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[SonosI]

Alsuras wrote...

What happened to Sam Gamgee?

After the War of the Ring, Sam married Rose "Rosie" Cotton and moved to Bag End with Frodo. Sam and Rosie had thirteen children: Elanor the Fair, Frodo, Rose, Merry, Pippin, Goldilocks, Hamfast, Daisy, Primrose, Bilbo, Ruby, Robin, and Tolman (Tom). Sam was elected Mayor of the Shire for seven consecutive seven-year terms and came to be known as Samwise Gardner.
After Sam and Rose's first child was born it was revealed that Frodo would leave Middle-earth, along with Bilbo (Sam's old hero), Gandalf and most of the remaining High Elves (Wood Elves had no part of this exodus from Middle-Earth), for the Undying Lands. Before Frodo left, he gave the estate of Bag End to Sam, as well as the Red Book of Westmarch for Sam to continue, hinting that Sam might also be allowed to travel into the West eventually.
After the death of his wife in the year 62 of the Fourth Age (Shire Reckoning 1482), Sam entrusted the Red Book to Elanor and left the Shire at the age of 102. He was not seen again in Middle-earth, but Elanor and her descendants preserved the tradition that he went to the Grey Havens and sailed into the West. As the last of the Ring-bearers, he was entitled to sail across the Sea and be reunited with Frodo in the Undying Lands.

Touche.

[joiner87]

I have never felt more invested in a game then this trio, just want a fitting ending to a fitting triligy

[TheBigM145]

europe2champion wrote...

Jim Darksworn wrote...

Any positive things i can say about this title are weighed down by what you did at the end of the game. I cant bring myself to play it again, you made me that upset. I cried, maybe I have issues if a form of entertainment made me that upset. Doesnt that show how well crafted the series was up to this point though?

I love this universe and all the wonderful stories and charecters you introduced. I felt connected to them in a way that no game has ever made me feel before.

Commander Shepard was a wonderful hero or anti hero depending on your choices. He was a wet blanket in those final moments.

You made every choice, every relationship, meaningless. People are buying into ill concieved fanfiction and theorys about reaper indoctrination because they hate your ending THAT much.

The fact that you did this just so the ending was "memorable" is a betrayal of the highest order. If you wanted it to be remembered that you should have embraced the series most long running concept. CHOICE!

I'm under no illusions that you are going to fix this and give us more endings. You have our money and these days thats all that matters to you. I prefer to remember Bioware in its days associated with Interplay. "BY GAMERS FOR GAMERS!"

I've played and loved almost every game Bioware have ever made. But recent history has taught me that you simply cannot be trusted anymore.

You are completely right about everything, about ending making everything meaningless, that there should have been more choices than what color of explosion you want, and even that BW used to make good stuff, I have also played many of their games and it makes me think why have they recently become like this? Maybe I'ts about influence from EA after they bought BW. (like the reason would matter anyway)

Decided to borrow this one since it expresses my views perfectly and this way I don't have to type it out for an hour. To me an ending to a triology is supposed to tie up all the plot threads, ok maybe not all of them, to some degree. Now that was done to some degree if you consider the "ending" everything from hitting Cerberus on but there were still alot of questions. ALOT of questions. I mean shoot, if  the relays go up while what like half the warships in the galaxy are sitting in the Sol system and they can't leave...give me something here .

But yeah, for me I just felt there was really no sense of win with any of the endings.  What's more worrisome to me is that this is the second EA "wrap up" game where the ending was quite lacking. After C&C 4's very "huh?" ending and this, my trust is being eroded here. Please oh please don't do this to us for DA3 or you're going to lose me for sure. 

[pharsti]

mastercheif-117 wrote...

 Come on guys, Chris was asking for favourite moments, irregardless of the ending. The ending's jarring, but even on a single thread you guys can't look past the ending for a few moments and remember the positive qualities of ME3?

What do you expect, "we are listening" when there is obviously no feedback from the other side just seems like what it truly is, trying to avoid the krogan in the room, something akin to evasive maneuvers XD.

And besides, there are a lot of favourite scenes on ME3, i just remembered another one, when i made the connection that Jokers sister had been killed by the asari in the hospital, made me feel for Joker, and sad i couldnt come clean with him.
"Dont worry Joker, i didnt give her a gun, so she can wallow in her guilt until the Reapers kill her horribly".

And as i already said, then the ending comes, and most of those scenes become hollow.

[Spyritus]

Chris Priestly wrote...
We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening. Active discussions about the ending are more than welcome here, and the team will be reviewing it for feedback and responding when we can. Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game. In the meantime, we’d like to ask that you keep the non-spoiler areas of our forums and our social media channels spoiler free.
 
We understand there is a lot of debate on the Mass Effect 3 ending and we will be more than happy to engage in healthy discussions once more people get to experience the game.

