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I have a lot of favorite moments in the mass effect series. Far too many to really list, but I will try to sum up what I can.
All the time I spent talking to my teammates. The degree to which everyone was developed, and that all my dialogue with them effected how they viewed me, every choice could change the way they felt about my Shepard. It was so well written sometimes I felt like was the one they were judging. I got to not only interact, but was able to make choices based in my own morality if I wanted, and the effects were there for me to see. Every relationship was masterfully written. For that alone, bravo bioware. That was amazing in ways I never thought possible in a video game.
The opening moments with the boy, trying to save him, and later watching him die. It really set the tone for the stakes in ME3. I felt like I knew then what I needed to do, more so than ever.
Every desperate attempt to warn the galaxy about the reapers. For some like myself, their was real frustration in pleading your case over and over to only to feel powerless by the start of ME3 when the full force of the Reapers hits earth and you know everything you tried to do to be ready meant almost nothing.
All these things and more made the ME trilogy amazing. I wanted all that effort, all those relationships, all the time and money I sunk into games,DLC, and reading up on forums, following posts and news letters to lead me into an ending that could bring real closure to the series.
Unfortunately this was not forthcoming. I beat ME3 only to find myself confused and wondering if this was a real ending or just some ploy, leading into something more. It felt like I had just read the lord of the rings and then ending had been just like the old choose your own adventure books. If you toss the ring in a fire go to page 100, Let golum kill you and take the ring pg.101, or if you want sauron to show up and take it back pg 102, and you get 3 paragraphs with no context for your choices. That's all I really wanted, context, closure, finality. Something that made me feel like hundreds of hours and dollars amounted to more than 3 options that lead to you only feeling befuddled.
The games are all still some of the best I have ever played, the franchise is a masterpiece of storytelling, and the team that brought it has my respect. I only ask that you respect us with for supporting you for so many years with more than a point and click choose your ending since nothing you do matters anyway and also we don't seem to care if you ever understand what happened to the galaxy ending.
Hoping to play through many more exciting adventures with amazing storytelling either way, but I can't say buying Bioware titles in the future won't come with deep skepticism.
On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening.
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#3252
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:12
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They always have fulfilled my expectations. Ive never left a Bioware experience without being fully satisfied. I actually think this may be their best twist ever. Even better than KotoR's twist...which is why at the moment I'm satisfied. I'm satisfied because I expect more content to be released in order to finish the fight. But if my instincts are wrong, and this really is the ending, Bioware would have essentially ruined my favorite videogame series of all time, but also would've ruined their uniqueness compared to all the developers that resort to conformity and watered down story telling. If its a twist with more to come, it may be the most brilliant twist not only in gaming history, but media history(games and movies)...on the flipside, if the ending is really what they were going for and Shepard is really awake while the last 10 mins transpired, than it will affectively be the biggest let down ever. I loved these characters through 3 games and spent countless hours getting to know them. Hell, I find Liara more interesting than my girlfriend sometimes haha pathetic? Ahh idc lol she's my favorite videogames character of all time..no other character comes close.....but Liara isnt the one that got me all watery eyed at the end....my homie Garrus had me really choking up bad. I had to pause the game for a minute after talking to him, before I made the final push to the conduit. These are so epic. I've never cried because of a movie.....but I came damn close after Garrus had that conversation with me about "meeting him at the bar in heaven...". Truly powerful stuff....too powerful for me to believe that they just made the last ten minutes make no sense whatsoever for no reason at all....and they don't make any sense unless interpreted like they weren't taking place in reality
#3253
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:13
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talk_sick wrote...
my favourite moment in ME3 is how you implemented voice commands for the kinect, and all that just 18 years after Sierra has done it in Command: Aces of the Deep.
Also it's kind of cool to see that ME3 is sooo advanced my PS3 version drops below one fps (clearly my hardware isn't up to spec and I need to upgrade my console with a new graphic card and some more ram).
Had no FPS problems on my 360 version. Couple of freezes, but that's about it. And a couple of broken side-quests.
#3254
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:13
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Seriously, this was exactly what I thought.Pallowin wrote...
Mychosis wrote...
Mass Effect 1 ended and my first thought was " i need to play that again and see what i missed"
Mass Effect 2 ended and my first thought was " i need to play both games again and see what i can do differently"
Mass Effect 3 ended and my first thought was " i cant believe i wasted all those hours trying to change things when none of it ever mattered"
now dont get me wrong, the rest of the game was brilliant, beautiful and alive, but did you outsource the ending?
This
#3255
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:13
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I loved ME3 right up til the elevator. All the great moments. Grunt's desperate battle, Mordin dying, killing Kai Leng for killing Thane.
