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#251
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You guys did a fantastic job at that game, but most of us would love to see the non-indoctrinated ending, so yeah I'm expecting further dlc regarding that part of the game.

You did such an awesome job regarding the main story line, felt really good to take down a reaper via orbital strike ;D. Also the love story regarding ashley was excellent, brought up so much emotion, thanks for that epic drama.
I know most people complain about those WTF moments at the end (i.e. normandy flying away from the battle) but I think that was all part of the indoctrination - great job how people discussing this, http://social.biowar...dex/9727423/537 - over 500 pages lol!

Too bad that there wont be a fourth part invading the reaper homeworld á la quake 4 ;D

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Other games have had their ending patched with DLC before. I think this one deserves it. The games were fantastic. I do think the endings were alright. But they felt so....detached. Like they weren't the right endings to that story. I realize that the amount of work it would have taken to create a whole bunch of varying endings to the game would be astronomical. But that's what you've done for the last 2 games. I loved both of their endings, this game didn't match. It was fantastic but after the first 2 endings I think the third game really got the short end of the stick. Please DLC it or something bioware? I would gladly pay for the opportunity to play a more fitting conclusion.

#253
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Appreciate the word Chris. Basically, my feeling is that the endings didnt live up to the mass effect series. The plot holes for one thing were glaring including the issue with the Normandy and the crew being on board, the destruction of the relays would, accorinding to arrival, destroy the systems at worst and at best, strand everyone in a Sol and for me personally, showing liara in the black and white montage was just weird. I never used her in my party. Miranda was my love interest in 2 & 3 so that would make more sense.

I don't mind leaving things up for debate and interpretation (I loved LOST) but based on the facts on hand, the whole galaxy is messed up and we have no clue what happened to OUR crew.  Well, we know some or all got on he Normandy and crash land but it was just so...weird...that it didn't feel like my crew.


On a side note, in general i loved the game. Some of the sacrifices meant so much and made perfect sense. I do think that the love interests from ME2 should have been available as crew mates but that is a small issue. I just wanted more Miranda and not such a "weak" romance scene :)

Basically, you made to good of a game and universe to let it go out with out some sense of closure.  I expected my Shepard to die.  But to not see the results of finally beating back the reapers was a huge disappointment.

Plus, not getting to hear harbinger made me sad.

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I think the game, before the last 10 minutes, is one of the best games I've ever played, the story is great, the conflicts, the characters, the choices, the dialogues, the revamped combat. I loved every single bit of it, which only made the ending even harder to endure.

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Everything until the end.

The game is awesome but I can just fell/see the quality drop in the ending - it's a huge fall.

Best part? Kai Leng renegade options. I wanted to kill taht guy more than the reapers - just after reading the books, after watching Thane die (I'm happy he died in combat making a change not slowly over the next month or so). It was "THIS IS SPARTA" - would have been better if you chopped his head off and headless body fell to your feat, you pick up the head and yell savagely (as in the viking movies). I go paragon all the time, but I'll be damned if I don't pick this option every time - EPIC!

Having said that, the endings - for the love of all that's dear to you, please do something about them. It's not Shepard in them - it's some freaking dream just like when you chase the boy. I can't watch this end like a below average game, ME is worth much more than that!

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There were so many fantastic moments, I certainly want to congratulate the developers on a beautifully crafted experience, despite the controversy about the ending.
The triumphs:
Curing the genophage (and agonizing over the decision in the shuttle before getting to the shroud.)
Reconciling the quarians and geth.
The low points which were emotionally powerful:
Thane and Mordin's deaths.
The fall of Thessia.

And more, too many to name them all really.

