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[XLH tprlynn]

while i admit there were some amazing moments and hard hitting choices that brought everything that mass effect is to this game im afraid to say that the ending was a massive let down for me to have worked up so hard from the beggining making tough choices choosing who lived and died which races to save and which to help exterminate all ended in what is for lack of a better word 3(4 if your forces are trully ready) endings identical with minor differences making it a huge let down that was lacking the impact i have come to expect from bioware in the end it killed the enjoyment of finishing the game to end up with such a futility in options please bring back the ability to truely shape our own game to the ending

[jeska22]

thx for listening players feedback, hope we will get something , an other ending or at list a big explanation.. i loved every minute of this game, except when i realized the ends depends of my favorite color, and not related to my choices made during ME1 ME2 & 3

[Jersey75639]

I loved everything except the last 10 minutes with that AI kid, how all you get at the end is a nearly identical scene other than colors and minor differences, how the scene with the Normandy speeding away makes no sense because the people that step out of the Normandy should not have been in the Normandy, except for Joker who should have been piloting the Normandy somewhere above London and not speeding away from an explosion he would not have been able to predict. I hate how nothing you do in the game matters in the ending. I would have preferred a blank screen after you struggle into the beam than basically all of the scenes that follow. That would have been 'open to interpretation' and cause similar dissatisfaction, but at least it wouldn't leave gaping plot holes everywhere. I hate how you are forced to accept everything the kid says as fact when there is no reason to trust him and several reasons not to. I hate how the discussion with him is his monologue and not an actual discussion, and how Shepard offers no argument to anything the kid says. I hate how there is a subset of these forums who have decided the only way your plot makes sense is if it was all a dream; I doubt that was your intention and the fact that their theory makes more sense than your actual plot really boggles my mind. If it was your intention, I'm not sure why you ended the game there and didn't immediately explain yourselves either through epilogue or through spoiler-tagged information.

I don't know. The ending just all feels wrong to me and apparently a significant portion of the people who have played it. And not just wrong because it's not the perfect ending, because that is unrealistic to expect from anyone, even people who are normally as good at storytelling as you; I just expected an ending with some sort of closure that made sense.

Why do I feel like I'm stuck in the middle of some elaborate pre-April Fool's joke?

[Lethys1]

Indoctrination theory is not as much theory as it is just what happened....so the game requires an ending.  Not the game actually, just the story.

I do love that the writers basically admit that Saren and The Illusive Man both would have been able to stop the Reaper threat in their own way for some amount of time, because of the story that boy was being told by his grandpa happening regardless of which path you choose.

Modifié par Lethys1, 16 mars 2012 - 08:56 .

[psychobudgie]

I deliberately stayed clear of the forums and reviews until I completed the game. I was however vaguely aware of a kerfuffle over the ending however I am also in the 11% for the most. The only bit I didn't like was the whole starchild post credits part which I felt was unnecessary. Other than that I figured out it was happening in his head from the moment he got up and it gave off that whole Dragon Age Fade vibe.

I do however believe that there is a gap between him completing or rejecting indoctrination and they deliberately cut the part leading to joker fleeing and I have no doubt that Bioware/EA had planned to peddle DLC to fill that gap. I personally think that they completely misjudged this and it's coming back to bite them on the behind.

Modifié par psychobudgie, 16 mars 2012 - 08:58 .

[llLegionll]

for me this ending is a "mutilated ending", a lot of questions run in my brain, I hoped to speak one last time with the herald to know the origins of the reapers, but nothing, i hoped to speak seriously with TIM but nothing, so when I can find out these things? have you prepared some bases to create another mass effect chapter? I'm sad,satisfied and embittered by the ending, but why destroy all GR? All systems will be isolated now... And why the Blue ending will kill JS? thanks

[Fred_MacManus]

Treavor647 wrote...

(game stop in my area stop taking ME3 trade ins)

This says a lot right here. I have not, before this, heard of a game that was so poorly received that Game Stop refused to accept trade ins of the game only a week after it was released.

That says more about how badly EA/Bioware frakked this game up than anything we "whiners" could possibly say. 

[Pallowin]

Mychosis wrote...

