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[redplague]

The OP comment is an insult to every cancer sufferer out there.  Comparing unhappiness about ME3's ending to having cancer?  Grow up!

[Apathy1989]

lol OP you need to step away. I mean I was depressed for the rest of the day after the ending... but now I'm just angry for bioware being so stupid.

Its either a really bad ending, or a really bad hallucination sequence which is a refusal to stop printing money. I mean the game ends at the foot of a reaper, the end of a war - there is no way to stretch an entire new game from this and I don't think any of us are willing to wait on such a weak thread.

[FoxShadowblade]

I felt the same way the day I beat the game, the next day I found the RetakeMassEffect movement. I focused the depression and hurt into the will that now drives my support for a new ending. I am unshakable in my belief that we will get a better ending. But if it's taking a toll on you, it's time for you to find something else to do. Take solace that we will still be here, fighting in your place. Go and be happy again.

This is the SSV Utah, holding the line.

[thatfilmgirl]

I'm pretty depressed so I'm doing another playthrough with a completely different character (my main shep is kind of my... testing shep and even then it wasn't MY shep (thanks import issues).

It's the lack of import patch that has me wondering. You'd think that would be something they could at least tell us about.

[AloraKast]

Jagatay wrote...

If you can emotionally attach yourself to a story (rather than a game) it is actually a normal thing to feel depressed or be affected by after such an ending.

So yes, i am attached to the story thus that ending upset me, thus i feel sad and angry, i feel lost and wtf. I can't say it is just a game because i do not care about the game but rather the story and how i fit myself into this story.

To everyone pointing out that "dude, it's just a game, get over it", etc. please see the above excellent point.

No matter whether it's a game, a movie, a TV series or a book... no matter the medium, it's the story and characters that we've become so intensely emotionally invested in over a period of 5 long years of beautiful, magnificent and powerful storytelling that matter. The characters caught our interest, engaged us and over the long, arduous and fantastic journey we have come to love... to care deeply about them and their plight. The rich and wondrous setting has awed us, but it's the personal connections we have formed with those very well written and thus very real characters that hold us tied firmly to the Mass Effect universe.

It's a testament to the masterful skill of the writers, hell, the entire Mass Effect team that brought the vision to life and took us on this epic journey, those strong bonds that hold us firmly tethered to the ME universe.

So to me, it's perfectly normal to feel strong emotions and be deeply affected by a less than stellar or even desirable ending to this stellar journey.

For now, I am still blissfully immersed in the ME3 experience, even though I am dreading getting to the end... both because I don't want for this amazing adventure to end as well as knowing a thing or two about how it ends... although I very much expect to be deeply depressed by actually having experienced the ending myself. And when I finally get to that point, I imagine I will be in a sore need of a hug.

But in the meantime... to the OP and everyone attempting to deal with less than pleasant effects of the ending...

*BIG BEAR HUGS* to you all

[SeanThen1]

So many possibilities exist to incorperate 90% of what Bioware did, hell, 99% and yet still provide alternative endings. The solution is to not invalidate any one ending by adding more. Simply give us the option to have the game end in different ways, such as defying the star child by continuing to fight.

The fanfic posted does a GREAT job of summing up an alternative: http://arkis.deviant...set=25#comments

Make the damned War Assets MEAN something. Collect enough and you beat the Reapers on earth, disrupt their communications and give the galaxy a fighting chance.

To address the OP directly, I agree with you. I obsessed over the game to ensure my chances at the ending were perfect. All that effort went to waste. Your readiness barely factors into the end result at all. I finished with 7.3k without even playing Infiltrator, let alone any upcoming DLC. Yet you can get everything unlocked with 4k? That's not good enough.

I repeat: It is not good enough, Bioware.

Modifié par SeanThen1, 15 mars 2012 - 02:42 .

[redplague]

AloraKast wrote...

Jagatay wrote...

If you can emotionally attach yourself to a story (rather than a game) it is actually a normal thing to feel depressed or be affected by after such an ending.