#257
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not related but... Mordin <3

also Space Hampster <3

and... You know ME3 <3

TTEH

#258
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Catroi wrote...

ok I'm puting my feed back here too:
No they didn't
I'm sorry guys, the game is good but not awesome, there are so many weakness...
It's not an RPG anymore it's a TPS and I know for sure that when I play a Mass Effect game I want to play an RPG not a shooter, if I wanted a shooter I would have played, hum I don't know? Gears of War for example...
Let me tell you all the things I'm disapointed with:
- Less dialogues with nearly no choices and Shepard answering automaticaly
- Less squadmates with NO "deeper involvment", a lot of the time it's just autodialogue, even the "calibrations" were more interactive. Plus we don't get any loyalty missions, even in ME1 each of our squadmates gave us something to do.
- Only one hub, the citadelle, wich is just a small corridor. ME2's citadelle had disapointed me but this is worst! Oh and btw, why do they always change everything? Like the human ambassy?
- No appearance of a lot of secondary characters
- Cameo appearances of old ME2 squadmates: I'm really sad for those who romanced Jacob or Jack...
- The whole endmission is bullcrap: The suicide mission felt way more epic with you choosing what role your squadmates will be playing, etc... Oh and also no appearance of EMS, the rachni are the worst because it felt like such a huge decision and what did we get? Yay 100 EMS and that's all! just a number in a menu!
- Very few side missions and all of them consist of shooting. I don't mind having most of them being like that but ALL of them? Hell no! I remember this mission in ME1 where biotics had taken a politician hostage: that was awsome negociating his liberation and all!

So no the game is not Perfect it's actually far from it but I agree on one thing: without the ending fixed they can fix all the aformentioned (I think that's what you say in english...) problems it'll still be crappy because of the ending.
But oh well they wanted it to go mainstream just for the cash-grab I can't blame them but I guess I'm one of the few who prefered ME1 to ME2 because it was getting less and less an RPG and more and more an action game =(



100% THIS

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Chris Priestly wrote...

We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening. Active discussions about the ending are more than welcome here, and the team will be reviewing it for feedback and responding when we can. Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game. In the meantime, we’d like to ask that you keep the non-spoiler areas of our forums and our social media channels spoiler free.
 
We understand there is a lot of debate on the Mass Effect 3 ending and we will be more than happy to engage in healthy discussions once more people get to experience the game. We are listening to all of your feedback.

In the meantime, let's give appreciation to Commander Shepard. Whether you loved the ME3 ending or didn't or you just have a lot of questions, he/she has given many of us some of the best adventures we have had while playing games. What was your favorite moment? :)




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You all don't deserve to know what I liked.  Not yet.

http://www.gamefront...fans-are-right/

Keep reading this until you can give us a proper response beyond "we are listening".  The way you spam it just comes out as robotic and soulless. 

#260
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I absolutely loved EVERYTHING about the game until the last 10-15 minutes.

I cannot understand how so little time ruined EVERYTHING i've accomplished, My ''perfect'' playthrough, over 100 hours, experimenting and finding the best solutions to everything that came up, ended with some Star-god-child saying that ive got to pick ending A, B, or C?, and the fact that i cant even argue, wtf?

I promised Liara that i would always come back. I did.
I got the scene where Shep takes a breath, giving me some hope. Some, at the very least.

But the fact that the journey before these 15 minutes was absolutely amazing, atleast it gives me some comfort, despite it was all a waste in the end.

It felt real, you were surounded by people you kind of knew, Pixels .. that felt real.
The combat was as awesome as ME2.
There were alot of humurous moments that i still remember :D
it really felt that this ''Aginst impossible odds'' theme was real, since everywhere you went , death was knocking on every door. The game shaped around your descisions(atleast until the last 15 min) and was an inspiration to all RPGs.
I love this game(98% of it...) , i really do.
The question is whenever i will be able to play it again despite knowing that everything i accomplish dosent matter for **** in the end anyhow.
7.000 war assets and every descision to improve the odds of victory, i thought that i deserved the lil' blue children :(

#261
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The Mass effect saga has given me my best gaming experience ever and I believe that Mass effect 3 was the best of them (all three games have stuff that they made better but overall ME3 was my favorite)

Choose a specific part of the game is hard but Mordins ending did bring a tear to my eye...(Im glad nobody was around when I played that part)

Wierd thing is that I even enjoy the pvp and that is not something common


and just like a proper moron I will never accept the ending but thats another topic.....

#262
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DentedHalo wrote...

