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[TheRevanchist]

TheRealMithril wrote...

SonosI wrote...

Mikko182 wrote...

BioWare, please change the ending. I still have faith in you.

BioWare please DONT change the ending. I still have faith in you.

I agree, don't. Either add to it, or remove it entirely.

Right...remove it and replace it with something better...

[europe2champion]

Jim Darksworn wrote...

Any positive things i can say about this title are weighed down by what you did at the end of the game. I cant bring myself to play it again, you made me that upset. I cried, maybe I have issues if a form of entertainment made me that upset. Doesnt that show how well crafted the series was up to this point though?

I love this universe and all the wonderful stories and charecters you introduced. I felt connected to them in a way that no game has ever made me feel before.

Commander Shepard was a wonderful hero or anti hero depending on your choices. He was a wet blanket in those final moments.

You made every choice, every relationship, meaningless. People are buying into ill concieved fanfiction and theorys about reaper indoctrination because they hate your ending THAT much.

The fact that you did this just so the ending was "memorable" is a betrayal of the highest order. If you wanted it to be remembered that you should have embraced the series most long running concept. CHOICE!

I'm under no illusions that you are going to fix this and give us more endings. You have our money and these days thats all that matters to you. I prefer to remember Bioware in its days associated with Interplay. "BY GAMERS FOR GAMERS!"

I've played and loved almost every game Bioware have ever made. But recent history has taught me that you simply cannot be trusted anymore.

You are completely right about everything, about ending making everything meaningless, that there should have been more choices than what color of explosion you want, and even that BW used to make good stuff, I have also played many of their games and it makes me think why have they recently become like this? Maybe I'ts about influence from EA after they bought BW. (like the reason would matter anyway)

[TheRevanchist]

As for my favorite moment Mr Priestly? idk...hasn't happened yet...because you haven't let me experience it yet. it will be Shepard chillin on the beach with the whole gang stareing at the Reaper corpses sticking out of the ocean.

[Zin]

We can change it to this ending

http://www.nerdzcomic.com/?id=10

[Gashie]

Bioware could not have NOT anticipated these reactions to a large degree. It's part and parcel of running a successful business. Here's to hoping they've got a nice trump card waiting to be played up their sleeves.

As for favourite moments.... too many across ME1, 2 and 3 so far (taking my time with it in SP, having too much fun in multiplayer).

But I do remember smiling like an idiot to myself and meeting Wrex again in ME2 and he exclaimed, "Sheparddd!", "Shepard! My friend!". Amidst the overall gloomy state of the galaxy, the use of that one word in that tone perfectly encapsulates the respect between comrades who've been through some trying time together.

[whitey4444]

I thought the game itself was constructed quite well. I don't know how it played to a new player, but to players that were incorporating saves from ME1 (face import aside) it ticked most of the boxes. While some of the moments were cheesy, they were in the first two games as well, and they fit the game. And there were some really good moments as well, that really made the characters and their interactions seem more real. The shooting mechanics improved for the most part as well.

The ending however, made the whole series feel futile to me. A lot of people have covered the reasons why in very good detail and I don't want to repeat what they said (game front 5 reasons article particularly). It was confusing, didn't explain any of what went on, provided no real choice in the ending, had no relationship to nearly everything that went on before it, and made me feel like the whole game was a complete and utter waste of time. I don't want it fixed or changed, that was the game you wrote and that's what we got. I just want you to know that I thought the ending (singular) sucked - A LOT.

For the record, I wasn't really looking for any particular type of ending, except a proper ending. Not a DLC ending, or a reworked ending, or a mysterious ending promising a sequel, just a conclusion that made some sense.

Some comments attributed to one of the devs in articles recently indicate that they wanted something that would be talked about. Well they have succeeded, but in my opinion in a very contrived and negative way.

[DoctorCrowtgamer]

JulienJaden wrote...

iamthedave3 wrote...

EvilTreeEntertainment wrote...
A pointer to most people on here:
True heroes die.

Frodo didn't. In fact, almost nobody in Lord of the Rings died. Are they lesser heroes because they had the gall to survive?

Also: Mass Effect is about CHOICES. That is what makes it unique. "Shepard has to... *something*" does not exist the way it does for other games. Not even true heroes have to die. And Shepard certainly doesn't have to, IF the game stays true to what it's all about. If we want him to die, he will. But if we choose an alternative that may cost many lives or if we did things so perfectly that the Catalyst sees its errors (i.e. max renegade or paragon), then he won't die, because that's how we played and that's what the series is about. Choices and their consequences, their up- and downsides, that is the key-element of Mass Effect that was thrown out the window after Harbinger's death ray.
And frankly, if you don't see just how important that is and just how grave a mistake it would be to leave the endings as they are, you aren't as invested in the game as we are; we, who would have wanted to play it over and over again, to see how our decisions would shape and affect the future of the galaxy.

