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On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening.


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Vlta wrote...

zegota wrote...

Ugh. Reading over this thread more, I'm seriously disturbed. People are treating the ending to a story as if it's a software bug that needs to patched. There goes the whole "video games are art" thing.


I really don't get this. Video games are not art. They are a story, like any book or movie. This particular story is almost completly controled by you the player. All the choices you get to make in the three games helps you shape your shepard, and Bioware threw that all away in the last 5min of the last game. Even if it was art, which it isn't, bad art is still bad art no matter how you look at it and at least with a video game you can correct such mistakes.

Video games can indeed be art. I have no problem with that.

But saying something is 'art' should not exclude it from quality, no matter how many times historically this has been cast aside. (usually to the effect of the fad only lasting briefly.)

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Omnike wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Omnike wrote...


EternalAmbiguity wrote...



It doesn't matter if it matters. You still had a good time. You still enjoyed yourself.

You need to take a closer look. You can't see the trees for the forest, if you will.

The ending is not all that matters.

Ever been in love before? had a first kiss? Even though you're probably not still with that person, do you remember that moment, those times with fondness? It's that idea.


That's not at all the same thing. Let's say you worked your ass off to get that kiss. Flowers, dates, the whole nine yards. It all costs money out of your pocket. Now let's say after all that hard work she finally wants to kiss you. And you're excited. Then you find out she doesn't have a tongue or teeth and it was the most unstasfying kiss ever and then she proceded to balletically kick you in the nads before running away giggling about how artistic she was... All that hard work didn't pay off.


Eternal (imho) is right the problem is some of you are so heavily influenced by your hurt feelings and lack of self control over your emotions (right now currently) about the very last element of hundreds of hours content and enjoyment that you believe everything that has come before was worthless and you would be incorrect, everything up until this point you had fun, you enjoyed you was happy and you cannot erase that no matter how over the top reactive you feel right now. He is right in that for two titles you and/or others did very much enjoy Shepard and even most of the game bar right at the end (I assume is what your bitter about). 

Though personally I did not have hurt feelings or have an urge to hate or rage over it because the game did what all games purpose is to do for me which is provide entertainment which at the most basic levels upwards is what gaming actually is a form of as an industry. I am not a noobie, or newcomer and have been here longer than a lot of people, played most of Biowares titles from start to finish over the years, I am not diluded or irrational, neither am I unable to understand why some people are unhappy. But even I can see some of you are just too consumed by anger to be completley rational over your reactions. 


Not everyone plays games for the sole sake of entertainment. If I wanted to be merely entertained, I'd watch terrible Sci-Fi original movies. Some of us got attached to Mass Effect for it's compelling story in a universe completely shaped by our choice as a player. It's compelling until you find out that the end will be the same no matter what you chose. We got robbed. If you were happy with the ending, that's fine. The more die hard fans are understandably upset.


What do you think entertainment means? Switching to the word compelling does not divert the principle. When something is compelling to you it is because it is entertaining you on some level. As I said I know why a lot of people are upset, I know they are upset but a lot of people are so upset that they do not realise the amount of their reactions is not yet at a level to become rational about how it impacts the previous few titles.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Vlta wrote...

If the story has a bad ending it ruins the whole thing. There were many good things in ME3 but knowing that no matter what you're always going to get those same three crap endings ruins not only the third game but the other two as well. Does this destroy my life. No. (dunno but some others) But it sure as hell ruins this series and any faith I had in this company.


As I said earlier...

You're going to die one day. None of what you've done will matter. Does that make all of this in-between so much dust in your hands, worthless and empty? or do you find enjoyment in the smaller picture?


You got upset about someone saying they "felt gutted", and that it was astronomically different. I think your death and getting attached to a video game are astronomically different. 

