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[The Angry One]

Behold as I write a better solution in 5 minutes.

Anderson: "Shepard, remember the conduit on Ilos? After you went there, we sent scientists to look it over and brought it to a facility in London for further study. The Council wasn't pleased let me tell you. But now the Reapers have found it and are bringing it out. If we can get to it and activate it we can get onto the Citadel!"

[statistx]

Didn't you watch Doctor Who? Almost every invasion starts in London XD

[Zhor2395]

The Angry One wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Alright maybe I'm blocking out so much that I entirely forgot but why did the Reapers put a transporter *anywhere* in the first place?

Probably for ease of harvesting. I bet there were more around the world.

That seems a stretch, why to the Citadel? They've obviously never used the Citadel in such a manner before, why start now?
Especially when it's in their interests to not have a convenient organic usable transporter to the one thing they don't want anybody anywhere near.

to be fair, this is the only recorded instance of them using the citadel for anything besides a mass relay.  For all we know, they dragged it around from system to system like a giant Uhaul of the dead

[The Angry One]

I'd love to see the Doctor's reaction to the Catalyst.

"Yes okay so I have to pick a fancy colour and do as I'm told or the cycle must continue because that's what you say but you see, I have this problem..."

*does something awesome and shuts the Catalyst down*

"I'm really bad at doing what I'm told."

[Erixxxx]

The Angry One wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Alright maybe I'm blocking out so much that I entirely forgot but why did the Reapers put a transporter *anywhere* in the first place?

Probably for ease of harvesting. I bet there were more around the world.

That seems a stretch, why to the Citadel? They've obviously never used the Citadel in such a manner before, why start now?
Especially when it's in their interests to not have a convenient organic usable transporter to the one thing they don't want anybody anywhere near.

Is it stated explicitly anywhere that the Citadel has never been used for harvesting people and creating new reapers anywhere? They have to build the damn things somewhere, and the Collector base didn't exist until the end of the previous cycle.

[The Angry One]

Erixxxx wrote...

Is it stated explicitly anywhere that the Citadel has never been used for harvesting people and creating new reapers anywhere? They have to build the damn things somewhere, and the Collector base didn't exist until the end of the previous cycle.

I don't know I think Vigil might've mentioned it. Or Javik.
Even if the Citadel was ultimately intended for that use..... now is not the time. Wait until Shepard and the fleet is beaten.

[Wikkr]

Erixxxx wrote...

Is it stated explicitly anywhere that the Citadel has never been used for harvesting people and creating new reapers anywhere? They have to build the damn things somewhere, and the Collector base didn't exist until the end of the previous cycle.

that we know of. It could have been there much longer just filled with prothean husks when the previous tennants became useless

[sorentoft]

Because the Reapers tried to land in Scandinavia but got kicked out, so they chose the next-best thing.

[zarnk567]

ZombieJohn84 wrote...

Because Anderson was born there.

Makes more sense than the endings

[Darth Malignus]

The Angry One wrote...

Harbinger of Hope wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Alright maybe I'm blocking out so much that I entirely forgot but why did the Reapers put a transporter *anywhere* in the first place?

Probably for ease of harvesting. I bet there were more around the world.

That seems a stretch, why to the Citadel? They've obviously never used the Citadel in such a manner before, why start now?
Especially when it's in their interests to not have a convenient organic usable transporter to the one thing they don't want anybody anywhere near.

I figure it's because the Citadel relay was disconnected. In earlier cycles perhaps the Reapers DID in fact use the Citadel as their base of operations for creating the new Reapers. We're never told much, but the Citadel would be a perfect relay hub for the galactic harvest. You'll need a base of operations for that kind of undertaking, and quite honestly, what other structures in the galaxy would be able to house a Reaper (or more) in the making? The Collector Base? Sure, but that thing is 50.000 years old max. The Reapers have been around for millions of years. Perhaps previously indoctrinated races did a Collector-thing as well, but to me that would seem somewhat pointless, seeing that the Reapers already have an available and easily defended superstructure. And, the Citadel relay was a relay. Maybe the Reapers had the ability to link it to the galactic relay network, even though it's primary use is a transport link to dark space, and thereby gain a little more mobility and tactical advantages in their harvest?

However, we do know that the Protheans devised a code that disabled the Keepers' ability to open the Citadel relay. Maybe the code given to Shepard by Vigil actually did a lot more than grant him control of the Citadel, perhaps it even disabled the Citadel relay itself completely? Sovereign certainly made a break for it, but perhaps his effort to circumvent the Keepers' inability to open the Citadel would have been futile, even if he had gained control of the Citadel. Who knows, right?