So, we'll get answers, but no better endings? :[
And my blue children??? :'(

[Comsky159]

I just decided to let Shepard die at the steady hands of Marauder Shields.

Word is that he's the rising star of ME4.

[TheRealMithril]

How long was Shep on the Citadel? yes 8 minutes to you, but how long game time, perfectly logical they got onboard.

Yeah, while the explosion stopped for a break, having a cup of coffee and discussed the ending. While Joker went to pick all mates and scurry off through the Relay... yeah... that makes 'perfect' sense.

[Lparsons7641]

I don't mind a depressing ending. I don't

I wanted my choices to come to fruition. I would have been fine sitting in the Citadel watching to see whether I win or not. Of course the crucible had to do something, (even though I would have not included it, but I see why they did) But don't make it the magic button. If you had enough assets people work on it, make it weaken the reapers considerably. If it isn't built well? Then it misfires and does nothing.

Then your choices determine who wins, who dies, and who survives (i'm not asking for disney)

[Crypteia1]

Worst ending of all time, it needs to be fixed for free. I work in cancer therapy with terminally ill patients and took a few days off to play this game for some R&R. What a joke, work is way less depressing...

[Vergil_dgk]

SonosI wrote...

omgBAMF wrote...

SonosI wrote...

omgBAMF wrote...

SonosI wrote...
really, Don't fix the ending - i loved it, and by adding more to the game it takes away from the fact i enjoyed the ending.

I'm going to assume that your Shep doesn't care about his squadmates or got every one of them killed at some point during the trilogy.  That would be the only logical explanation as to why someone wouldn't care about what happens to them afterwards. Shepard sacrificing himself is fine, but to completely ignore the others in the aftermath is just depressing (or lazy).

Something as simple as a cut scene showing your LI helping to rebuild on Earth or their home planet and then stopping to look longingly at a pic of Shep... only to be interrupted by a child's laugh as he/she comes running into the house would be great for closure (ofc, this would only truly work if you played as manshep).  The point is that you would see that all of your sacrifces meant something to those that you loved and those that loved you. 

My shep survived, i saw my LI and fav squad mate get out the Normandy at the end - what more could i ask for?
you people are greedy.

But then what happens AFTER they land?  This is the entire point.  Their future is left to the imagination which doesn't do justice to their entire story through the 3 games.

Does it really matter?
what happened to Sam Gamgee after Frodo sailed off into the west?
what happened to Master Chief (although that is now not a good example)
what happened to the guys at the end of the Italian Job - when they are on the cliff edge?!

Everyone is grasping at straws, the series is over - and some people can't come to terms with that.

Erh - LOTR does have an epilogue saying what happens to most of the characters after the main story is over. That's probably the worst example you could have chosen to ilustrate your point. And yes; to a lot of people it does matter what happens to these characters who we have been following throught three games and a number of years. And worse: it matters that the ending feels shallow and contrived and that the player has little input during the last half hour of a series of games that were all about choice.

[Piarath]

mastercheif-117 wrote...

 Come on guys, Chris was asking for favourite moments, irregardless of the ending. The ending's jarring, but even on a single thread you guys can't look past the ending for a few moments and remember the positive qualities of ME3?

Most people have listed their favorite moments. Just that most people have also added in their discontent with the endings.

Because yes, they're that bad. They DETRACT from the favorite moments.

[Xerkysz]

Chris Priestly wrote...
 
We understand there is a lot of debate on the Mass Effect 3 ending and we will be more than happy to engage in healthy discussions once more people get to experience the game.

For all you people crying about the "No response to the endings" and how "Bad" they are...
There's the key to why you're not getting a response, and they aren't bad at all if you do a little research and are able to understand it.

[Sir Fluffykins]

soulexn7 wrote...

why not blow up the citadel since the catalyst controls the reapers and lives in it?
just saying

Wow, why didn't I think of that, that would make a great alternate Renegade ending.

In regards to that, when I first entered the Citadel I thought I was faced with the terrible horror of everyone on the Citadel being dead, but then you reach the control room and you can clearly see thousands of transport ship lights flying around.

My question is, were they Reap'd, did most escape when the arms opened or is Shepard responsible for 30 Trillion deaths?

Modifié par Sir Fluffykins, 16 mars 2012 - 12:20 .

[JamesT91]

I think bioware deserve the benefit of the doubt. they have mad e a trilogy which admittedly got worse as we went along
ME1- RPG
2-60% shooter 40% RPG
3 80% shooter 20% RPG

And i agree with most of you and am dissapointed with the endings
But overall they made a great series. and 3 has only been out (over here atleast for a week) many of us still havent had time to finish it so for all we know bioware might be waiting until the end of the month or so to give everyone a chance to finish and learn the story before bombarding us with DLC

[BigglesFlysAgain]

SonosI wrote...

omgBAMF wrote...