So yes, i am attached to the story thus that ending upset me, thus i feel sad and angry, i feel lost and wtf. I can't say it is just a game because i do not care about the game but rather the story and how i fit myself into this story.

To everyone pointing out that "dude, it's just a game, get over it", etc. please see the above excellent point.

No matter whether it's a game, a movie, a TV series or a book... no matter the medium, it's the story and characters that we've become so intensely emotionally invested in over a period of 5 long years of beautiful, magnificent and powerful storytelling that matter. The characters caught our interest, engaged us and over the long, arduous and fantastic journey we have come to love... to care deeply about them and their plight. The rich and wondrous setting has awed us, but it's the personal connections we have formed with those very well written and thus very real characters that hold us tied firmly to the Mass Effect universe.

It's a testament to the masterful skill of the writers, hell, the entire Mass Effect team that brought the vision to life and took us on this epic journey, those strong bonds that hold us firmly tethered to the ME universe.

So to me, it's perfectly normal to feel strong emotions and be deeply affected by a less than stellar or even desirable ending to this stellar journey.

For now, I am still blissfully immersed in the ME3 experience, even though I am dreading getting to the end... both because I don't want for this amazing adventure to end as well as knowing a thing or two about how it ends... although I very much expect to be deeply depressed by actually having experienced the ending myself. And when I finally get to that point, I imagine I will be in a sore need of a hug.

But in the meantime... to the OP and everyone attempting to deal with less than pleasant effects of the ending...

*BIG BEAR HUGS* to you all

Yes but there are degrees as to how much you are depressed.  Even using the word 'depressed' is misleading as depression can have different meanings in slang compared to the medical defenition.  But to compare how miserable a cancer sufferer must feel is ridiculous.  If your as miserable about the ending to a game as you are to something tragic in real life then you are either a child or somebody who needs a life fullstop.

[Militarized]

And again... I'm proven right about how stories are such an integral part of our culture/psyche.

No one gets this uppity about an ending to games where the story is not so integral or character driven or is more linear. It's usually just "oh, that sucks or that was cool/inspirational/whatever".

It's like someone ruined the ending of Odyessy and put a troll face on Homer.

[OSUfan12121]

I still have hope that bioware fixes the ending with DLC but until then I will hold the line.

[mupp3tz]

Lulz. I sympathize because that's how I felt last week. All weekend before ME3 release and the day of, I was a ball of happiness. So excited to play that I couldn't concentrate on ANYTHING. After Wednesday/Thursday, I still couldn't concentrate on anything... but, this time, in the worst way possible. I was annoyed, frustrated, and confused. It sounds so stupid looking back, but I really did lose my appetite, decided to skip class, and stayed up late on the forum, sleeping only for 5 hours.. remembering the ending, and not being able to go back to sleep. Basically, I felt like **** physically and mentally.

[inversevideo]

Well, for $80.00 U.S, I figured I owed it to myself to complete the game.

It's weird, I was even enjoying multi-player, and now it kinda feels like why bother?

Like the replay value has diminished for me.

I am trying with another Shepard, and will do my best to simply deny the existence of the bad ending and enjoy the rest of the journey. Though so far, it feels like trying to finish your lunch when you are full, or trying to swallow something tainted. No matter how good the memory of what was, the reality of what is kinda detracts quite a bit, you know?

Of course, the upside is that time I would otherwise spend on Mass Effect, I am spending with 'real people' instead, so that is a good thing from my perspective.

Modifié par inversevideo, 16 mars 2012 - 04:15 .

[Zokopops]

I just want to know if they see the ending as a choice between A,B and C. And why they said it wouldnt be like that......thats why Im hanging around.

[nomoredruggs]

I'm sorry, I felt really devastated aswell for the first couple of days, feeling like my Shep died a lonely, meaningles death and that such an end wasn't worthy of her....

But to quote Kor Phaeron from another thread

I don't for a moment think there are any other endings, this was a hallucination, etc. Bioware/EA is letting these speculations go on for two reasons. First, they are letting people vent. Secondly, they are weighing options.