Yeah that hit the nail on the head.  i can't understand why the 10% or so of people who liked the ending seem to have a problem with us.  We are not asking to have their favorite ending done away with all we want are the choices we were told would be there and where the reason we got the game in the first place.

What was the point of importing my save file from the last two games when it has 0 effect on the ending?  I should have just waited for ME3 and not bought the last two games or any of the DLC for ME2.

[SonosI]

kylecouch wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

SonosI wrote...

Mikko182 wrote...

BioWare, please change the ending. I still have faith in you.

BioWare please DONT change the ending. I still have faith in you.

I agree, don't. Either add to it, or remove it entirely.

Right...remove it and replace it with something better...

No, leave well enough alone.
the ending was awesome - not predictable.
Props BioWare - ignore the haters.

[ChristianTh]

Well Mr. Priestly,

(warning, may contain rant in the first part)
your are listening. Now. After the hired guns at ign and other press threw **** at us, calling us whiners and one of your team said: These cherityevent is childish behaviour. Well gladly this one is a grown up man. After getting three responses on forbes...
(/sarcasm off)
(/rant off)

The Ending is the part where all of your storie makes sense or not. Where all your decissions show their influence or not.
We made decissions all over the three games, some are minor like these asariscientist from Virmiree in ME1 that you see again in ME2 at Okeer.
ME3 was the completest thing in Terms of Storytelling with disconnecting the reputation partwise from paragon and renegadechoices. So that you can act more like you wan' t or feel the situation.
The teamdiscussions are great either, also that I imagine that there is a lot of atmosphere lost without jarvik.
The complete Scene on Rannoch where Legion is going to upload these upgrades is great, especially after Tali imagens about building a house und pleases you to stop it. That is one of the toughest decission in the entire game.
Then the scene where you can let go down your rage on that quarian admiral, well, I would have loved the oppurtunity to tell him that he destroyed a battleship we needed in that fight, bevor you can punch him.
These complete ardat-yakshi-scene was also great.

Then the scene with Liara and Ashley on Mars, why the hell is Ashley scanning these artefacts while Liara talks about them? Are you kidding?
All this crewtalk and crewmeeting is great. especialy these talk between garrus and jarvik at the casino and garrus and james.

But hey, the ending feels a little rushed. I never got any connection to that kid and why the hell can' t I ask that spacekid anything? It feels like you are left with 3 choices but these choices differ only in their color. I won' t asume why, but it feels strange to see the same videosequenz with different colors and some random quadmates and your LI hopp onto a planet you never haven seen before without any emotion on your LIs face. And then the game is over, credits, video, textbox, reentry bevore the cerberusinvasion.
What the hell?
Where do my choices matter? Where does it matter that I made peace between krogans and turians? Where does it matter that Thane rescued the salarian councelor? Wehre does it matter that I brought peace to quarian and geth? Only in my warassets and a short video where the quarians report in? and the geth only get a simple line from joker?
And what happend to my squad and all the fleets in the SOL-System? Who has survived? Who has a chance to survive? What happend do they think? How much have survived?
After the "take back earth"-trailer I hoped for some impressive cutscene while the earth is taken back, not only 2 soldiers getting devasted or raise thier weapons. Well, also seeing your LI beeing devasted by shepards death.
An reaction from Khalee Sanders, Andersons LI. Why is Shepards armor destroyed and the squadmate next to me doesn' t even have a scratch when hopping out the normandy.
Why can Shepard live on top of the citadell without a spacesuite?

[Zin]

SonosI wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

SonosI wrote...

Mikko182 wrote...

BioWare, please change the ending. I still have faith in you.

BioWare please DONT change the ending. I still have faith in you.

I agree, don't. Either add to it, or remove it entirely.

Right...remove it and replace it with something better...

No, leave well enough alone.
the ending was awesome - not predictable.
Props BioWare - ignore the haters.

No. Fix the ending. The 10% are wusses who don't care or are too lazy to demand better things in life.


Also, even Bioware is telling them now the current ending sucks because the DLC "The truth" is coming out. Which sort of proves that the current ending is too stupid to leave as it is.

[TheRealMithril]

SonosI wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

SonosI wrote...

Mikko182 wrote...

BioWare, please change the ending. I still have faith in you.

BioWare please DONT change the ending. I still have faith in you.

I agree, don't. Either add to it, or remove it entirely.

Right...remove it and replace it with something better...

No, leave well enough alone.
the ending was awesome - not predictable.
Props BioWare - ignore the haters.

We're not haters. We love the series. 99.99% is stellar. But we still want an ending. I don't know what ending you refer to. The game doesn't have an ending.

[SonosI]

Zin wrote...

SonosI wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

SonosI wrote...

