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[BWGungan]

Mocchi wrote...

domonhearts wrote...

i know people are going to flip out on me,but you know what i liked the game.oh well the game didnt end like you wanted it too,so what ALOT of games dont end the way we want them too,and maybe they wanted the game to end in this way casue there is going to be a mass effect 4.now by making the ending liek it is that would make it easy to set up the stroy for the next game.and even if you dont like what im saying or say im wrong.i dont care i have played all the mass effect games from day out when mass effect 1 came out and you know what.im happy the way it eneded,did some of it confuse me,yes it did.but you know it sill had the mass effect feel to it,was it a messed up ending.yes but show me a war that ends happy good luck were all the people that died come back to life.no in war people dir.and bad things have to happen to end it

So take the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy.  The last movie, one of the final scenses?  Remember that part where Frodo and Sam were siting on the rock above the Lava and you see the giant bird swooping in to save them?  End the movie right there.  Yeap, that's Mass Effect 3's ending.  Great story huh.

I would go so far as to end it when the Tower of Mordor falls, and the earth starts caving in heading towards the humans, then right before you find out what happens, you see Sam running back to the Shire for some reason, and the credits roll.

I'd just like to remind people that LotR was based on a lot on the Great War.

Modifié par BWGungan, 17 mars 2012 - 03:13 .

[Omnike]

Bitter-sweet. It's not bitter-sweet. It's bitter with a glass of dog ****** to down it. It's outright terrible. The more they dodge, the more we lose faith.

[Eulalia Danae]

One of the biggest problems to the endings was that every single one of them was based as a "solution" to a premise that was inherently wrong. "Organics would ultimately be destroyed by synthetics, or that which we create will eventually destroy us."

In my game Shepard fought against this idea throughout, believing that peace can be gained despite differences, fear, and even a predisposed nature for violence. I put faith in the krogans that they would not repeat past mistakes, despite the fears of the Salarians, their "creators." I judged them not on what their race had done in the past, but for who they were, and what they could be.

I also found peace for the Geth and Quarians, which presents itself as the biggest counter argument to the star-child's "problem." Peace is possible, but it needs to be given a chance.

Throughout the game the theme of unity was present, particularly in regards to a paragon playthrough. In a renegade approach, there seemed to be more of an emphasis on sacrifice. The very beginning that was clear when you were asked how you would take on the reapers, and your choice of answers were "Stand together" or "Survive at all costs."

The unity theme emphasized races working together, organic and synthetic. The differences and individuality of each race/species is what made them stronger as a whole. But what did Bioware ultimately say about "Differences" like this? They cannot exist without destroying one or the other.

In order for there to be survival, one of the differing groups has to be "Destroyed," or "Subjugated." These are the obvious renegade choices. This is the sacrifice for survival.

But what about the Paragon option? Where is the option that says we can live in unity despite our differences? There is none. Bioware mistook "unity" for "uniformity." The green option forcibly takes away the differences instead of letting people learn to live with each other and make compromises, leaving it a hollow shell of an ending coated in artificial sweetener and one that still supports an argument that I see as ethically wrong.

[BWGungan]

I feel completely foolish right now for being drawn into a video game trilogy, and liking it so much that I feel this disappointed and betrayed for investing my time and money into it. It's dumb, so lesson learned. Peace, folks.

Makes you feel like you wasted the last 5 years doesn't it?

[isaacnewtonisthedeadliest]

Just want to say that I deeply love all of the Mass Effect games. From the first time I entered the Citadel I knew I was in for a wild ride. The artwork that drew me in visually, the storytelling that felt like it gave me more of a chance to grow and make decisions through my avatar of Commander Shepard and less a I'm playing as Shepard(felt like Shepard's playing me and less the other way), and the score that gave the cut scenes a life of their own. That said I'm severely disappointed with the endings and I signed up on this forum just to voice that.
Through my first play through I was trying to find a balance between being a paragon while still making sacrifices to do what it took to save Earth. I was for the cure for the Krogan Genophage for most of that story segment, until Shepard got the conference call from the Salarian Dalatrass. I sold my soul and took the deal, condemning the Krogan species for a better chance to save the Earth, and the galaxy. What made this harder was when Wrex confronted Shepard about it, and I had no choice but to put him down. My favorite squad mate from Mass Effect 1 and that's how it ended for him.
Next Shepard enters the Quarian-Geth conflict mostly on the Quarian side and grow through that story to find more sympathy with the Geth. I didn't have the paragon points to save both so I had to make a choice so I chose the created over the creators. This led to a cutscene where another of my favorite squad mates leaps off a cliff with nothing Shepard can do about it.
After all this sacrifice and the end of characters I'd come to love on my main playthrough I just hoped it was worth it but alas it wasn't so. I don't get to see what happens with the Rachni I saved, see how the Geth I evolved playout, or how the Krogan start to cope with the Genophage lie. Instead if I had done everything differently, I would have got the exact same ending but instead Big Ben does or doesn't blowup (or some small variation in between), and whatever color I chose. It just didn't feel right, the series built on choices gives no reaction to any of them. Not to mention all of the other issues I have with the last 10 minutes(apparently Jokers the fastest pilot in the galaxy and a pansy, praying it was a hallucination) but unless something is done with the ending I think I'm going to pass on any future installments in Mass Effect. I guess there's hope that they sell the rights to whoever makes Sim city and we'll get a whole game on the crew of the Normandy making a colony from dirt and ship parts. Hopefully the flora and fauna aren't poisoned (hey Jacobs dad handled it, that turned out soo well.)