But it missed so many things. As alot of people said the ending is disjointed, but there were other opportunities missed. Harbinger shoots you in the game, and that's all you see of him. A verbal showdown with Harbinger before firing the Crucible could have even been nice. Talking to Sovereign in the original gave me chills, or talking to the Reaper on Rannoch. TIM's cool, but you ignore other stuff that seem to be setup.
Or what about other points dropped, liked the mysterious dark energy affecting the sun from Tali's recruitment mission in ME2?
Or exploring the dangers of indoctrination better? It was easy to figure that Cerberus was indoctrinated, but I convinced myself that we'd run into a twist with Hackett or Anderson being indoctrinated and setting you up. Nope, went the obvious route, despite all the warnings of the Protheans being betrayed by their own people, and even Javik's betrayal by his own indoctrinated squadmates(why not even have to deal with that choice in a bad ending?)
Or the complete destruction of the games themes by the ending? Shepard dying next to Anderson would have been sweet mercy instead of the 5 minute cutscene.
But it missed so many things. As alot of people said the ending is disjointed, but there were other opportunities missed. Harbinger shoots you in the game, and that's all you see of him. A verbal showdown with Harbinger before firing the Crucible could have even been nice. Talking to Sovereign in the original gave me chills, or talking to the Reaper on Rannoch. TIM's cool, but you ignore other stuff that seem to be setup.
Or what about other points dropped, liked the mysterious dark energy affecting the sun from Tali's recruitment mission in ME2?
Or exploring the dangers of indoctrination better? It was easy to figure that Cerberus was indoctrinated, but I convinced myself that we'd run into a twist with Hackett or Anderson being indoctrinated and setting you up. Nope, went the obvious route, despite all the warnings of the Protheans being betrayed by their own people, and even Javik's betrayal by his own indoctrinated squadmates(why not even have to deal with that choice in a bad ending?)
Or the complete destruction of the games themes by the ending? Shepard dying next to Anderson would have been sweet mercy instead of the 5 minute cutscene.
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Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:15
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nikola8 wrote...
While I have heard a LOT of speculation and theories regarding the ending, one thing is sure: Bioware has announced that, while this game is the end of Shepard's story, it is not the end of games in the Mass Effect universe- ie. they have specifically said to keep your ME3 save file. My assumption is that the "epilogue" that many people want will be addressed in future games with new protagonists.
Well Bioware better hope they have an audience to shill the next game to let alone the planned movie, dlc, and , other Mass Effect products. Waiting a couple years for any form of an explanation will not fly with many.
#3257
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:15
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Well to be honest if the indoctrination theory is correct then I would salute you bioware
#3258
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:16
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Favourite Moment..... hmm... Well I have to pick two.
1. Finding out that the prothean's were actually asses (CE DLC)
2. Reuniting will my old squaddies(Especially Thane's on a certain citadel priority) Even though it made me sad
1. Finding out that the prothean's were actually asses (CE DLC)
2. Reuniting will my old squaddies(Especially Thane's on a certain citadel priority) Even though it made me sad
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Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:18
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You know how we all say "it's fake" when anybody claims he's an insider and DLC was coming?
If I didn't play Mass Effect 3's ending myself and only saw screenshots and read a transcription of it, I'd say it's a fake, and not even a good one. ^^
If I didn't play Mass Effect 3's ending myself and only saw screenshots and read a transcription of it, I'd say it's a fake, and not even a good one. ^^
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#3260
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:19
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Great game. Really. Almost everything was awesome.
But i feel terribly frustrated with the ending. I almost feel that all my fights and choices were useless all along. There should have been almost enough endings for everyone with all the possibilities. It could have been a good ending for another game i think. That's not an ending for my shepard.
An other point is Tali's face. That was bad not to be able to see her face really in game but that not the point of this topic.
Really great game despite the ending. I hope the future dlc will bring what everyone want.
But i feel terribly frustrated with the ending. I almost feel that all my fights and choices were useless all along. There should have been almost enough endings for everyone with all the possibilities. It could have been a good ending for another game i think. That's not an ending for my shepard.
An other point is Tali's face. That was bad not to be able to see her face really in game but that not the point of this topic.
Really great game despite the ending. I hope the future dlc will bring what everyone want.
#3261
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:21
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99% of the entirety of Mass Effect is pure gold. The very end, however, is just...well it's either the biggest outrage in not just video game, but STORY TELLING history, or the most brilliant, fourth-wall breaking, innovational, and devilishly twisted mind**** conclusion in history, as far as I'm concerned. I can't imagine how the seemingly genius team who brought us 99% of Mass Effect could leave us with this disappointment.