I’m glad to see your comments and want to very clearly state just how much I loved, not only ME3, but the whole series... ME3 is all but the perfect game... that’s why the ending feels so distressing...
I don’t hate Bioware or wish ill on anyone, and I suspect that even those who say they do at present are just dealing with the same emotions that I am in their own way. The message I want Bioware to see is that these endings are so far in opposition of the whole point of that game that it feels like a failure... that’s a tough thing to accept after hundreds of hours of emotional and invested gameplay...
I’m sure you’ve read the theories about the endings and, as a desperate fan I want them to be true... they may be, but they most likely are not... read them again... read the evidence provided... look at the straws being gathered by desperate fans... please... please... even if it was never your intention, don’t let it end this way... please...


I totally agree!

#263
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Game was fantastic, just the ending wasn't satisfying

And if the indoctrination theory holds true i believe the ending will be great however the delivery is poor :(

#264
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I loved the game, but the missing key story content in the ending that results in teleporting squadmates effect and Normandy doing things that make no sense hurts this great game. The developement reasons why the content is missing are most likely different, but the end result is the same as in KOTOR 2. Disconnected ending that leaves more questions than answers. I'm sure everyone at Bioware played KOTOR 2 and most probably know Obsidian devs very well, so I'm sure you realize how much the missing content at critical points in the ending hurt that game. Why repeat that in Mass Effect 3? Please address/fix it. KOTOR 2 never got rid of its "endings" burden completly and while it becomes more and more appreciated as the years pass, for many people it will forever be remembered as the game with "crap ending" and it is something that always get brought up by someone when KOTOR 2 is discussed. I don't want this to happen with ME3, there's too much good in this game to get overshadowed by incomplete ending.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 15 mars 2012 - 03:38 .


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I loved the game until the ending, but the following moments really stood out for me:

"Emergency Induction... Straw"
Mordin's Death
"That was for Thane, you son of a ****!"
Garrus and Joker trading jokes on the bridge of the Normandy
Grunt returning bloodied from the Rachni tunnels

Really, the game was one crowning moment of awesome after another... which is what made the end so jarring.

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Music - I was a bit sceptical at first because of the emphasis on piano. I was not sure if it would fit into ME music theme. But it worked out great, it is very moving.
The scenes I loved:
Mordins sacrifice, I almost cried..
The final battle, perfectly executed, I just wish it was bit longer. Or I actually hoped that there would be more after I get to the citadel...
I very much liked the "past jokes" - Shepard cant dance, Garrus and his calibrations etc.
I could go on like that but the more I think about it I realize there actually werent any scenes I hated, even though I didnt like some of them so much. That was up until the ending of course.
Overall it was a great experience and the first game from Bioware I didnt start playing again imidietaly after finishing it. And I probably wont any time soon.

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Balmung31 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening. Active discussions about the ending are more than welcome here, and the team will be reviewing it for feedback and responding when we can. Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game. In the meantime, we’d like to ask that you keep the non-spoiler areas of our forums and our social media channels spoiler free.
 
We understand there is a lot of debate on the Mass Effect 3 ending and we will be more than happy to engage in healthy discussions once more people get to experience the game. We are listening to all of your feedback.

In the meantime, let's give appreciation to Commander Shepard. Whether you loved the ME3 ending or didn't or you just have a lot of questions, he/she has given many of us some of the best adventures we have had while playing games. What was your favorite moment? :)




:devil:


When I see Bioware give appreciation to Shepard by having an optional ending where he lives and can be reunited with his crew and LI, maybe I'll tell you. 


Well said!

In the meantime at least we know we have had an impact.  Now is not the time to quit,we got their attencion so continue to hold the line people.

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Fjordgnu wrote...
My favorite moment? Well, that one's easy. It's the bit from when the game started until Harbinger's hallucination ray hit me.

This.

As for a more specific one: The charge at the hammers on Tuchanka was awesome.
Another great moment, emotionally, was the farewell gift of Liara, when she laid her head on Shepards shoulder. So much peace and sadness in this scene...espiecially if the ending turns out to be real (god, I hope not... :/)

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Curing the genophage was my favourite. Too bad the one Krogan who could unite them is stuck on Earth. Not that it matters, they can't go anywhere off Tuchanka either.