[Shalaan]

I just finished the game and I am left speechless. I loved the game so much, in fact, I love the Mass Effect-series so much that I still get goosebums from hearing the theme music from the first game, to the sad piano tune in ME3. I loved how BioWare made Shepard really crack from all the things going on, that FemShep's voice kinda breaks when talking about those they have lost... I sometimes hate myself for living myself so much into video games, especially those that has a deep story and you feel you can identify yourself with the character you're playing. A few weeks before ME3 came out I had this rather weird dream where I was Shepard and everyone was literally dying around me, sort of creepy to think that when it more or less happens in the game as well and I didnt know anything about the plot or what would happen until I played the game a few days ago. I just love how much this game affects me, I feel relieved, yet sad that the story about Shepard is over. But I suppose all stories need an end.

Sure though, the ending was a little bit weird and it was hard to understand, but I had seen games with endings far worse, but I wouldnt mind seeing an "alternative" ending or just an expansion of some sort to fully explain what the hell happened. THe ending left me with so many questions, and I just wanted to know what happened afterwards (I chose to destroy the Reapers). I hope that BioWare will come up with something nice.

[Black_Acre]

I loved ME3. I also loved the ending. I'm very surprised that so many people had issues with it. Maybe gamers are just too immature to appreciate it.

[BWGungan]

Black_Acre wrote...

I loved ME3. I also loved the ending. I'm very surprised that so many people had issues with it. Maybe gamers are just too immature to appreciate it.

Appreciate what?  Having every decision you as a player ever made in all three games be tossed out the airlock in the last 10 minutes of the trilogy?

Or how about the part where you're forced to cause a galactic extinction in every ending from chain supernova mass relay explosions? 

Those endings permanently kill the IP.  It is no longer the world people fell in love with throughout the trilogy, and no amount of prequels will make you forget that you wiped everyone you were trying to save.

Yeah, we're immature... that's the problem.

Modifié par BWGungan, 17 mars 2012 - 03:27 .

[priestknight]

I truly did enjoy myself playing ME3, but how short of game it was to finish. And the endings where left to be desired. An Epilouge would be nice. Besides those complaints, masterful work! Just hope the DLC's can extend it pass the end.

[Omnike]

Black_Acre wrote...

I loved ME3. I also loved the ending. I'm very surprised that so many people had issues with it. Maybe gamers are just too immature to appreciate it.

 

[daboy042188]

quick question: do we know for sure how long shepard's conversation on the citadel was? i mean maybe once the fleets delievered the crucible they ran like a dude with his buns on fire since "hey job's done let's not get gutted by the reaper fleet"

normandy might have been in the process of retreating through the Sol relay with the rest of the fleet when the crucible fired and that was why it got dumped on planet heaven

[Dridengx]

Chris Priestly wrote...

We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening.

Awesome. My feedback is not to change a single thing. The trilogy was amazing, and I loved everything about it including the ending

[VinHikaru]

 Thanks for the reply, Chris. It's a direct response and I find that encouraging.

While I loved watching giant space battles, I think my favorite moments in ME3 were those that were purely character-driven. Modrin's sacrifice, Kai Leng's creepiness, STEVE CORTEZ'S ARC...I think that last one doesn't get enough credit. I love it, especially as a gaymer who decided to romance Cortez on my first play-through.

Next time, Kaiden!

[Darth Sagan]

Will bioware remediate the undignified ending of the mass effect series?