I think the Indoctrination Theory is a perfectly valid way for the story to progress from the current "ending" of ME3. Enough evidence is there, and it would really be an amazing twist and final hurdle for Shepard to overcome. To not only be able to kill the Reapers, but repel the corruption that emanates from them. The thought of struggling for Shepard's free will through a surreal, bleak, hallucination and coming out the other side just gets me so pumped. It really makes Shepard's "strong will" and badassery seem much more tangible. I think a continuation of Shepard succumbing to indoctrination would also be very interesting and provocative, but as an OPTION. (Options are part of what makes this series so good. DA too.)
To clarify, I think the Reapers have been sending out indoctrinating signals out to Shepard the entire game. But they do not succeed until the final sequence, if Shepard gives in the the blue or green choices. That is the pinnacle moment where Shepard chooses his fate. Where he either gives in or breaks free permanently. He cannot be indoctrinated the entire time as the Prothean VI did not detect any corruption in him while it DID detect it in others (i.e. Kai Leng). Of course perhaps there's something I am missing that makes Shepard different. Not a big deal to me.
This could be a moment of rebirth for Shepard. All of this fighting and stress and self-doubt, defeated in this moment. The final attempt of the Reapers to consume Shepard actually backfires on them and only strengthens his resolve to finish the fight.
I think it would be extremely heart-warming to wake up after choosing to destroy the Reapers in the
"Twilight Zone" sequence (as I just now decided to call it) to your squad mates trying to revive you. Or even finding out it had all happened in a split second. It would be so comforting to have my beloved companions right there beside me right after I had been confronted by a complete and utter nihilistic situation. Talk about an emotional roller coaster!
Anyways, then the fight would continue. It would be nice to see more of the assets we assembled. I had a feeling that the people/things I was gathering would end up just being statistics. And it seems I was right. I mean, that's fine. Not my biggest issue. But it would be QUITE rewarding to see the people I gathered kicking ass. To see Jack and her biotic biker gang (that's right), and all those other people I can't think of right now (Jack's biotic biker gang is distracting me. May have struck gold here). Yeah, people would probably die. It would be nice to have a say in that, as well, and all that. And there would still be the problem of killing all those damnable Reapers. Maybe the Crucible really is a weapon or something and the star child (which is obviously an attempt to indoctrinate/mess with Shepard from the very start) was just lying about it to completely utterly **** with him. But yeah, there were plenty of situations in ME1 and 2 that felt hopeless, but we got through it somehow, and it didn't feel cheesy. So I know BioWare can do it again. They have the technology.
In regards to some of the stuff I'm hearing from "The Final Hours." It seems like those ideas that were cut were actually really good ones. I'm not one for corny, cliche, worn out plot devices. But games usually need a final boss. I really hope I don't have to list any reasons. It's just...the right thing in most cases. ESPECIALLY in a game that has such compelling and well-developed antagonists. I, personally, was expecting at least 2 boss fights in the end (TIM and Harbinger). Needless to say I felt like someone ripped my lungs out. I don't even smoke! ...often. And when I DO, I don't inhale.....cigars and pipes you see.... >.>
ANYWAYS...
Thank you for all of the great relationships, stories, characters, guns, musics, battles, emotions, dialogues, spaceships, planets, elevators, and load screens. Mass Effect is the best sci-fi/fantasy universe I have ever experienced. Better than Star Wars. Better than Star Trek. (Please don't hate. These statements are my opinion but I am declaring them as fact. Maybe this will appease the Old Machines). Of course the series exhibits features of both of those and more, but in a way that has never seemed unoriginal. In fact, it is just similar enough to invoke my love for those other worlds without getting protective of them. It's like they know exactly what works in sci-fi and used just enough to....sorry, I'm rambling. I'm just damn impressed with these games. BUT. Of course. Mass Effect deserves a better ending. I want to believe that you guys are planning something crazy. That would be awesome. But if not, please listen to us. Take our suggestions. If this was truly just because of a time-crunch or a bad judgement call...please change it. It's obvious the game wasn't meant to end this way. Perhaps a higher power intervened and allowed just enough ambiguity for the ending to be salvaged. I don't know. But MY Commander Shepard's story isn't over. He cannot-WILL not die until the Reapers are ANNIHILATED. Or he will die trying. And NO. Not like that. He will go down in a blaze of glory. Not shooting a fire extinguisher case in space.
I apologize if my thoughts seem disorganized. If they do, it's probably because my thoughts are disorganized. I've spent most of the past 30 hours (since I beat the game) reading forums and watching videos about various theories and people's takes on the endings, so my mind is all over the place. I literally can't stop checking the Mass Effect Twitter in the hope of hearing some sort of news from BioWare in regards to this whole situation. But yeah, I just wanted to participate, since they say they are reading our posts. I want to be a part of this. This game is worth coming out of my shell and expressing myself!
