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[Kidd]

Godwhacker wrote...

 The bit with the Illusive man was great. I was completely stoked, thinking all the people whining about the ending were being idiots.

And then... 

Ohhh yes, this was so me as I was playing. "What... what were all those complaints about? How is this not amazing? I swear BSN are just whiners as usua- who's the kid? Wait. No. NOOOOO" =D

[PrinceLionheart]

Avissel wrote...

I enjoyed it, brought back memories of talking down Saren.

Agreed. I actually loved that TIM's downfall was a homage to Saren's in the first game.

[PrinceLionheart]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Godwhacker wrote...

 The bit with the Illusive man was great. I was completely stoked, thinking all the people whining about the ending were being idiots.

And then... 

Ohhh yes, this was so me as I was playing. "What... what were all those complaints about? How is this not amazing? I swear BSN are just whiners as usua- who's the kid? Wait. No. NOOOOO" =D

The problem is all the Cerberus Apologists on this site got their headcanons blown to hell. 

Lucas Wolfen wrote...

I thought it was a bit too short and I was disappointed that there was no option to side with TIM.

 

Siding with him would've gotten you Indoctrinated. 

Modifié par PrinceLionheart, 15 mars 2012 - 07:49 .

[MasterKiller64]

I personally would have prefered killing TIM at his base in the room where he has been mocking me for the last 2 games. After Thessia I predicted I would kill TIM with Kai Leng's sword. Too bad.

[liggy002]

It depends, is the Indocrination Theory true? If yes, then I loved it. If not, then it was garbage.

[kingonthewall]

Wait are those dark spots on the screen during cut scenes part of the indoc theory?

[Tony208]

It was great all around.

[liggy002]

Yeah, they are supposed to represent the Reapers increasing the pressure on Shepard's mind during the indoctrination process. They resemble the "oily shadows" that the Rachni Queen speaks of.

[Canned Bullets]

I liked it. I like how Sheen was visibly delusional due to his years of indoctrination.

[mghjr6]

It was a great scene. The actor's all did great, especially Martin Sheen. It's a shame the Indoctrination Theory seems to have been brushed aside, since recycling the suicide theme from Saren feels lame without it.

[thesnake777]

Canned Bullets wrote...

I liked it. I like how Sheen was visibly delusional due to his years of indoctrination.

No. He was not indoctrinated for years. That happened between the cerberus base mission and the earth mission.
Reapers do not send forces to attack indoctrinated allies.

But Yes TIM's performance was fantastic
That final line was superb.

[guybrush threepwad]

Didn't like it. Didn't get how he could control Shepard or Anderson, that ability didn't necessarily flow from the Horizon research. Shepard isn't a husk. Nor did I know why I couldn't pick the paragon or renegade persuasion options.

[p__q]

I could nit pick about the pacing but honestly the scene worked, it was a fitting ending for the illusive man and was actually in line with the story up till that point.

[xsdob]

Khar-Goth wrote...

stevesyanks17hotmail.com wrote...

Subject M wrote...

I liked it a lot. Superb performance from Sheen.
The only thing left to explain is how he ended up there.

He was in the Citadel after warning the Reapers of your plans, how do you ALL forget this.

But how did he get behind you? You just walked up that path, it came from a hallway that had nothing in it but dead bodies and a Keeper and the portal from London. Suddenly seconds after you walked through there TIM comes up from behind you through the door you had just walked through?

The scene was great, but it would have made a helluva a lot more sense if you'd gotten there to find TIM at the console trying to access the Reaper controls and Anderson already struggling against his voodoo-brain-mojo. Which also would have explained why Anderson stopped replying to you over the radio a few moments before.

He could have been hiding outside the hallway, the room iscirculr and wider than the entrance to it.

[kingonthewall]

liggy002 wrote...

Yeah, they are supposed to represent the Reapers increasing the pressure on Shepard's mind during the indoctrination process. They resemble the "oily shadows" that the Rachni Queen speaks of.

Oh right on first time I saw them I thought my tv was going out so I spent 40 mintues trying to fix it. >< 

[SimKoning]

I was fine until they squeezed in god boy to explain my choice of three colors....

[FreshRevenge]

well my quess is that the illusive man was all ready there before he alerted the reapers. When you were at the Cerberus base, the illusive man was all ready gone. I am thinking once he failed on his attempt to control the reapers he alerted the reapers. Or the catalyst child alerted the reapers of his failed attempt and move over to the where all the reapers were for protection.

Now when you meet the Illusive man he is kinda of toast or burnt in trying to hold the handles. Which is why I think he failed because he didn't have the crucible attached to it! The crucible acted as a energy dispersal!

[liggy002]

What I meant to say is I really did love that scene. The voice acting was all around superb but the plot holes were enormous. I made another thread questioning how TIM could control Shepard and Anderson. It's not possible because the Reapers themselves would have figured out how to do that in the thousands of years they existed. And the Illusive man or his scientists just happened to figure that out in a 3 years while the Reapers are supposedly more intelligent than humans? The indoc theory just lends more credence to the fact that the Reapers are more intelligent than humans.

[troyk2027]

I liked the TIM scene, to me, it all falls apart when shepard is lifted up on the elevator.

[AdmiralJacket]

I really liked that part. It was the shining moment of the ending.

[Warrior Craess]

I actually liked it. Would have preferred to put a bullet in his head sooner, but it was fine the way it was..

[scolack]

i personally thought that was THE end of the gameplay, as in you controlling shepard and choosing what he says. i thought after he sat next to anderson and anderson passed, the crucible would fire, reapers would die or be weak, ships would tear through reapers, show crucible or war assests beating reapers, then happy ending scenes/epilogue.....but then suddenly hackett chimes in SHEPARD, IT'S NOT FIRING, IT'S GOTTA BE SOME GOD-CHILD THING THAT FIRES IT

[Kingofdragoons]

Nope, that scene was great! I loved every last second of it and was prepared for my Shepard to die moments later. Of course this was all shattered when Hacket opened his mouth and told me that it wasnt working and then Star Child... it was a sad day to be a Shepard.

[Peer of the Empire]

His last lines were poignant.


Even though it was just a hallucination

[effortname]

I like that they chose an intellectual confrontation over a boss fight for that particular villain, but I don't like that Illusive Man goes to such lengths elaborating his points to Shepard vs just killing everyone and running to the console. That's assuming the ending literally though.