Mass Effect 1 ended and my first thought was " i need to play that again and see what i missed"
Mass Effect 2 ended and my first thought was " i need to play both games again and see what i can do differently"
Mass Effect 3 ended and my first thought was " i cant believe i wasted all those hours trying to change things when none of it ever mattered"
now dont get me wrong, the rest of the game was brilliant, beautiful and alive, but did you outsource the ending?

This

[jwiedeman]

This game was fantastic, right up until the end. What an incredible letdown that was. SO anticlimactic. There's no closure for any of your people, so many huge plot holes I could fly the entire galaxy's united fleet through them, and no explanation for half the stuff that happens in the last half hour. I'm not saying there should be all happy endings- but maybe one, and ALL should have more to them. I spent so many hours playing these games and then -BAM- it was over in less than a few minutes and in a very 'WTF just happened?' kind of way. To end it like that is a betrayal of everything BW built up through the first 2 games, and of everyone who spent so much time and money on them.

I HATE the fact that MP is linked in ANY way to my SP game. If I wanted to play a multiplayer game, I would, but the ME games started out as SP, and that's what I wanted. I feel like I'm forced to MP to boost the EMS in my SP game, and that's garbage, Bioware. And to all those going on about 'stop whining, just MP'- shut it. I bought a SP game because that's what I wanted. There should be a way for me to boost GR without MP, if I choose not to MP. Also, every time the EA servers won't connect, I can't resume my game. Apparently, it has to verify my DLC every time, but if the servers are down, it can't. Then I can't play my game because the DLC I was making use of in that game can't be verified. WTF, EA/BW? I understand trying to stop pirating, but this is ridiculous.

Something I think was a fantastic addition, though, was the narrative gameplay. I know a lot of gamers who don't care at all about beating 4million enemies at once, they're just interested in the story, and this setting allows them to do that while not getting frustrated and angry about the combat difficulty. I think it's something that should be included in more games, and I think it will really increase game sales as these games pick up more of the 'story-driven romantic' players.

[nikola8]

While I have heard a LOT of speculation and theories regarding the ending, one thing is sure: Bioware has announced that, while this game is the end of Shepard's story, it is not the end of games in the Mass Effect universe- ie. they have specifically said to keep your ME3 save file. My assumption is that the "epilogue" that many people want will be addressed in future games with new protagonists.

Modifié par nikola8, 16 mars 2012 - 09:06 .

[Petrikles]

Back in ME2, one of the critic points was that Shepard has very few personal moments. He seemed like a machine with no emotional life at all. I figure all things connected to that little boy, the dreams, are a try to bring in the more emotional side. For me, that failed. For me, it was not necessary, because the emotional side of Shepard, that was me, the player. Now, I feel kind of forced what and how I have to feel. From numerous player feedback in here, I can see some people having the same issue.

But, other than the ending issue, the game is a total blast. OP, either you ask about the ending or you ask about the best moments during the game. These are total different issues and you shouldn´t be doubting that ME3 has many, many great moments for every kind of player, well, except for the ending, and that´s what we should concentrate on here, no?

Negative points about the ending:
- I don´t like non-happy endings (yes, not really a point)
- no connection to everything before, deus ex machina is a story technique which is known to be avoided
- blatant copy of another famous game´s story technique, but in the other franchise it actually did fit into the plot and mood (conspiracy)
- effectively destroying the setting of the mass effect universe
- effectively destroying strong leading themes of the story arc (tolerance, responsability/consequences, enlightenment, friendship, e.a.)

Consequences for further procedure:
- uphold leading themes
- establish connection
- maintain mass effect universe as a place to re-visit

Modifié par Kailord, 16 mars 2012 - 09:15 .

[KralleRuskUsDusk]

I loved the ending, i mean seeing good old Shep gasping for air in the rubble of London was a relief, im very happy he survived. Altho think it would be good with a DLC when you get to meet up with your team members and LI and see how things are with the reapers gone.

Note that i fully belive in the hallucination theory / indoctrination. "Was the ending a hallucination?" forum thread have summerized this in a good way. worth a read.

[Alsuras]

I'd like to know why you guys are not discussing the ending in the spoiler friendly forum, telling us that it's because not everyone has finished it yet seems kind of like BS to me. This is a forum specifically meant for spoilers, so surely anyone who hasn't finished it won't be coming in here, and if they do they'll be doing so knowing full bloody well that the ending's being as they are rubbish and unpopular will be the most talked about subject.