I think the Indoctrination Theory is a perfectly valid way for the story to progress from the current "ending" of ME3. Enough evidence is there, and it would really be an amazing twist and final hurdle for Shepard to overcome. To not only be able to kill the Reapers, but repel the corruption that emanates from them. The thought of struggling for Shepard's free will through a surreal, bleak, hallucination and coming out the other side just gets me so pumped. It really makes Shepard's "strong will" and badassery seem much more tangible. I think a continuation of Shepard succumbing to indoctrination would also be very interesting and provocative, but as an OPTION. (Options are part of what makes this series so good. DA too.)
To clarify, I think the Reapers have been sending out indoctrinating signals out to Shepard the entire game. But they do not succeed until the final sequence, if Shepard gives in the the blue or green choices. That is the pinnacle moment where Shepard chooses his fate. Where he either gives in or breaks free permanently. He cannot be indoctrinated the entire time as the Prothean VI did not detect any corruption in him while it DID detect it in others (i.e. Kai Leng). Of course perhaps there's something I am missing that makes Shepard different. Not a big deal to me.
This could be a moment of rebirth for Shepard. All of this fighting and stress and self-doubt, defeated in this moment. The final attempt of the Reapers to consume Shepard actually backfires on them and only strengthens his resolve to finish the fight.
I think it would be extremely heart-warming to wake up after choosing to destroy the Reapers in the
"Twilight Zone" sequence (as I just now decided to call it) to your squad mates trying to revive you. Or even finding out it had all happened in a split second. It would be so comforting to have my beloved companions right there beside me right after I had been confronted by a complete and utter nihilistic situation. Talk about an emotional roller coaster!
Anyways, then the fight would continue. It would be nice to see more of the assets we assembled. I had a feeling that the people/things I was gathering would end up just being statistics. And it seems I was right. I mean, that's fine. Not my biggest issue. But it would be QUITE rewarding to see the people I gathered kicking ass. To see Jack and her biotic biker gang (that's right), and all those other people I can't think of right now (Jack's biotic biker gang is distracting me. May have struck gold here). Yeah, people would probably die. It would be nice to have a say in that, as well, and all that. And there would still be the problem of killing all those damnable Reapers. Maybe the Crucible really is a weapon or something and the star child (which is obviously an attempt to indoctrinate/mess with Shepard from the very start) was just lying about it to completely utterly **** with him. But yeah, there were plenty of situations in ME1 and 2 that felt hopeless, but we got through it somehow, and it didn't feel cheesy. So I know BioWare can do it again. They have the technology.
In regards to some of the stuff I'm hearing from "The Final Hours." It seems like those ideas that were cut were actually really good ones. I'm not one for corny, cliche, worn out plot devices. But games usually need a final boss. I really hope I don't have to list any reasons. It's just...the right thing in most cases. ESPECIALLY in a game that has such compelling and well-developed antagonists. I, personally, was expecting at least 2 boss fights in the end (TIM and Harbinger). Needless to say I felt like someone ripped my lungs out. I don't even smoke! ...often. And when I DO, I don't inhale.....cigars and pipes you see.... >.>
ANYWAYS...
Thank you for all of the great relationships, stories, characters, guns, musics, battles, emotions, dialogues, spaceships, planets, elevators, and load screens. Mass Effect is the best sci-fi/fantasy universe I have ever experienced. Better than Star Wars. Better than Star Trek. (Please don't hate. These statements are my opinion but I am declaring them as fact. Maybe this will appease the Old Machines). Of course the series exhibits features of both of those and more, but in a way that has never seemed unoriginal. In fact, it is just similar enough to invoke my love for those other worlds without getting protective of them. It's like they know exactly what works in sci-fi and used just enough to....sorry, I'm rambling. I'm just damn impressed with these games. BUT. Of course. Mass Effect deserves a better ending. I want to believe that you guys are planning something crazy. That would be awesome. But if not, please listen to us. Take our suggestions. If this was truly just because of a time-crunch or a bad judgement call...please change it. It's obvious the game wasn't meant to end this way. Perhaps a higher power intervened and allowed just enough ambiguity for the ending to be salvaged. I don't know. But MY Commander Shepard's story isn't over. He cannot-WILL not die until the Reapers are ANNIHILATED. Or he will die trying. And NO. Not like that. He will go down in a blaze of glory. Not shooting a fire extinguisher case in space.