Years ago, I worked for a PR damage control team and everything right now is going by the book. First, re-affirm and ignore (also known as doubling down), then try and define the detractors in the mainstream with things like "this is all a big mistunderstand", etc. while remaining civil in the hopes the detractors go rabid. Meanwhile go dark and use countermeasures through third part sources to prop up your position and brand the outcry as driven by hacks, haters or a minority trying to wear out the detractors on these outlets or "shock troops" while protecting the corporate core. Next, offer something distracting (notice SWTOR is free this upcoming weekend) known as the "faux olive branch"/ask the angry people to explain their concerns (without agreeing to commit to a compromise), buy more add time (definitely going on right now), and hope it dies down. If the pressure is still on, determine the economic viability of 1) ignoring the outcry and banking on the fickle nature of consumers to get over it or 2) determining if we can make money off of fixing it.

If it is any consolation, the decision whether or not there is a fix DLC, etc, won't be made by the writers so illusions to things they wanted to convey don't matter much atm (to wit: the leads comments yesterday). I suspect he's been called in and politely told by the PR guys to not do that again. This is now a corporate problem, not an artistic struggle with fans. Somewhere in the EA bunker, attorneys, PR guys, writers and brass are sharing numbers b/c in the end this will come down to hard currency.

[SimonM72]

Suck it up princesses! - hold the line!.

[Baine10]

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

Missed a seminar at Uni.
Losing sleep.
No will to eat.
Depressed.

Yeah...

I know its sad. But ME meant alot to me and I spent so much time into it. ME3 was perfect until the ending - though not gonna start on that here.

The only hope that remains is the indoctrination theory. However - how do you manage the wait?

It feels like the doctor has told me I may have cancer. But I wont know for sure before a month, and he tells me "ENJOY LIFE MEANWHILE!". Really? How?

One of these scenarios will be proven true in the next months:

1) Bioware pulls off the greatest trick in gaming history and redeem themselves with epic and much promised endings through DLC.

2) Bioware manages to make the worst ending in gaming history.

Either way they sure as hell will be remembered, but I cant take the wait anymore. Its affecting my real life in damaging ways I didnt thought was possible, telling myself "its just a game" isnt helping. So I'm out for now, will check back in a few months to find out the truth. 

I salute your mental strength if you can manage to stick around the forums for months not knowing.

Get over the game. Not in a offensive sense, but a mistake by others shouldn't ruin your personal life. 

I promise to PM you when it's all over. Now get off BSN, eat something, get to UNI and get some sleep.

[Esoretal]

Yeah, I get how you feel. I stayed up all night on the forums because I couldn't sleep after finishing the game, and that's the first time I've ever done that. Lost my appetite, want to cry sometimes, still getting on with things but still feeling like someone ran over my dog. It's not even like I'm doing it consciously, it just happens.

I mean, not to be melodramatic or anything, but when someone says "it's just a video game..." Emotions are a very real thing and Mass Effect's story was very good at eliciting them. So when the story takes a turn like that and you get railroaded out of that attachment, it really does hurt. It's totally valid to be upset.

Modifié par Esoretal, 16 mars 2012 - 04:23 .

[Lendorien]

Well, one thing's for certain, Bioware really did achieve that memorable, unforgetable response they wanted. I'm not sure abject despair, grief and depression was what they intended.

I'll admit that I haven't even finish ME3 yet because of this. What's the point? Instead, I'm hanging around here, wasting precious time in my life because I too am depressed about what Bioware did.

Maybe Bioware underestimated the emotional investment people had with their series. Certainly a lot of journalist who have been calling us entitled have.

Modifié par Lendorien, 16 mars 2012 - 04:23 .

[kunzite]

As I read the many reactions in this thread, I find the images and videos of fans of other things. Like...Elvis. Or the Beatles. "ME3 is just a game." Yeah, well, Elvis and the Beatles were just singers, too. Didnt stop people from going all kinds of crazy, did it?