[domonhearts]

Mocchi wrote...

domonhearts wrote...

i know people are going to flip out on me,but you know what i liked the game.oh well the game didnt end like you wanted it too,so what ALOT of games dont end the way we want them too,and maybe they wanted the game to end in this way casue there is going to be a mass effect 4.now by making the ending liek it is that would make it easy to set up the stroy for the next game.and even if you dont like what im saying or say im wrong.i dont care i have played all the mass effect games from day out when mass effect 1 came out and you know what.im happy the way it eneded,did some of it confuse me,yes it did.but you know it sill had the mass effect feel to it,was it a messed up ending.yes but show me a war that ends happy good luck were all the people that died come back to life.no in war people dir.and bad things have to happen to end it

So take the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy.  The last movie, one of the final scenses?  Remember that part where Frodo and Sam were siting on the rock above the Lava and you see the giant bird swooping in to save them?  End the movie right there.  Yeap, that's Mass Effect 3's ending.  Great story huh.

yes cause the game had a bad ending that means the rest of the game was crap.right? yeah forget the great story until that one part.the end part didnt kill the rest of the game witch was a great story

[BWGungan]

Dridengx wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening.

Awesome. My feedback is not to change a single thing. The trilogy was amazing, and I loved everything about it including the ending

Then apparently you had no attachment to anything about the world and don't care that you can never play another Mass Effect game that takes place after ME3 because the galaxy was wiped out.

[Kyanos1a]

I loved most of the game. In fact the last forward command talks with everyone really brought out a strong emotional response in me.

However, I feel like the ending completely made me stop and wonder what everyone who worked on that was thinking. It was a moment that I asked myself if all the writers had been fired and someone was hired to tack on an ending without knowing what the ending was for. I would have loved all the work I put into the series to matter at the end but I was left with the feeling that nothing I had done made any difference.

[babachewie]

BWGungan wrote...

Mocchi wrote...

domonhearts wrote...

i know people are going to flip out on me,but you know what i liked the game.oh well the game didnt end like you wanted it too,so what ALOT of games dont end the way we want them too,and maybe they wanted the game to end in this way casue there is going to be a mass effect 4.now by making the ending liek it is that would make it easy to set up the stroy for the next game.and even if you dont like what im saying or say im wrong.i dont care i have played all the mass effect games from day out when mass effect 1 came out and you know what.im happy the way it eneded,did some of it confuse me,yes it did.but you know it sill had the mass effect feel to it,was it a messed up ending.yes but show me a war that ends happy good luck were all the people that died come back to life.no in war people dir.and bad things have to happen to end it

So take the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy.  The last movie, one of the final scenses?  Remember that part where Frodo and Sam were siting on the rock above the Lava and you see the giant bird swooping in to save them?  End the movie right there.  Yeap, that's Mass Effect 3's ending.  Great story huh.

I would go so far as to end it when the Tower of Mordor falls, and the earth starts caving in heading towards the humans, then right before you find out what happens, you see Sam running back to the Shire for some reason, and the credits roll.

I'd just like to remind people that LotR was based on a lot on the Great War.

You wanna talk plot holes. If Gandalf had access to the eagles, why didnt he just fly it to the volcano instead of that long ass walk?....Probably cause there would be no movie. Plot holes and inconsistencies can be found in everything. This is why people gotta let this ending thing go. Just enjoy the trilogy for what it was

[BWGungan]

domonhearts wrote...

Mocchi wrote...

domonhearts wrote...

i know people are going to flip out on me,but you know what i liked the game.oh well the game didnt end like you wanted it too,so what ALOT of games dont end the way we want them too,and maybe they wanted the game to end in this way casue there is going to be a mass effect 4.now by making the ending liek it is that would make it easy to set up the stroy for the next game.and even if you dont like what im saying or say im wrong.i dont care i have played all the mass effect games from day out when mass effect 1 came out and you know what.im happy the way it eneded,did some of it confuse me,yes it did.but you know it sill had the mass effect feel to it,was it a messed up ending.yes but show me a war that ends happy good luck were all the people that died come back to life.no in war people dir.and bad things have to happen to end it

So take the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy.  The last movie, one of the final scenses?  Remember that part where Frodo and Sam were siting on the rock above the Lava and you see the giant bird swooping in to save them?  End the movie right there.  Yeap, that's Mass Effect 3's ending.  Great story huh.

yes cause the game had a bad ending that means the rest of the game was crap.right? yeah forget the great story until that one part.the end part didnt kill the rest of the game witch was a great story

It completely kills any kind of replayability for the series.  No matter how you play 1 to 3.9, everything you do is ultimately futile because everyone gets the same idiotic ending.  That goes for any future prequels too.