I apologize if my thoughts seem disorganized. If they do, it's probably because my thoughts are disorganized. I've spent most of the past 30 hours (since I beat the game) reading forums and watching videos about various theories and people's takes on the endings, so my mind is all over the place. I literally can't stop checking the Mass Effect Twitter in the hope of hearing some sort of news from BioWare in regards to this whole situation. But yeah, I just wanted to participate, since they say they are reading our posts. I want to be a part of this. This game is worth coming out of my shell and expressing myself!
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Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:22
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All of the mass effect installments are far beyond my expectations!!!!! These are the only video games which I play because of the subtle philosophical and psychological narratives!!! A whole new fantasy or sci-fi world incarnated in this series, which is very fresh and genuine opposed to the old star wars and star trek franchise. I hope there will be bright future for the mass effect universe, as a new “cyber-mithology”.
But the end of Mass Effect 3 was so confused and cloudy I thought I was fallen into a virtual reality… The end of Mass Effect 2 was far more elaborated. Personally I really like the sci-fi motifs which are confusing perceptual reality, dream, or hallucination, but the whole story seems to be unfinished without real conclusions…. I am curiously waiting for the real conclusions.
But the end of Mass Effect 3 was so confused and cloudy I thought I was fallen into a virtual reality… The end of Mass Effect 2 was far more elaborated. Personally I really like the sci-fi motifs which are confusing perceptual reality, dream, or hallucination, but the whole story seems to be unfinished without real conclusions…. I am curiously waiting for the real conclusions.
#3263
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:24
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Fuzzfro wrote...
My favourite moments were
Grunt taking on all those Rachni and surviving - absolutely Badass
Going to the top of the Presidium with Garrus
Mission on Palavan
Thresha Maw taking Down Reaper
Killing Udina
Mordin Sacrificing himself whilst singing "I am the very model of a scientist salarian"
Taking down The reaper on Rannoch
Learning about the Geth Origins in the cyberworld
Liara's timecapsule
Killing Kai Leng
Talking to Garrus before final mission
Just listing those make me remember how great the game was UNTIL THE ENDING
The ending needs to be fixed there are so many plotholes (listed throughout the Forums) and there is absolutely no closure.
I want little blue children with Liara and I want to watch Tali rebuild her homeworld, I want to see Wrex hold his newborn child and I want to lie on a beach with Garrus having a drink.
^ this, EXCEPT i don't necessary need an "absolutely happy ending": in my opinion my paragon shep MUST die, the epic end for an epic Hero... Like a space-badass Leonidas!
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Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:25
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i'm with many of the fans who didn't like the ending.
that said though.
there are several scenes i really loved in the show.
When you are at the end at Rannoch and Tali takes her mask off was awesome. though i do think that would of been the key and most amazing moment to actually reveal her face ingame. alas lost opportunities.
nontheless still powerful.
I loved that you guys added a lot more banter between squad members. in Mass Effect 2 it very much felt quiet after a while. I liked how you moved the companions around whether on Normandy or on Citadel. it made it feel that much more organic of an experience.
the music was amazing as well, many great key moments.
There is a lot that i love about the game.
and i was pleasently surprised by the co-op mode, actually do really enjoy it. Finally managed to get lucky and unlock the Quarians and Turians (my two favorite species in the game) and look forward to the Geth and Batarians.
I also really loved how you guys weaved the characters, the non-squadmates of the past games in and out of the story and that they were not simply turned into "i'm sorry shepherd i can't come with you" - done. You guys put a lot of effort into making each feel like they had something important to do and something that was worthwhile for them like for Jack and Jacob and several others. I cannot begin to tell you how much i appreciated that.
While this is not popular on this forum with a lot of the "fight for the love" crowds. I liked that you didn't make everyone de-facto bi. you gave each character they're own unique identities (race, religion, history, culture, attitudes, philosophy), and part of an identity is sexuality. At least how i see it. Steve Cortez and Samantha Traynor are probably easily my favorite gay and lesbian characters in games. Would of been neat if one or both were full squad members, but at least both of them play important roles. About as much as Joker does in the series as well - and we all love Joker. Prior to them i've only really liked Victoria from Fallout: New Vegas and Erika from Catherine.
hell in my current playthrough i'm romancing Steve cause i actually liked him and see how that unfolds.
First playthrough was with Tali.
so yeah while i really do hate the endings and would of really liked a more satisfying one. I like A LOT of what is going on in Mass Effect 3.
Also i am curious, those Reapers that are stomping in the background, are they ingame? or is it like a film overlay that makes a stunning effect? just curious.
There are so many lines and scenes that i loved. some particular ones that come to mind are/is:
"Cortez!!!" - Shepherd after the shuttle crashes, however Mark Meer did that it caught me and i still remember it, had this sort of authenticity one would scream for a friend or loved one.