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Captiosus77 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...
Eternal (imho) is right the problem is some of you are so heavily
influenced by your hurt feelings and lack of self control over your
emotions (right now currently) about the very last element of hundreds
of hours content and enjoyment that you believe everything that has come
before was worthless and you would be incorrect, everything up until
this point you had fun, you enjoyed you was happy and you cannot erase
that no matter how over the top reactive you feel right now.


Or maybe, just maybe, we understand how story telling is supposed to happen and you don't discard 100+ hours of story and an extended canonical universe for a 10 minute "polarizing" ending.

On the grounds of logic alone, I cannot support these endings. Because there's no logic to them. Nothing in the entire Mass Effect universe that even remotely sets them up as proper without having to come up with some third party theory (see: indoc theory).

So, sure, you're right. The game will be remembered. And in fifteen years, I'll fondly recall events such as curing the genophage, or the suicide mission just as, today, I fondly remember Gold Saucer, chocobo racing, and Temple of the Ancients from Final Fantasy 7. And just like FF7, it will have the caveat of: "But the ending sucked and didn't finish the story."

Also, the logic part of this post I agree with.

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ME3 is full of great moments. The critical moments with your crew, the great findings on exploration, even if it´s pretty linear, the tremendous combats, Garrus spot on Citadel, Tali´s ending (in my game), the scenarios, there are many things. There is sadness, and even the ocassional joy on a very dark time. This is a living world and we live on it.

Maybe that´s the reason why the endings feel so dead.

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Omnike wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Omnike wrote...


EternalAmbiguity wrote...



It doesn't matter if it matters. You still had a good time. You still enjoyed yourself.

You need to take a closer look. You can't see the trees for the forest, if you will.

The ending is not all that matters.

Ever been in love before? had a first kiss? Even though you're probably not still with that person, do you remember that moment, those times with fondness? It's that idea.


That's not at all the same thing. Let's say you worked your ass off to get that kiss. Flowers, dates, the whole nine yards. It all costs money out of your pocket. Now let's say after all that hard work she finally wants to kiss you. And you're excited. Then you find out she doesn't have a tongue or teeth and it was the most unstasfying kiss ever and then she proceded to balletically kick you in the nads before running away giggling about how artistic she was... All that hard work didn't pay off.


Eternal (imho) is right the problem is some of you are so heavily influenced by your hurt feelings and lack of self control over your emotions (right now currently) about the very last element of hundreds of hours content and enjoyment that you believe everything that has come before was worthless and you would be incorrect, everything up until this point you had fun, you enjoyed you was happy and you cannot erase that no matter how over the top reactive you feel right now. He is right in that for two titles you and/or others did very much enjoy Shepard and even most of the game bar right at the end (I assume is what your bitter about). Though personally I did not have hurt feelings or have an urge to hate or rage over it because the game did what all games purpose is to do for me which is provide entertainment which at the most basic levels upwards is what gaming actually is a form of as an industry.


Not everyone plays games for the sole sake of entertainment. If I wanted to be merely entertained, I'd watch terrible Sci-Fi original movies. Some of us got attached to Mass Effect for it's compelling story in a universe completely shaped by our choice as a player. It's compelling until you find out that the end will be the same no matter what you chose. We got robbed. If you were happy with the ending, that's fine. The more die hard fans are understandably upset.





Kind of cheap to assume that just because some one is satisfied with the ending they aren't a diehard fan imo. 

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I kinda like the indoctrination theory. Sure, it makes it out as Shepard being weak (they managed to get into his mind that far). But he is the only one that have managed to stay as clear as he had considering the influence various Reaper tech have had on him.

And for all we know, he might have some Reaper tech inside him, keeping him alive to start with? (or perhaps that is answered somewhere, in that case, scrap this last sentence xD)


Indoctrination theory is dead. The Prothean VI can sense indoctrination, and since it takes a while for someone like shepard or saren to be indoctrinated, I don't think so.

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Vlta wrote...

zegota wrote...

Ugh. Reading over this thread more, I'm seriously disturbed. People are treating the ending to a story as if it's a software bug that needs to patched. There goes the whole "video games are art" thing.


