame them it's just sad to see as I always believed geeks were above that.
Modifié par AdrynBliss, 15 mars 2012 - 05:36 .
#16
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:32
Do you think it's about time the person who made the ME3 endings came forward and apologized to fans?
No.
I don't think the writers set out to troll fans with the ending they wrote, so I don't think they should apologize for anything. They no doubt set out to write something they thought many fans would love, and it just didn't work out the way they hoped. I also think it would be a little ridiculous of fans to demand an apology.
That being said the endings were very disappointing and deserve most of the criticism they are getting. I hope Bioware is paying attention and creates DLC that presents a fourth option during the end that is more satisfying, but I don't hold any animosity towards Bioware or it's writers.
Modifié par Han Shot First, 15 mars 2012 - 05:34 .
#17
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:32
#18
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:33
I want my house on the homeworld.
#19
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:33
#20
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:34
Will we get one? No
Bioware is a company and we pay for their products. If we don't like their products then we shouldn't pay them. That is how it works. That being said, I like Blizzard's business model of "it is done when we say it is" because then you get games, albiet delayed, that are complete with a lot less flaws.
Bioware doesn't have the cash cow of games like WOW to bolster it while it makes a game over a period of 5 years so bear that in mind.
#21
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:35
#22
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:36
LCS73 wrote...
Do we deserve one? Yes
Will we get one? Unknown
Fixed.
#23
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:36
RocketManSR2 wrote...
No. /thread
#24
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:38
#25
Posté 15 mars 2012 - 05:38
Brownfinger wrote...
****, no. Lose the entitlement.
Lose the buzzwords.




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