'That was for Thane!" - killing Kei Leng
the last scene with Liara looking into the light.
Shepherd and Anderson at the end.
Emergency Induction Port
Javik - for as dark and gloom as he is, he has every right to be, it would be totally odd if he wasn't.
yeah.. a lot of people have repeated what i thought was awesome as well.
Apart from the journal that never updates, and the endings which are terrible i think, and a few nitpicky things not worth getting upset about.
Story and game was fantastic.
that said though.
there are several scenes i really loved in the show.
When you are at the end at Rannoch and Tali takes her mask off was awesome. though i do think that would of been the key and most amazing moment to actually reveal her face ingame. alas lost opportunities.
nontheless still powerful.
I loved that you guys added a lot more banter between squad members. in Mass Effect 2 it very much felt quiet after a while. I liked how you moved the companions around whether on Normandy or on Citadel. it made it feel that much more organic of an experience.
the music was amazing as well, many great key moments.
There is a lot that i love about the game.
and i was pleasently surprised by the co-op mode, actually do really enjoy it. Finally managed to get lucky and unlock the Quarians and Turians (my two favorite species in the game) and look forward to the Geth and Batarians.
I also really loved how you guys weaved the characters, the non-squadmates of the past games in and out of the story and that they were not simply turned into "i'm sorry shepherd i can't come with you" - done. You guys put a lot of effort into making each feel like they had something important to do and something that was worthwhile for them like for Jack and Jacob and several others. I cannot begin to tell you how much i appreciated that.
While this is not popular on this forum with a lot of the "fight for the love" crowds. I liked that you didn't make everyone de-facto bi. you gave each character they're own unique identities (race, religion, history, culture, attitudes, philosophy), and part of an identity is sexuality. At least how i see it. Steve Cortez and Samantha Traynor are probably easily my favorite gay and lesbian characters in games. Would of been neat if one or both were full squad members, but at least both of them play important roles. About as much as Joker does in the series as well - and we all love Joker. Prior to them i've only really liked Victoria from Fallout: New Vegas and Erika from Catherine.
hell in my current playthrough i'm romancing Steve cause i actually liked him and see how that unfolds.
First playthrough was with Tali.
so yeah while i really do hate the endings and would of really liked a more satisfying one. I like A LOT of what is going on in Mass Effect 3.
Also i am curious, those Reapers that are stomping in the background, are they ingame? or is it like a film overlay that makes a stunning effect? just curious.
There are so many lines and scenes that i loved. some particular ones that come to mind are/is:
"Cortez!!!" - Shepherd after the shuttle crashes, however Mark Meer did that it caught me and i still remember it, had this sort of authenticity one would scream for a friend or loved one.
'That was for Thane!" - killing Kei Leng
the last scene with Liara looking into the light.
Shepherd and Anderson at the end.
Emergency Induction Port
Javik - for as dark and gloom as he is, he has every right to be, it would be totally odd if he wasn't.
yeah.. a lot of people have repeated what i thought was awesome as well.
Apart from the journal that never updates, and the endings which are terrible i think, and a few nitpicky things not worth getting upset about.
Story and game was fantastic.
Modifié par NeoGuardian86, 16 mars 2012 - 09:29 .
#3265
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:26
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Well duking it out in a virtual reality would have been better. Especially as when you helped the Geth the Reaper had clear problems with the virtual Shepard laying down the law.
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Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:27
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Besides all the awesomeness mentioned earlier in the post regarding favorite moments.. i'd like to add the one where legion explains why the geth let the quarians escape..
He simply states, "We were at infancy and thus could not calculate the repercussions of wiping out an entire species."
Hell, they even explained why the ships go swoosh in space.
Someone who hasn't reached the end..
He simply states, "We were at infancy and thus could not calculate the repercussions of wiping out an entire species."
Hell, they even explained why the ships go swoosh in space.
Someone who hasn't reached the end..
#3267
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:28
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I honestly felt the most touching scene I've seen in a video game in a long time would have to be Mordin and his sacrifice at the top of the tower on the Krogan homeworld. I was tearing up and the dialogue was spot on with it's pauses and afflictions throughout the entire thing.
#3268
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:30
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EVL65R wrote...
Delpinolikespotatoes wrote...
My favourite part of the Mass Effect saga is when you have to destroy the Sol Jump Node and leave the earth isolated in order to destroy the Shivans who are a machine race which is trying to whipe out the most advanced organics in order to preserve the new ones... Oh wait no, that's just Descent Freespace a game launched by Volition in 1998.