Modifié par BWGungan, 17 mars 2012 - 03:35 .

[The_Canadian_Dragon]

Rather than go into a long-winded explanation as to why the ending was not fitting for such a great series, I'll direct you to this video so you can compare simultaneously the endings:

www.youtube.com/watch

As for what I liked about the game, that would also require a lengthy post. Like most people I thought the entire game (ending aside) was awesome, and any glitches suffered became minor when compared to joy of experiencing the game overall (minus the last ten minutes).

So one of the things I liked over the others would be the romance options - Garrus is my favorite. That date at the top of the Presidium was magical, in a way.

The only way the romance could have been improved upon was (provided you romanced two different people in ME1 and ME2) if your two LI's could have fought for your affection, before (and maybe after) you had commited to one of them. Especially if both of them were squadmates. Something... Well, something like how it was handled in Dragon Age, if say you romanced both Alistair and Zevran (only with less angsty acceptance on Alistair's part if you chose Zevran, if I recall correctly).

Its obviously a minor point, but it seemed rather... anticlimactic... unrealistic... that once romance was locked in with one, the other seemed to have nothing else to say about it. Watching a brawl between Garrus and Kaiden on some random area of the ship would have been very satisfying.

[BWGungan]

babachewie wrote...

BWGungan wrote...

Mocchi wrote...

domonhearts wrote...

i know people are going to flip out on me,but you know what i liked the game.oh well the game didnt end like you wanted it too,so what ALOT of games dont end the way we want them too,and maybe they wanted the game to end in this way casue there is going to be a mass effect 4.now by making the ending liek it is that would make it easy to set up the stroy for the next game.and even if you dont like what im saying or say im wrong.i dont care i have played all the mass effect games from day out when mass effect 1 came out and you know what.im happy the way it eneded,did some of it confuse me,yes it did.but you know it sill had the mass effect feel to it,was it a messed up ending.yes but show me a war that ends happy good luck were all the people that died come back to life.no in war people dir.and bad things have to happen to end it

So take the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy.  The last movie, one of the final scenses?  Remember that part where Frodo and Sam were siting on the rock above the Lava and you see the giant bird swooping in to save them?  End the movie right there.  Yeap, that's Mass Effect 3's ending.  Great story huh.

I would go so far as to end it when the Tower of Mordor falls, and the earth starts caving in heading towards the humans, then right before you find out what happens, you see Sam running back to the Shire for some reason, and the credits roll.

I'd just like to remind people that LotR was based on a lot on the Great War.

You wanna talk plot holes. If Gandalf had access to the eagles, why didnt he just fly it to the volcano instead of that long ass walk?....Probably cause there would be no movie. Plot holes and inconsistencies can be found in everything. This is why people gotta let this ending thing go. Just enjoy the trilogy for what it was

Probably because they would have been shot down before the Tower of Mordor fell, and the armies or Mordor were routed.  Not sure how you overlooked that blatantly obvious reason.

Modifié par BWGungan, 17 mars 2012 - 03:34 .

[Omnike]

BWGungan wrote...

domonhearts wrote...

Mocchi wrote...

domonhearts wrote...

i know people are going to flip out on me,but you know what i liked the game.oh well the game didnt end like you wanted it too,so what ALOT of games dont end the way we want them too,and maybe they wanted the game to end in this way casue there is going to be a mass effect 4.now by making the ending liek it is that would make it easy to set up the stroy for the next game.and even if you dont like what im saying or say im wrong.i dont care i have played all the mass effect games from day out when mass effect 1 came out and you know what.im happy the way it eneded,did some of it confuse me,yes it did.but you know it sill had the mass effect feel to it,was it a messed up ending.yes but show me a war that ends happy good luck were all the people that died come back to life.no in war people dir.and bad things have to happen to end it

So take the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy.  The last movie, one of the final scenses?  Remember that part where Frodo and Sam were siting on the rock above the Lava and you see the giant bird swooping in to save them?  End the movie right there.  Yeap, that's Mass Effect 3's ending.  Great story huh.

yes cause the game had a bad ending that means the rest of the game was crap.right? yeah forget the great story until that one part.the end part didnt kill the rest of the game witch was a great story

It completely kills any kind of replayability for the series.  No matter how you play 1-3.9, everything you do is ultimately futile.  That goes for any future prequels too.

This is correct. Nothing can ever be expanded upon in this series with the current ending unless they add a rubble shifting mini game. Prequels mean nothing. Add ons mean nothing. It was the biggest cop out ending I have ever seen, and the biggest weiner face slap I have ever witnessed.