[Delpinolikespotatoes]

My favourite part of the Mass Effect saga is when you have to destroy the Sol Jump Node and leave the earth isolated in order to destroy the Shivans who are a machine race which is trying to whipe out the most advanced organics in order to preserve the new ones... Oh wait no, that's just Descent Freespace a game launched by Volition in 1998.

Modifié par Delpinolikespotatoes, 16 mars 2012 - 09:08 .

[mkgregory]

Chris

Firstly, thank you for posting here and letting people know that you are listening to the ongoing discussion. It does mean a lot! Your team has created what is undeniably the best science fiction FPS/RPG ever produced. That's not to say it was perfect (it wasn't), but it is miles ahead of anything else created so far. I am undecided yet as to whether ME3 was better than ME2, but I cannot include the ending for ME3 in any comparison because unfortunately I found the conclusion to my game gut-wrenchingly disappointing. Not that Shepherd made the ultimate sacrifice and died (I guessed it was coming to that from the lead-up and the goodbyes to all the remaining living characters on earth), but the way the final few minutes played out.

What struck me most about the ending was just how 'out-of-character' Shepard's capitulation was to the Catalyst and the choices offered to him. We've shared his journey through three games and a protracted, life-and-death struggle to save the galaxy from such an insidious and violent end, and at the pinnacle of the storyline he lays down his fight and his will, and meekly shuffles down one of three ordained paths to a future that he has given away his right to fight for. The arguments the catalyst used to explain the actions of the reapers, the synthetic versus organic line, didn't seem to mesh with the Geth and the Quarian finding a resolution to their differences (in my game), and that stuck in my mind the most: why didn't Shepherd use that to refute the suggestion that organic life was destined to always be destroyed by synthetics (overlooking the obvious contradiction of the Reapers carrying out the same self-fulfilling prophecy)? My paragon demonstrated that most of the alien species could work together when push came to shove. Did he suddenly forget all of his work to unite the galaxy?

Is this truly the end? I had every impression over the past few months that it was, hence the disappointment I felt at the other factor in my unhappiness, being a lack of closure for all the other characters I had become attached to along the way. If Bioware had other plans beyond the ending for expanding on these events via DLC, then my apologies but this seems to be a poor way to expect the player to be thrilled in being teased in such a way. I don't want to get into the people who liked it versus those that don't hatred, but I think you should actually be proud that so many people are so VERY passionate about this game and what happened at the end. I suspect that the most unhappy people are the ones who have sunk the most money, time and devotion into this game and made it the success that it is for Bioware. I've purchased every piece of DLC for ME1 and ME2, and I don't subscribe to any of the guff about the day 1 DLC. I think it's your right to sell the game however you want (at least your name is not Zynga!) But the loss I feel is worse than I expected, and that's credit to everyone involved in the project that it can ellicit that sort of response in a player.

The best ending to a sci-fi series I've ever seen would have to had been that from Babylon 5. Every adventure has to come to an end, but if this is it for ME3 then... well. The ride was fun. I can't revisit other DLC at this stage if it's only a doorstop on the way to the same conclusion. Please don't read that as a tantrum or threat, but I just want to put the game away and leave it for a while. Maybe once the dust settles the game may be worth revisiting.

The moment from the game that still sticks in my mind is the friendship Liara and Shepherd had (my RI was Ashley). The writers really nailed it, and there were no suggestions of sexuality, but a comradeship and a deeper, platonic relationship that was really nice to see. Oh, and the FMV with the space battles, particulary the Quarians fighting the Geth ship - awesome!

[EVL65R]

so much time and effort... awesome. I chose the Synergy ending, i couldnt kill the geth... so i guess multiple races are stranded in Sol system, the others are on Gilligans Planet, etc. But didnt the destruction of a ME relay obliterate a complete system in the Arrival DLC? I dunno guys, it REALLY looked like they sacked the wrong writers. i am so confused. what the hell? what happens to everyone? i was waiting for a "you've been rick-rolled!" vid at the end after the credits, then a "seriously though, here's the real ending". 2 x ME playthroughs, 5x ME2 playthroughs (accounting for 2 faithful LI's, and 3 x new LI's). i finished ME3 last night, and i think it will be my last. sorry guys, but that was a massive middle finger salute. the loyal, dedicated, TRUSTING and hard-working fans got shafted hard, no lube. closed fist.

and why have multiplayer? such an un-needed addition. ME has always been a Solo game. if i wanted a MP game, i'd play Halo, or COD or whatever. but i dont. when i play ME, i feel immersed in the rich universe,and no other game has made me feel like my decisions matter like. but the end?

really? thats it? fantastic.