+1 LOLOLOL
THANK YOU. I mean, why is nobody else talking about this? I can accept that the main idea of the argument goes the same way: The reapers are the Shivans, the Protheans are the Ancients, and the Terrans and the Vasudans are the advanced organics. But then I got to the end and saw that the main sacrifice (Leaving earth isolated) and the "justification" for the Shivans and the Reapers are exactly the same. Also in Freespace you get the key to destroy the Shivans from the Ancients who were the organics before you. I mean... What the ****?
#3269
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:31
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Alsuras wrote...
I'd like to know why you guys are not discussing the ending in the spoiler friendly forum, telling us that it's because not everyone has finished it yet seems kind of like BS to me. This is a forum specifically meant for spoilers, so surely anyone who hasn't finished it won't be coming in here, and if they do they'll be doing so knowing full bloody well that the ending's being as they are rubbish and unpopular will be the most talked about subject.
Did you ever hear of what "Petitio Principii " is ?
The indoctrinated Bioware scriptwriter (aka the catalyst 、the starchild、the citadel.....whatever it is) claimed that " the rEAper"- a highly evolved "synthetic life"- must to annihilate "organic life" to save "organic life" form the total annihilation which would eaxctly cause by "synthetic life" (for example,the rEAper) every ****ing 50000 years , dose that make sense at all !!??
The one want to kill us because we will all be killed by the one ?????
what kind of ****ing bullcrap is that ????????????????????????
Forgive my poor English, I'm not a native Eng speaker .
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#3270
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:31
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My favorite moment? There are too many. Over five years, three games, and hundreds (plural) of hours of play, the Mass Effect universe has touched my life in ways I never thought possible. I never thought I could be attached to a video game character, or that I would care so much about what happens in a fictional universe.
The combat, sense of urgency, being shouldered with a responsibility that nobody fully comprehends, the terrifying unstoppable Reapers... the gut-wrenching decisions about the fate of the galaxy.
Screaming at my TV: "GRUNT NO!!!! DON'T DIE, YOU CAN'T LEAVE ME IN THIS HORRIBLE GALAXY ALONE!!" and then pausing the game for a cigarette to calm down when he emerged alive, bathed in gore.
Laughing so hard I couldn't breathe, and then being brought to tears.
The touching moments I had with Liara.
After investing so much time and effort into saving the galaxy I was literally stunned for an entire day about ME3's ending. I simply didn't know what to think about it, and I figure that was probably the point. I'd have been happy with any kind of closure.
Okay, the potential ramifications of stranding the single largest military force and species from all quarters of the galaxy in Earth's solar system by annihilating the mass relays probably spells extinction for anyone who was left there... except probably the Asari... or the Krogan if they thought ahead to bring females... I cured the genophage. I can handle that some kind of space-magic allowed the destruction of the Mass Relays to not... you know, annihilate all life in the surrounding areas like destroying that one in the Batarian system did. I even kind of expected Shepard to die, even though part of me would have been happy with "And the Reapers were defeated, and Shepard made litters of blue babies with Liara."
What really didn't sit well with me was that all the choices I made: ending wars, settling centuries old feuds, curing the genophage, uniting the GALAXY ultimately had no impact on the ending. I'm faced with the choice of controlling the Reapers and dying... merging all synthetics and organics and dying... or destroying all synthetic life and possibly dying, oh by the way inevitably the cycle will eventually relapse if you choose this. No chance to convince the Catalyst that his ways are wrong, that a united Quarrian and Geth and Joker and EDI's romance are proof that synthetics and organics can coexist... no Option 4: invite Reapers to tea, purple beam, mass relays and galactic society intact, shockwaves from exploding relays don't inflict horrendous casualties all over the galaxy, by the way everyone is not stranded wherever they are whatever they are doing without the instantaneous mass transit that made galactic travel plausible. Oh and I can guess, but WTF happened to the millions of inhabitants of the citidel? Were they harvested before I blew them to smithereens? ME3 was supposed to bring closure to the series... and now I'm left with more questions than answers. I'm in favor of letting imagination fill the blanks... but you left some pretty g****mn big blanks to fill with no real plausible answers.
The combat, sense of urgency, being shouldered with a responsibility that nobody fully comprehends, the terrifying unstoppable Reapers... the gut-wrenching decisions about the fate of the galaxy.
Screaming at my TV: "GRUNT NO!!!! DON'T DIE, YOU CAN'T LEAVE ME IN THIS HORRIBLE GALAXY ALONE!!" and then pausing the game for a cigarette to calm down when he emerged alive, bathed in gore.
Laughing so hard I couldn't breathe, and then being brought to tears.
The touching moments I had with Liara.
After investing so much time and effort into saving the galaxy I was literally stunned for an entire day about ME3's ending. I simply didn't know what to think about it, and I figure that was probably the point. I'd have been happy with any kind of closure.