SonosI wrote...

omgBAMF wrote...

SonosI wrote...
really, Don't fix the ending - i loved it, and by adding more to the game it takes away from the fact i enjoyed the ending.

I'm going to assume that your Shep doesn't care about his squadmates or got every one of them killed at some point during the trilogy.  That would be the only logical explanation as to why someone wouldn't care about what happens to them afterwards. Shepard sacrificing himself is fine, but to completely ignore the others in the aftermath is just depressing (or lazy).

Something as simple as a cut scene showing your LI helping to rebuild on Earth or their home planet and then stopping to look longingly at a pic of Shep... only to be interrupted by a child's laugh as he/she comes running into the house would be great for closure (ofc, this would only truly work if you played as manshep).  The point is that you would see that all of your sacrifces meant something to those that you loved and those that loved you. 

My shep survived, i saw my LI and fav squad mate get out the Normandy at the end - what more could i ask for?
you people are greedy.

But then what happens AFTER they land?  This is the entire point.  Their future is left to the imagination which doesn't do justice to their entire story through the 3 games.

Does it really matter?
what happened to Sam Gamgee after Frodo sailed off into the west?
what happened to Master Chief (although that is now not a good example)
what happened to the guys at the end of the Italian Job - when they are on the cliff edge?!

Everyone is grasping at straws, the series is over - and some people can't come to terms with that.

Surely Sam retired happily to live out his life in the shire? Why can't we at least have somthing like that for squadmembers?
The italian job was meant to have a sequel that never materialised, it was not an artistic decison -Cain revealed what they would have done a few years ago, lets hope bioware don't take 40 years or somthing.

As you said M chief a bad example, the war over, elites return home, flood destroyed, master chiefs only possible LI is cortana who he is with anyway, and supporting characters like the Sgt fully written out.

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 16 mars 2012 - 12:21 .

[die-yng]

omgBAMF wrote...

SonosI wrote...
really, Don't fix the ending - i loved it, and by adding more to the game it takes away from the fact i enjoyed the ending.

I'm going to assume that your Shep doesn't care about his squadmates or got every one of them killed at some point during the trilogy.  That would be the only logical explanation as to why someone wouldn't care about what happens to them afterwards. Shepard sacrificing himself is fine, but to completely ignore the others in the aftermath is just depressing (or lazy).

Something as simple as a cut scene showing your LI helping to rebuild on Earth or their home planet and then stopping to look longingly at a pic of Shep... only to be interrupted by a child's laugh as he/she comes running into the house would be great for closure (ofc, this would only truly work if you played as manshep).  The point is that you would see that all of your sacrifces meant something to those that you loved and those that loved you. 

The only true closure we get is if you choose synth/control and see Joker and EDI being able to stay together.  Everyone else in the story is left to imagination, which isn't "closure"

Ahem, FemShep + Liara.... Little blue children... Sound any bells?

[TheRealMithril]

Xerkysz wrote...


For all you people crying about the "No response to the endings" and how "Bad" they are...
There's the key to why you're not getting a response, and they aren't bad at all if you do a little research and are able to understand it.

Like I told you yesterday: It can be the best ending in the history of mankind, but if nobody gets it then it is useless.

Your point is really not a valid argument.

[Daverid]

The Ending has to be fake... It's completely and thoroughly proven by 1 Major Connecting Point.

Joker.

Everything that happens in that final cutscene to do with Joker makes the Ending Completely Implausible. Forget the Mass Relays Exploding .. Forget everyone being stranded In Sol and Dying ..

You don't even need to that Far .. It's very Simple.

A. Squadmates are Dead on the Ground when you get up after being hit by the Laser. Then they have the same chance of being in the final scene with Joker, Alive. Either Major Continuity mistake by Bioware or Ending is BS ... The Latter most likely.

B. Joker Would not give up on Shepard. Ever. Even if he saw Shepard Death with his own Eyes. Actually he would be more likely to Turn the Normandy Around and Charge Headlong into Harbinger with Hacket yelling, "Joker, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING". Instead he apparently retreats to the Mass Relay? Yea Bull****. That Just wouldnt' happen, If he thought Shepard was dead and that meant everyone was doomed anyway, he would go all out Crazy, NEVER would he retreat.

Boom. There you go. Endings are full of BS based of 2 very Simple Points. There are no IF's .. No But's ... No nothing. Those 2 points ALONE are enough to realise that the Endings are either Fake. Or Bioware, Similar to George Lucas actually, didn't go back and replay the first 2 games and had 0 understanding of their own Characters.

[omgBAMF]

die-yng wrote...

omgBAMF wrote...

SonosI wrote...
really, Don't fix the ending - i loved it, and by adding more to the game it takes away from the fact i enjoyed the ending.