[malkuth74]

Still around

[TheWerdna]

I think I was one of the lucky ones, in that I knew what was coming a week earlier. As such I went through a lot of the grieving. I cried on and off for a few days. For two weeks I could barely sleep, I woke up in the middle of the night after dreams about the endings. I could barely eat, having to force myself to eat something half the time. At school I coult barely pay attention, I lacked any desire to play any games. I got the game anways, since I atleast wanted the enjoy the rest of it, and even that was a struggle. At various points I broke down and cried at several points genrally those that felt happy and hopeful; knowing how the result would not be so.

Over time I went through the 5 stages of grief....well except the last stage; instead of acceptance I entered a state of resolve. I will not give up at this point, I will continue fighting this battle until we win or we cannot fight anymore. To do anything else would dishonor the characters of the series, the characters that diverse a proper sendoff and a proper end.

Untill there is not fight left in us, we shall Hold the line.

Modifié par TheWerdna, 16 mars 2012 - 04:30 .

[rvgifford]

Hey man, get away, then. Don't let it hit you that hard. Still, it won't be months. I'm only giving them another week before I am absolutely through with all EA/Bioware products. If, and I mean if, I buy them I will buy them used so no profit to them.

If it hit you that hard avoid their products and if you must buy them, used. I hope they fix this travesty, but we'll see.

[Midnight Eternal]

I found that watching "V for Vendetta" while imagining that I am V and all of Britain is the populace upset with these endings and Parliament is BioWare/EA brought me some amount of amusement.

[TheWerdna]

edit: opps double post

Modifié par TheWerdna, 16 mars 2012 - 04:27 .

[kjir]

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

Missed a seminar at Uni.
Losing sleep.
No will to eat.
Depressed.

Yeah...

I know its sad. But ME meant alot to me and I spent so much time into it. ME3 was perfect until the ending - though not gonna start on that here.

The only hope that remains is the indoctrination theory. However - how do you manage the wait?

It feels like the doctor has told me I may have cancer. But I wont know for sure before a month, and he tells me "ENJOY LIFE MEANWHILE!". Really? How?

One of these scenarios will be proven true in the next months:

1) Bioware pulls off the greatest trick in gaming history and redeem themselves with epic and much promised endings through DLC.

2) Bioware manages to make the worst ending in gaming history.

Either way they sure as hell will be remembered, but I cant take the wait anymore. Its affecting my real life in damaging ways I didnt thought was possible, telling myself "its just a game" isnt helping. So I'm out for now, will check back in a few months to find out the truth. 

I salute your mental strength if you can manage to stick around the forums for months not knowing.

Worth getting angry over? Yes. But not worth turning that anger inwards over. Find a gym with a punching bag and beat the daylights out of it if you're having trouble finding productive ways to outwardly express that anger. It. Must. Get. Out.

[joshko]

SomeoneStoleMyName wrote...

Missed a seminar at Uni.
Losing sleep.
No will to eat.
Depressed.

Yeah...

I know its sad. But ME meant alot to me and I spent so much time into it. ME3 was perfect until the ending - though not gonna start on that here.

The only hope that remains is the indoctrination theory. However - how do you manage the wait?

It feels like the doctor has told me I may have cancer. But I wont know for sure before a month, and he tells me "ENJOY LIFE MEANWHILE!". Really? How?

One of these scenarios will be proven true in the next months:

1) Bioware pulls off the greatest trick in gaming history and redeem themselves with epic and much promised endings through DLC.

2) Bioware manages to make the worst ending in gaming history.

Either way they sure as hell will be remembered, but I cant take the wait anymore. Its affecting my real life in damaging ways I didnt thought was possible, telling myself "its just a game" isnt helping. So I'm out for now, will check back in a few months to find out the truth. 

I salute your mental strength if you can manage to stick around the forums for months not knowing.

Just hop in the forums a few times a day to give your support, brows around a bit, share an opinion, and then pop out. That's all it really takes, any body who actually sits here most of the day looking to pounce is crazy.