Mikko182 wrote...

BioWare, please change the ending. I still have faith in you.

BioWare please DONT change the ending. I still have faith in you.

I agree, don't. Either add to it, or remove it entirely.

Right...remove it and replace it with something better...

No, leave well enough alone.
the ending was awesome - not predictable.
Props BioWare - ignore the haters.

No. Fix the ending. The 10% are wusses who don't care or are too lazy to demand better things in life.


Also, even Bioware is telling them now the current ending sucks because the DLC "The truth" is coming out. Which sort of proves that the current ending is too stupid to leave as it is.

really, Don't fix the ending - i loved it, and by adding more to the game it takes away from the fact i enjoyed the ending.

[Piarath]

TheRealMithril wrote...

SonosI wrote...

Mikko182 wrote...

BioWare, please change the ending. I still have faith in you.

BioWare please DONT change the ending. I still have faith in you.

I agree, don't. Either add to it, or remove it entirely.

And by add to it we mean moving past us to give us ACTUAL, differing endings, effected and taking into consideration our choices, and offer us closure rather then "lots of speculation from everyone!" Seriously. You said you WOULDN'T end it that way and then you do.

[the.ents.root]

SonosI wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

SonosI wrote...

Mikko182 wrote...

BioWare, please change the ending. I still have faith in you.

BioWare please DONT change the ending. I still have faith in you.

I agree, don't. Either add to it, or remove it entirely.

Right...remove it and replace it with something better...

No, leave well enough alone.
the ending was awesome - not predictable.
Props BioWare - ignore the haters.

Just because it was unpredictable it does not to have be good. If the god child AI had given shepard Exkalibur and he rode on a pegasus to battle and slayed every reaper on his flying horse with his sword that would have been unpredictable too. And guess what? It would have made as much sense as a strange god child from plot hole heaven!

[Baramon]

Glad you're listening, Chris.  I can't tell you how much that means to a fan of a video game series and what it does to bolster my image of software developers in general.

While the ending wasn't the worst scenario I could think of, it still felt lacking and certainly wasn't what I expected from doing the right things the entire time and being left with not only a disjointed, illogical plot-based set of factors (see others' post about plot holes, how there's no way your crew would abandon you, etc.), but there was no good, rewarding ending. I just don't hold with the "the hero has to die" mentality you guys decided to go with.

Of the 3 possible endings allowed in the game (not sure where 16 came from; doesn't matter anyway), I felt like all 3 were a letdown.  You guys got it right in ME2, and that brings me to my favorite moment in Mass Effect history:  the build-up and resolution of ME2...that was the type of ending I wanted in 3, but it came in 2. The whole desperate flight to the collector base, the assault on the ship, the way you could lose squadmates depending on your progress and loyalty, and stuff, that was how I wanted 3 to end. Not with the (dare I say) lame "choices" allowed in 3. There were hundreds of 'really memorable moments' in the entire series, but I will forever remember ME3 as having a disappointing let-down ending if you guys decide to leave it like it is. I don't think you guys did the series justice by ending it the way you did, and I hope you decide to amend it somehow.

At least allow a happy ending for those of us who like that type.  At the very least, an option where everyone is gathered around (like in ME2) where they're discussing what they did, their moments together, how they kicked some reaper ass and drove them away from Earth...that's what I spent 150 hours trying to accomplish.

98% of the game was stellar...best game series I think I've ever played.  But that last 2% where we're given some really bad "choices"...not so good.  Not the worst ending I can conceive, but definitely not what I wanted.

Modifié par Baramon, 16 mars 2012 - 11:58 .

[Zin]

SonosI wrote...

Zin wrote...

SonosI wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

SonosI wrote...

Mikko182 wrote...

BioWare, please change the ending. I still have faith in you.

BioWare please DONT change the ending. I still have faith in you.

I agree, don't. Either add to it, or remove it entirely.

Right...remove it and replace it with something better...

No, leave well enough alone.
the ending was awesome - not predictable.
Props BioWare - ignore the haters.

No. Fix the ending. The 10% are wusses who don't care or are too lazy to demand better things in life.


Also, even Bioware is telling them now the current ending sucks because the DLC "The truth" is coming out. Which sort of proves that the current ending is too stupid to leave as it is.

really, Don't fix the ending - i loved it, and by adding more to the game it takes away from the fact i enjoyed the ending.

Bioware says that's not the real ending. You're happy with an unfinished ending. Good. Go away and pretend the DLC never happened.

[Irrelevant Gamer]

I might stand nearly alone in this forum...but I was pretty satisfied with my ending. The way I see it, I made the tough calls and hard decisions. I made my wine...now it's time to drink it! And it tastes pretty good! That being said, I'm very curious as to what BioWare is planing to do with this forum. No other gaming company listens to its fans like this! Hell, I'm sure no other company in the world listens to their consumers like this! Keep up the good work BioWare!