I'm going to assume that your Shep doesn't care about his squadmates or got every one of them killed at some point during the trilogy.  That would be the only logical explanation as to why someone wouldn't care about what happens to them afterwards. Shepard sacrificing himself is fine, but to completely ignore the others in the aftermath is just depressing (or lazy).

Something as simple as a cut scene showing your LI helping to rebuild on Earth or their home planet and then stopping to look longingly at a pic of Shep... only to be interrupted by a child's laugh as he/she comes running into the house would be great for closure (ofc, this would only truly work if you played as manshep).  The point is that you would see that all of your sacrifces meant something to those that you loved and those that loved you. 

The only true closure we get is if you choose synth/control and see Joker and EDI being able to stay together.  Everyone else in the story is left to imagination, which isn't "closure"

Ahem, FemShep + Liara.... Little blue children... Sound any bells?

point taken and thank you.

[Phobius9]

mastercheif-117 wrote...

 Come on guys, Chris was asking for favourite moments, irregardless of the ending. The ending's jarring, but even on a single thread you guys can't look past the ending for a few moments and remember the positive qualities of ME3?

Oooh, ooh, I thought of another one! Admiral Hakket's speech to the fleets.Stiring stuff!

Oh, and the Elcor ambassador when you complete his mission to rescue the refugees!

And Garrus and Vega telling stories on the Normandy!

"That was a joke"

Drunk Ashley

"They used to eat flies"

"Badassfully: Hey man, seriously, that's my sister"

Full refund for refund guy!

Thresher Maw Vs Reaper rumble

"I suppose I did just write your name in the stars"

"I think I've checked my equipment six times already" "You have checked your equipment a total of seven times Ms T'Soni" "Stop me if I go for eight"

"I'm proud of you"

The more I think about the game, the more moments crop up! So many!

[Sir Fluffykins]

die-yng wrote...

omgBAMF wrote...

SonosI wrote...
really, Don't fix the ending - i loved it, and by adding more to the game it takes away from the fact i enjoyed the ending.

I'm going to assume that your Shep doesn't care about his squadmates or got every one of them killed at some point during the trilogy.  That would be the only logical explanation as to why someone wouldn't care about what happens to them afterwards. Shepard sacrificing himself is fine, but to completely ignore the others in the aftermath is just depressing (or lazy).

Something as simple as a cut scene showing your LI helping to rebuild on Earth or their home planet and then stopping to look longingly at a pic of Shep... only to be interrupted by a child's laugh as he/she comes running into the house would be great for closure (ofc, this would only truly work if you played as manshep).  The point is that you would see that all of your sacrifces meant something to those that you loved and those that loved you. 

The only true closure we get is if you choose synth/control and see Joker and EDI being able to stay together.  Everyone else in the story is left to imagination, which isn't "closure"

Ahem, FemShep + Liara.... Little blue children... Sound any bells?

I'd like to point out that Lord of the Rings (the books at least) had a MASSIVE epilogue saying what happened to most of them, their kids, their family trees. So don't use LOTR as a way to explain ME3 not having a simple text epilogue.

Favourite Moments Continued: The intro, it felt, sounded and played right and the reapers landing everywhere but at the same time, not feeling like I was being rushed. Yes, that's another thing, the entire game (except ending) felt perfectly paced. After all, as said in previous games, it takes time for the Reapers to reap the galaxy. 

Modifié par Sir Fluffykins, 16 mars 2012 - 12:26 .

[tmsolberg]

I wish there was more colors... I like colors...

[SilentWolfie]

My favorite moment will be when Bioware changes the ending to something conclusive and not as ridiculous as this. I will treat my ME 3 as a beta version of ME 3 that has no ending yet (which I just played everything with almost no side quests done), period. Never again shall I touch anything on ME or DA universe as a sign of boycott protest. Neither will I ever touch TOR, or their next franchise.

[Someone With Mass]

Well, BioWare, if you had listened (both to us and your own promises), we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

[Grindermonkey2]

Bioware,

I loved the games, particularly 1 and 2 which I played over and over again to see where the different options would lead. The end for 3, feels like no choice at all and after the investment you have encouraged from me, I was aiming for bringing my Shep out alive to go home to his woman. Having survived the collector base and brought his crew home, I figured anything was possible. I think there is nothing wrong with adding a another outcome or two to the end, if I am honest the one I most want to see involves Shep and at least some of his friends living, a bit of peace and harmony with the other races and the relays surviving. The current endings are such a downer, I am not sure I can bring myself to repeat play 3.

I perversely liked the deaths of Shep's old companions such as Morden and Legion etc. as it gave a sense of Sheps commitment to ending the Reaper threat. In a Galaxy wide war where you are given the hardest job, it's no wonder some of your mates die......

Finally about the end I agree with the choice Bioware made about not simply making the show down with Illusive man another battle, made a lot of sense.