The Citadel definitely seems to be a little out of funk, and maybe because of that they simply chose the second-best option: Bringing the Citadel with them. The Citadel actually seems to be quite mobile, all things considered. One thing's for certain: The Citadel definitely seems to have lost it's ability to function as a relay, so my theory would be that Vigil's code to Shepard gave the Citadel one Hell of a Trojan that the Reapers haven't been able to get rid of.

Just a thought.

Modifié par Darth Malignus, 15 mars 2012 - 03:03 .

[alienman]

sorentoft wrote...

Because the Reapers tried to land in Scandinavia but got kicked out, so they chose the next-best thing.

By vikings and polar bears!

[The Angry One]

*Reapers attack Scandinavia*

Harbinger: We are the Harbinger of your..

Viking 1: FUSRODAH!!!

Viking 2: *shoots Harbinger in the knee*

Harbinger: OOOOWWW!!! Retreat! Retreat!

Yes I went there.

[Cody]

The Angry One wrote...

I'd love to see the Doctor's reaction to the Catalyst.

"Yes okay so I have to pick a fancy colour and do as I'm told or the cycle must continue because that's what you say but you see, I have this problem..."

*does something awesome and shuts the Catalyst down*

"I'm really bad at doing what I'm told."

He would never even start that conversation without first offering the kid a jelly baby.

[deathscythe517]

It's stated in the Codex that the Reapers have their own fleet of processors to make Destroyers and other Reaper Dreadnoughts. They're essentially the, arguably, weakest thing in the Reaper armada.

It's funny that you never actually see the damn things but...

[MattFini]

So the bottom line is that nobody knows why London was important? Great. Another hole.

[Amagoi]

I bet there's a traitor Reaper that really wants to die, so he set up a very bright Deus Ex Machina that only lacked a giant neon sign that said "Citadel Here!"

[TurambarEA]

"There's something big going down in London" ... good catch OP. Throw that on the list.

[Catroi]

because the end mission makes no sence! They should have used the conduit on Ilos anyway! why the **** would you go get yourself smashed by the reaper armada when you've got a ****ing opened back door since the first game!

[Khar-Goth]

zarnk567 wrote...

ZombieJohn84 wrote...

Because Anderson was born there.

Makes more sense than the endings

Given the lack of any other explanation as to why they started converging on London well before TIM knew about the Catalyst and could tell the Reapers what was going on, that makes as much sense as anything else.

Anderson's leading the ground-war for Earth, so lets ****** him off by stomping on his home town!

[Jack_Forest]

As if a Western company is going to use Moscow, Beijing or Tehran.

[Khar-Goth]

Jack_Forest wrote...

As if a Western company is going to use Moscow, Beijing or Tehran.

Any of those would have made a bit more sense...

I mean, if you are going to build a giant teleporter to beam the populace to the Citadel for processing you'd think their'd be better places to put it then on an island which contains only a relatively small proportion of the worlds population.

Wouldn't it have made a helluva lot more sense to put it on any one of the big continental land masses if your goal was to indoctrinate people to convince them to walk into it on their own rather then on an island?

Either that or they decided that the Reaper they were going to make out of humanity needed really awesome footballer skills so England and the English Premier League it had to be...

[jameshawking]

London is/was a major metropolitan area, one of the capitols of the world, and it was located on a tiny island that was easily defensible once conquered, as opposed to Beijing or Washington or France, which are parts of the "mainland".

So, strategically, only London or Tokyo, really, would be advisable due to ease of defense and population concentration. They picked London because, well, its white and western.

[havoc373]

Brakensiek wrote...

Yes, I really don't understand why the Reapers chosen London or even how Adernson was so sure that a final assault on a conduit that leads no telling where was the best option. Would have been so much simpler if the Normandy just used the stealth system to fly through that big gaping hole in the rear of the Citadel.

what gaping hole in the citadel? it closes on both ends. you even see this in one of the cutscenes

[Darth Malignus]

They had to start somewhere. Perhaps London is of a strategic importance in ME3 that we're just not told about, and therefore important to gain a foothold in. Perhaps the concentration of people (food for the Reaper effort) is denser in that area than other parts of the globe. I didn't exactly regard it as a plothole.

And who's to say they wouldn't move on, after they were done there?

[xEden]

The Angry One wrote...

xEden wrote...

It's stated in the game that the Reapers used the beam to transport humans both alive and dead to the Citadel. Why, should be pretty obvious.

It's not obvious to me.
The entire reason they brought the Citadel to Earth was to surround it with their main force and keep people away.
Why in blazes would you do that then provide a back door?

One can surmise they use the Citadel to harvest humans. We only got to see a couple hundered feet of the station when we took the beam. Regardless, I'm a believer in the halucination theory. With that said, like many other aspects of the ending one can't be entirely sure what was real and what wasn't. The beam may not even lead to a back door, and we just thought it did. I could have just lead to being processed.

Modifié par xEden, 15 mars 2012 - 03:25 .