I really don't get this. Video games are not art. They are a story, like any book or movie. This particular story is almost completly controled by you the player. All the choices you get to make in the three games helps you shape your shepard, and Bioware threw that all away in the last 5min of the last game. Even if it was art, which it isn't, bad art is still bad art no matter how you look at it and at least with a video game you can correct such mistakes.


You don't understand the definition of the word "art," apparently. Stories are art. Books are art. Movies are art. And actually, your statement that "bad art is still bad art" actually supports me. You're right. Bad art is still art. And art doesn't change based on the whims of some vocal group. I happen to dislike Picasso. That doesn't mean I think Picasso should have painted something different. He painted what he painted, and I didn't like it. So be it.

There's no mistake to be fixed here. There's no bug to be patched. Bioware didn't make a mistake. They made the ending(s) they wanted to make, and you happened not to like them. Tough cookies. There are a lot of movies I don't like. That doesn't mean I consider them "mistakes" to be fixed.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Omnike wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Omnike wrote...


EternalAmbiguity wrote...



It doesn't matter if it matters. You still had a good time. You still enjoyed yourself.

You need to take a closer look. You can't see the trees for the forest, if you will.

The ending is not all that matters.

Ever been in love before? had a first kiss? Even though you're probably not still with that person, do you remember that moment, those times with fondness? It's that idea.


That's not at all the same thing. Let's say you worked your ass off to get that kiss. Flowers, dates, the whole nine yards. It all costs money out of your pocket. Now let's say after all that hard work she finally wants to kiss you. And you're excited. Then you find out she doesn't have a tongue or teeth and it was the most unstasfying kiss ever and then she proceded to balletically kick you in the nads before running away giggling about how artistic she was... All that hard work didn't pay off.


Eternal (imho) is right the problem is some of you are so heavily influenced by your hurt feelings and lack of self control over your emotions (right now currently) about the very last element of hundreds of hours content and enjoyment that you believe everything that has come before was worthless and you would be incorrect, everything up until this point you had fun, you enjoyed you was happy and you cannot erase that no matter how over the top reactive you feel right now. He is right in that for two titles you and/or others did very much enjoy Shepard and even most of the game bar right at the end (I assume is what your bitter about). 

Though personally I did not have hurt feelings or have an urge to hate or rage over it because the game did what all games purpose is to do for me which is provide entertainment which at the most basic levels upwards is what gaming actually is a form of as an industry. I am not a noobie, or newcomer and have been here longer than a lot of people, played most of Biowares titles from start to finish over the years, I am not diluded or irrational, neither am I unable to understand why some people are unhappy. But even I can see some of you are just too consumed by anger to be completley rational over your reactions. 


Not everyone plays games for the sole sake of entertainment. If I wanted to be merely entertained, I'd watch terrible Sci-Fi original movies. Some of us got attached to Mass Effect for it's compelling story in a universe completely shaped by our choice as a player. It's compelling until you find out that the end will be the same no matter what you chose. We got robbed. If you were happy with the ending, that's fine. The more die hard fans are understandably upset.


What do you think entertainment means? Switching to the word compelling does not divert the principle. When something is compelling to you it is because it is entertaining you on some level.


Basic entertainment. You walked away entertained, and that's fine. Some of us got immersed and cheated. Sure, the entertainment was there, but the immersion was totally thrown away at the end. The basic value of being entertained was not enough.

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It really doesn't matter what my favorite moment is because ME3's ending really made me feel like all of it was for nothing. The entire series was pure genius story-telling that rivaled the fiction of every fantasy world known to man.

I've never witnessed an ending to anything that left a taste in my mouth that sour. And I'm sorry, but everyone saying "Aw shucks, the ending wasn't so bad..." are clearly people who don't understand or fully appreciate what they just played. I don't know if the developers/writers just completely ran out of gas at the end, or if they really just didn't know how to end it.