[Saodade]

About the unsatisfaction of the end, this is what happen when you brake Inside out your customers, it lead them in Rage against the machine

[petipas4141]

A galaxy without relays is a galaxy that is doomed

All this ftl talk is forgetting that most ships probably wont have the resources to get back home

And I want to SEE Shepard with his love interest at the end. I don't want to have to use my imagination

[Commander Durza]

I loved Mass Effect 3 until the end and i hope you can fix this with DLC or patches but let me ask a few things:

1: so why didn't the Reapers just destroy all synthetics and keep a close eye on organics and stop them from creating synthetics. they could'ce just said "hey, we have witnessed entire civilizations be destroyed by their own creations, don't do that" no need for the secrecy
2: why would shepard walk into the explosion if we destroyed the reapers if he was already close to dying. bullets are meant to fight at a distance if all he had was his omni blade id understand but that was dumb.
3: what was the point in the proto-reaper from 2?

i loved BioWare and i pray you guys can fix this

[Teh Shaman]

I loved every single game , I love the universe, the characters, the music . I've grown along with the series and have grown attached to the characters i interact with on the game. I even cried a little when some died along the way of the whole series. It is sad that such an ending couldn't do the series justice but that doesn't imply that ME3 sucked... Quite the contrary ME3 was the best in the series and everything was so satisfying until the last 5 minutes of the game... Which destroyed my experience with the series as a whole.

My favorite scene? It would have to be on London when you talk to Garrus,Liara and the gang for a final showdown with the reapers.. I cried when Garrus started talking to me especially.

[Arilian]

It was a great game until the end.
I still cannot talk about the rest as I have PST because of it.

[EVL65R]

Delpinolikespotatoes wrote...

My favourite part of the Mass Effect saga is when you have to destroy the Sol Jump Node and leave the earth isolated in order to destroy the Shivans who are a machine race which is trying to whipe out the most advanced organics in order to preserve the new ones... Oh wait no, that's just Descent Freespace a game launched by Volition in 1998.

+1 LOLOLOL

[Slashice]

Bring back Drew Karpyshyn!

[talk_sick]

my favourite moment in ME3 is how you implemented voice commands for the kinect, and all that just 18 years after Sierra has done it in Command: Aces of the Deep.

Also it's kind of cool to see that ME3 is sooo advanced my PS3 version drops below one fps (clearly my hardware isn't up to spec and I need to upgrade my console with a new graphic card and some more ram).

[Insomnia87]

Jersey75639 wrote...

I loved everything except the last 10 minutes with that AI kid, how all you get at the end is a nearly identical scene other than colors and minor differences, how the scene with the Normandy speeding away makes no sense because the people that step out of the Normandy should not have been in the Normandy, except for Joker who should have been piloting the Normandy somewhere above London and not speeding away from an explosion he would not have been able to predict. I hate how nothing you do in the game matters in the ending. I would have preferred a blank screen after you struggle into the beam than basically all of the scenes that follow. That would have been 'open to interpretation' and cause similar dissatisfaction, but at least it wouldn't leave gaping plot holes everywhere. I hate how you are forced to accept everything the kid says as fact when there is no reason to trust him and several reasons not to. I hate how the discussion with him is his monologue and not an actual discussion, and how Shepard offers no argument to anything the kid says. I hate how there is a subset of these forums who have decided the only way your plot makes sense is if it was all a dream; I doubt that was your intention and the fact that their theory makes more sense than your actual plot really boggles my mind. If it was your intention, I'm not sure why you ended the game there and didn't immediately explain yourselves either through epilogue or through spoiler-tagged information.

I don't know. The ending just all feels wrong to me and apparently a significant portion of the people who have played it. And not just wrong because it's not the perfect ending, because that is unrealistic to expect from anyone, even people who are normally as good at storytelling as you; I just expected an ending with some sort of closure that made sense.

Why do I feel like I'm stuck in the middle of some elaborate pre-April Fool's joke?

This.^