[SonosI]

Zin wrote...

SonosI wrote...

Zin wrote...

SonosI wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

SonosI wrote...

Mikko182 wrote...

BioWare, please change the ending. I still have faith in you.

BioWare please DONT change the ending. I still have faith in you.

I agree, don't. Either add to it, or remove it entirely.

Right...remove it and replace it with something better...

No, leave well enough alone.
the ending was awesome - not predictable.
Props BioWare - ignore the haters.

No. Fix the ending. The 10% are wusses who don't care or are too lazy to demand better things in life.


Also, even Bioware is telling them now the current ending sucks because the DLC "The truth" is coming out. Which sort of proves that the current ending is too stupid to leave as it is.

really, Don't fix the ending - i loved it, and by adding more to the game it takes away from the fact i enjoyed the ending.

Bioware says that's not the real ending. You're happy with an unfinished ending. Good. Go away and pretend the DLC never happened.

Where exactly have they said that then?

[pencilboom]

this whole game is tremendously piece of art mixed with pure awesomeness. so many emotional moments. made me cry, made me mad ( I felt I really wanted to kill Kai Leng and rip his body apart when he killed Thane ) and a lot more. Your game, is AWESOME! No kidding. Except the ending though. I felt really crushed by the ending, until I read some of the ending theories here on the forum. Some of them really makes sense. And actually that gave me hope that you guys won't let me down!

[SonosI]

abarnes1203 wrote...

I might stand nearly alone in this forum...but I was pretty satisfied with my ending. The way I see it, I made the tough calls and hard decisions. I made my wine...now it's time to drink it! And it tastes pretty good! That being said, I'm very curious as to what BioWare is planing to do with this forum. No other gaming company listens to its fans like this! Hell, I'm sure no other company in the world listens to their consumers like this! Keep up the good work BioWare!

I'm with you buddy!

Modifié par SonosI, 16 mars 2012 - 11:59 .

[Peranor]

SonosI wrote...

Zin wrote...

SonosI wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

TheRealMithril wrote...

SonosI wrote...

Mikko182 wrote...

BioWare, please change the ending. I still have faith in you.

BioWare please DONT change the ending. I still have faith in you.

I agree, don't. Either add to it, or remove it entirely.

Right...remove it and replace it with something better...

No, leave well enough alone.
the ending was awesome - not predictable.
Props BioWare - ignore the haters.

No. Fix the ending. The 10% are wusses who don't care or are too lazy to demand better things in life.


Also, even Bioware is telling them now the current ending sucks because the DLC "The truth" is coming out. Which sort of proves that the current ending is too stupid to leave as it is.

really, Don't fix the ending - i loved it, and by adding more to the game it takes away from the fact i enjoyed the ending.

Where is this "ending" people keep referring to?

[Prequns X]

i loved most of the game, but i feel that charater's should be more avaible.
not to mention that the reapers accidently createde another rachni abomnation! that sucks! if you didnt import from the 1 and 2 ME and savede the rachni IT SHOULDNT BE THERE! and the ending is bad as hell. i really hope that BW makes the dlc EPIC!! because the first to were AWSOME!

[Polat995]

abarnes1203 wrote...

I might stand nearly alone in this forum...but I was pretty satisfied with my ending. The way I see it, I made the tough calls and hard decisions. I made my wine...now it's time to drink it! And it tastes pretty good! That being said, I'm very curious as to what BioWare is planing to do with this forum. No other gaming company listens to its fans like this! Hell, I'm sure no other company in the world listens to their consumers like this! Keep up the good work BioWare!

Yeah, no other company makes cryptic statements, no other company create topic on their forum do distract people and deflect their negative reactions...

[omgBAMF]

SonosI wrote...
really, Don't fix the ending - i loved it, and by adding more to the game it takes away from the fact i enjoyed the ending.

I'm going to assume that your Shep doesn't care about his squadmates or got every one of them killed at some point during the trilogy.  That would be the only logical explanation as to why someone wouldn't care about what happens to them afterwards. Shepard sacrificing himself is fine, but to completely ignore the others in the aftermath is just depressing (or lazy).

Something as simple as a cut scene showing your LI helping to rebuild on Earth or their home planet and then stopping to look longingly at a pic of Shep... only to be interrupted by a child's laugh as he/she comes running into the house would be great for closure (ofc, this would only truly work if you played as manshep).  The point is that you would see that all of your sacrifces meant something to those that you loved and those that loved you. 

The only true closure we get is if you choose synth/control and see Joker and EDI being able to stay together.  Everyone else in the story is left to imagination, which isn't "closure"

Modifié par omgBAMF, 16 mars 2012 - 12:03 .