As brilliant a the rest of the game was, it blows my mind to see it end the way it did. I actually wondered if maybe Bioware did it on purpose. However, the Genophage being cured was probably my favorite moment of the series.

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I really can't say anything else that hasn't already been said.

But hopefully you still read what I have to say (it's not all negative, I promise). I'm not happy about the ending. I'm not happy with it for a couple of reasons. On a surface level (just focusing on the physical ending itself), it's abrupt, incoherent and lacks any resolution. It doesn't bother me that the ending itself is tragic. It's how it was executed and told. Let me try to explain it in a way that best replicates my experience:

I just got done fighting an epic battle. I'm on earth, and after 99 + hours of playing one of the most epic stories of my lifetime, I'm making the final push for humanity. As I run to towards the Citadel in a gripping sequence, I get hit by a laser. From here on out..I'm thrust into this slow motion dream like state. As I stumble to the light, I'm taken to a room where a god like figure tells me that everything I had thought was wrong (and what I thought was one of the main motivations for me fighting). And while I could even accept this notion (I mean, Reapers were ancient technology, and we knew little about them), to then be told that there is only three options...even though Shepard could have said no to all three, was one of the most deflating experiences in my life. For a game that was full of choice, that asked me (the player) to help shape the story, I'm now forced to pick three options, all equally compromising of Shepard and everything she stood for. And EVEN that I might accept, had Shepard at least fought against it at first. Had she tried to reason with the AI, and make an argument for life in the galaxy. But nope, she just went along with it. Didn't even question what was being said, and gives in, throwing out everything that made her, well...Shepard.

So after being pulled mid-climax from the story and whisked away in a room where some God figure tells me how things are, the game cuts to a 3 min segment of footage. None of it follows a logical progression, and time is missing in between. Why is Joker flying away from Earth? How did he get to the new planet? How did my entire squad go from being on earth with me, to being on the Normandy safe and sound? For a 100+ hour trilogy, this as an ending is just baffling. It literally doesn't fit with the narrative.

Imagine reading an epic book, and the book stops on the 2nd to last chapter, mid climax. Then a new character that has had nothing to do with your entire adventure is introduced and tells you everything you fought for is wrong, and then you are forced to make choices that are against your very being. And then the final chapter after that was just a bunch of events described with no order to how they happened. This is how Mass Effect 3 ends.

So regardless of how ones feels about the ending (good, bad, philosophically, thematically) - it's just a bad ending in general.

And I haven't even gotten into the plot holes, lore errors, the illogical nature and the cheapness that is the Star Child. Essentially you decided to introduce a new character at the very last second of the entire trilogy, who then takes control of the story. The reasoning for the reapers is just non-sense. We created synthetics to kill you every 50k year, so you don't create synthetics to...kill yourself. Okay...so why don't they just kill synthetics? The Reapers are certainly powerful enough, why not just wipe out synthetics. If the end goal is to not kill organic life, then why kill them at all? Especially in those large of numbers. There really is no REASON behind why they Reapers are doing what they are doing. In the original script with the Dark energy plot, they at least had a purpose for doing what they are doing. But even if I did buy into this logic, why didn't Shepard just de-program the Catalyst? Why didn't she fight for life to be able to destroy the reapers, and try to solve their problems themselves?

Now the good. I can honestly say prior to the ending, this was one of the most emotional experiences I've had out of any game/tv/movie/book. I've never been this emotionally attached and moved by characters and plot. I actually cried during this game, and on numerous occasions. For me, this was your best story-driven game to date (especially within the series). The pacing was phenomenal, and almost every mission had high stakes. Had moments of closure and finality. The fact that you were able to cover so many stories from past games, and bring resolution to them was breathtaking.