Okay, the potential ramifications of stranding the single largest military force and species from all quarters of the galaxy in Earth's solar system by annihilating the mass relays probably spells extinction for anyone who was left there... except probably the Asari... or the Krogan if they thought ahead to bring females... I cured the genophage. I can handle that some kind of space-magic allowed the destruction of the Mass Relays to not... you know, annihilate all life in the surrounding areas like destroying that one in the Batarian system did. I even kind of expected Shepard to die, even though part of me would have been happy with "And the Reapers were defeated, and Shepard made litters of blue babies with Liara."
What really didn't sit well with me was that all the choices I made: ending wars, settling centuries old feuds, curing the genophage, uniting the GALAXY ultimately had no impact on the ending. I'm faced with the choice of controlling the Reapers and dying... merging all synthetics and organics and dying... or destroying all synthetic life and possibly dying, oh by the way inevitably the cycle will eventually relapse if you choose this. No chance to convince the Catalyst that his ways are wrong, that a united Quarrian and Geth and Joker and EDI's romance are proof that synthetics and organics can coexist... no Option 4: invite Reapers to tea, purple beam, mass relays and galactic society intact, shockwaves from exploding relays don't inflict horrendous casualties all over the galaxy, by the way everyone is not stranded wherever they are whatever they are doing without the instantaneous mass transit that made galactic travel plausible. Oh and I can guess, but WTF happened to the millions of inhabitants of the citidel? Were they harvested before I blew them to smithereens? ME3 was supposed to bring closure to the series... and now I'm left with more questions than answers. I'm in favor of letting imagination fill the blanks... but you left some pretty g****mn big blanks to fill with no real plausible answers.
#3271
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:32
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Buddy_88 wrote...
To conclude, I would just like to tell those on here ranting about not paying for DLC and that Bioware screwed us, lets be honest, if they offered an additional "Positive" ending as a $10 DLC you know you would pay.
I couldn't disagree with you more. I paid $80 for a complete game, not a half-baked impersonation of a game. Remember the original NWN? Would you have paid an extra $10 if Bioware had packaged the battle with Morag as a DLC? Would you have paid extra to download each chapter as a separate package? That's what you seem to be claiming regarding ME3's lack of ending.
Quite frankly, I think I got screwed by EA, and that's why I'm angry. I expected three games' worth of choices, decisions, and actions to lead up to a coherent resolution, one that was consistent with the ME universe and with the choices you made in the game. Instead, what I got was the equivalent of chopping the last half-hour off of "Return of the Jedi" and replacing it with the light show from "2001: A Space Odyssey", without so much as a segue from one to the other. I don't care if I get a "happy" ending, as long as I get a COHERENT ending - one that reflects the Mass Effect universe, its lore, its history, and the actions taken by the characters involved in the story. Space Jesus DOES NOT QUALIFY.
#3272
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:33
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Michael177 wrote...
Favourite Moment..... hmm... Well I have to pick two.
1. Finding out that the prothean's were actually asses (CE DLC)
2. Reuniting will my old squaddies(Especially Thane's on a certain citadel priority) Even though it made me sad
I actually loved that twist about the Protheans.
but i always like that sort of twist because we always - even now in our own cultures - we tend to color the past as being better then what it really was or worse than it really was.
#3273
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:35
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Mr.Priestly, you're assuming gamers are rational and mature. Unfortunately, most of them (us) are not. I for one am very grateful for the wonderful stories you guys told in the ME universe. And I also have a different interpretation of the ending(s) than most people here. If what I think about it is true, then I can only applaud you're clever and adventurous gamble on it.
Keep up the good work.
Keep up the good work.
#3274
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:37
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I watched Tuchanka endings - different outcomes on YouTube today... This so great, but I can't bring myself to play again... it has no sence bcs of the ending...
I just more angry and disapointed day after day. The longer I think about that, the feelings just growing...
How it is possible to do some part so good, and the most important part so crappy?
I just can't belive that.
And the silence... not helping.
I hope they not make the suicide and make the statement like "... ending is good and final and we do not do anything about it...''
I just more angry and disapointed day after day. The longer I think about that, the feelings just growing...
How it is possible to do some part so good, and the most important part so crappy?
I just can't belive that.
And the silence... not helping.
I hope they not make the suicide and make the statement like "... ending is good and final and we do not do anything about it...''
#3275
Posté 16 mars 2012 - 09:38
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What I liked abou the other two games was that I had to work really hard to get saren to in the end see sense, then we have a chance to have our entire team live at the end of ME2, but ME3 seams like no matter how hard I work I cant change a damm thing at the end...