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I was fully satisfied by 99.99 percent of the game. The finale, everything after rushing Harbinger to get to the transport beam only to get blasted by his thannix cannon, left many questions and little fulfilment. I'm not filled with rage, but I am filled with questions, and that makes for a bad "definitive ending".

Joker and the Normandy escaping through a rapidly decaying relay conduit made absolutley no sense. You need to fill in some blanks there for any legitimate musings as to why it happened. Joker was supposed to come get me, not flee to Charon at the first sign of victory, this alone tells me something is not quite right.

Other than the endings, you deserve heaps of prasie for what was pretty much better than I expected.  There are other things that could have been better: ME2 romances were not satisfyingly closed or dealt with in all cases, and import bugs were annoying.  You also need to fix the bug that resets my Custom Shep to Default Shep.

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Game is epic!.... until the 10 last minutes. Utterly epic fail end!

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 To Quote a a Few issues with the endings


[*]Squadmates dissapear after charging to the beam, how did my squad end up on the Normandy in the first place? Joker is a good pilot, no doubt, but we’re expected to believe he just maneuvered his way through massive Reaper forces, extract a few, and then mosey his way on out?

[*]Your weapon has unlimited ammo for no reason[*]Anderson (Anderson managed to make his way to the Citadel/Catalyst’s control room even though there is seemingly only one way in or out of it – the path that Shepard walked? ) and TIM magically appear on the Citadel

[*]TIM can simply control Shepard and Anderson (Indoctrination usually takes a lot more time)

[*]Shepard is able to breath right out in space, a place were organics are never expected to be

[*]The Reaper's reasoning is flawed. Organics and synthetics fight united against the Reapers, the only real danger out in the galaxy. It's close-minded to assume that organics and synthetics could wipe out each other completely and will always continue to do this. 

[*]The catalyst could have opened the Citadel in ME1, making Sovereign and the game as a whole pointless

[*]Shepard never had the opportunity to simply resist, do nothing, and rescue the Mass Relays

[*]The Mass Relay overcharge does not destroy everything, unlike we have seen in Arrival DLC

[*]Normandy has no reason to flee from battle

[*]Normandy lands on a habitable planet after a FTL-jump to nowhere... How are the chances there?

Shepard possibly wakes up in rubble. How would he have got from Citadel to Earth... alive?

Think thats most of them, i'll add more as i see em


Good things, Probally playing the whole series (not the last 30mins) , Liara on ALL my saves my LI but without hope in the ending my other saves wont be played. I can't put myself and the charaters through it all again. Thats what you made us loose with the endings, and HOPE is why we all keep going in RL and games. Hope for a better future is why each of us get up in the morning.

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I appreciate that you are asking for input from the community.

I'll join the chorus that think the game was breath-taking until the final few minutes where I was torn from the narrative.

Particular moments that touched me:

Mordin sacrificing himself for the Genophage cure. Watching the sequence I was holding back tears and whispering "no, no, no, no." When it became clear that the end had arrived for Mordin I could not help but finish his song before the tears flowed freely. It was an incredibly powerful moment -- and while sad it felt necessary for the story.

Grunt's sacrifice for the Rachni queen. My eyes were once again. I thought that I had ordered a friend to their death. It was another scenario where it felt necessary and proper. Then Grunt staggers from the mouth of the cave -- battered and alive. Tears of pure joy.

The "bromance" with Garrus on the Citadel. It reminded me of the friends that I left behind when I moved back north of the Mason-Dixon.

I loved many other things about the game as well. Tali on Rannoch, Liara's time capsule, the final farewells before the battle of earth. They were all powerful.

#274
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We're waiting for more people to finish the game... I bloody called it!!! Using DLC as a plot device, its devious, evil, and just a little bit awesome. however SHIPPING AN INCOMPLETE GAME IS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.

favorite moment... ME3 has them all.

my favorite would have to be when EDI said she was alive, which made it really hard to pick the red ending... but I still did, so I'm good to go WHEN THE TRUE ENDING COMES.

Next is Liara, man she is rocking it in this game. I declare her my Waifu

Quarians and the Geth, hell yeah

Garrus, all the way

Punching Han'grel in the stomach

Waking up next to Aria

"Emergency Induction Port"

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You guys should rename the game to

Troll Effects 3