I think what makes Mass Effect so special, is that it deals with very human themes that are relevant today. This idea of: is it worth giving up free will, if it means being safer or protecting future life? Or is it better to have danger, to die, if it means remaining free. Especially today, these are VERY important themes. And so, the irony is that for 99% of the game - Shepard and our characters fought to be free. But when all was said and done, Shepard rolled over and gave into the Star Child. Accepting his terms. Not truly using her free will. This to me, was the ultimate failure of Mass Effect's ending.

The positive to take away from this is that you guys did a lot right. Believe me, you did. People wouldn't be this upset if they didn't love the games so dearly. If there very souls weren't touched by the deeper messages of the game. But it's this very reason that people feel more endings should be added (or an extension/clarification is needed). This is was not the end of Mass Effect 3. You guys are better than this. The story is better than this. 

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I beat ME 1 and 2 multiple times, and still went back to change my decisions to see what impact it would have on the next game. After playing threw ME3 once I never felt like playing it over again.

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s8383783 wrote...

Kind of cheap to assume that just because some one is satisfied with the ending they aren't a diehard fan imo. 

Kind of cheap to assume that because you are satisfied with the ending that means you have the correct opinion.

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s8383783 wrote...


Kind of cheap to assume that just because some one is satisfied with the ending they aren't a diehard fan imo. 


Exactly. I can guarantee I've played and read a lot -- A LOT -- more Mass Effect than the average person. And I loved the ending. So :-p

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Himmelstor wrote...

s8383783 wrote...

Kind of cheap to assume that just because some one is satisfied with the ending they aren't a diehard fan imo. 

Kind of cheap to assume that because you are satisfied with the ending that means you have the correct opinion.


Right.

Satisfied? THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE THE CORRECT OPINION!

Dissatisfied? Well, obviously that's the "right" way to think and Bioware needs to "fix" this "bug."

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zegota wrote...

s8383783 wrote...


Kind of cheap to assume that just because some one is satisfied with the ending they aren't a diehard fan imo. 


Exactly. I can guarantee I've played and read a lot -- A LOT -- more Mass Effect than the average person. And I loved the ending. So :-p


You were satisfied with an ending that had little to no explanation? An ending that, in some cases, didn't even make sense? Some die hard fan... :whistle:

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Vlta wrote...

If the story has a bad ending it ruins the whole thing. There were many good things in ME3 but knowing that no matter what you're always going to get those same three crap endings ruins not only the third game but the other two as well. Does this destroy my life. No. (dunno but some others) But it sure as hell ruins this series and any faith I had in this company.


As I said earlier...

You're going to die one day. None of what you've done will matter. Does that make all of this in-between so much dust in your hands, worthless and empty? or do you find enjoyment in the smaller picture?


I personally plan to try and have as big an impact on my country as possible, and make it last, but that is something completly diifferent.

By your logic because I am going to die at some point, hell if I know when, I should just accept everything as is just because.

I could go for gold on this and make a whole rant but you seem to be aiming to get this whole thing off topic

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

not... exactly  (especialy if the relationship ends badly, all you remember is the breakup)

much earlier i na thread, someone compared it to a trip to amusement park.
I like that analogy.  I mean you get all these fantastic rides and ice cream and awesome music and the sun is shining and then it starts to drissle, but you hide out in this awesome indoor arcade and then the day is almost over and you go to that last rollrcoaster of the day.  you are strapped in, careful, you took your dramamine so that you don't get nauseated.  and the rollercoaster goes off rails, crushes you into a wall and breaks half the bones in your body.  what are you going to remember.  the rest of the day?  or the pain of your bones breaking, emergency room trip and all the time you spent reccuperating.

now imagine that you know, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that the next time you go to the park?  it doesn't matter which friends you bring, doesn't matter what montho r day of the week, doesn't matter the weather or which atractions you chose to indulge in.  that last rollercoaster ride of the day.. that you cannot avoid if you want to leave the park.  will ALWAYS crush and break half the bones in your body.  no matter what.  and the only real choice you have is.. right side, left side, or pelvis/collarbone.

this is what ending of ME3 does. 


That is, unquestionably, the worst analogy on this I've heard, and the person who said that needs to get their head examined.

It's absolutely utterly ridiculous, completely RIDICULOUS, to compare the ending of ME3 to being crushed and breaking half the bones in your body. That's shameful. That's utterly shameful.

Throwing up, I can understand. or, as happened to us one time, rust water from the ride ruined our clothes.

But comparing it to permanent, damaging physical injury? Someone needs to get a grip. That's despicable.


1.  it was me who completed the analogy.
2.  broken bones are not permanent.
3.  the consequences of the ME3 endings are basicaly the same.  no matter which path you take, your Shepard will end up broken, Galaxy in shambles.  kinda like that rollercoaster always going of rails no matter what you do, even if you check everything for safety personaly.  becasue its scripted to and there's absolutely nothing you can do to change it.

but fine.  I'll change it to throwing up every single time you go on that last rollecoaster.  and by throwing up, I mean to the point where you have nothing left and you are going through dry heaves and your throat is on fire.  sure, it will stop soon enough, but imagine knowing that every time you go to that park, the same exact thing will happen every time.  and the only difference is the color of your vomit.

so no.  it doesn't matter how great the rest of the park is.  becasue all the way through you'd be dreading that last ride that ends in vomit. 

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zegota wrote...

s8383783 wrote...


Kind of cheap to assume that just because some one is satisfied with the ending they aren't a diehard fan imo. 


Exactly. I can guarantee I've played and read a lot -- A LOT -- more Mass Effect than the average person. And I loved the ending. So :-p

This isn't exactly where the 'average person' (such an entitiy I doubt actually exists, let alone in large numbers) comes to talk shop, either.

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Oh I also wanted to chime in that your animators really made that requited/unrequited love with Liara thing work with some masterful work in animating her facial expressions it was subtle and well suiting.  It made me wish I romanced her but my Shepherd is too loyal.

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Omnike wrote...

zegota wrote...

s8383783 wrote...


Kind of cheap to assume that just because some one is satisfied with the ending they aren't a diehard fan imo. 


Exactly. I can guarantee I've played and read a lot -- A LOT -- more Mass Effect than the average person. And I loved the ending. So :-p


You were satisfied with an ending that had little to no explanation? An ending that, in some cases, didn't even make sense? Some die hard fan... :whistle:


It made perfect sense, and had plenty of foreshadowing. Perhaps you're the one who doesn't understand things as well as he thinks he does?

But oh, definitely not! You must be the diehard fan, and anyone who disagrees with you is just an idiot casual player. Wonderful argument, that. Certainly makes it impossible to have a genuine difference of opinion on a story.

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zegota wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

s8383783 wrote...

Kind of cheap to assume that just because some one is satisfied with the ending they aren't a diehard fan imo. 

Kind of cheap to assume that because you are satisfied with the ending that means you have the correct opinion.


Right.

Satisfied? THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE THE CORRECT OPINION!

Dissatisfied? Well, obviously that's the "right" way to think and Bioware needs to "fix" this "bug."

We're not saying we're right, necessarily.
We're saying we're dissatisfied, we have some arguments to back it up, and would like some resolution to the ending.

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Stop pressing that button was the most epic moment in gaming history.

Outside of it .. Everything which had to be said was said  from many different angle .

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Another thing I wanted to add, was I noticed quite a view animations were glitchy. Not to mention some rather glaring clipping errors.

This article essentially sums up the reasons why I am unhappy with ME3:

http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 16 mars 2012 - 05:42 .


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zegota wrote...

s8383783 wrote...


Kind of cheap to assume that just because some one is satisfied with the ending they aren't a diehard fan imo. 


Exactly. I can guarantee I've played and read a lot -- A LOT -- more Mass Effect than the average person. And I loved the ending. So :-p


Some people are going to like. I myself find it to be irreprehensible, ad does a great deal of other players.