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On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening.


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K_Tabris

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I loved fighting Kai Leng. The renegade option to say, "This was for Thane," made me very happy that his sacrifice was not ignored. Actually, the game is full of so many awesome moments, it's hard to pinpoint just one favorite. Mordin's death scene was incredibly well done, let's call that tearing up, phase 1...Grunt's mission ending was incredible. I did not expect him to survive, lol. Getting to yell at the V.S. was nicely done, and a very appropriate way to process the Horizon Incident.

Now that the ending has sunk in, and I am no longer raging about it, parts of the ending were awesome. Not anything past the Harbinger-Catalyst child thing, but everything about Earth right up to rushing that beam was incredible.

The most difficult thing for me to accept is not knowing where the Reapers came from. I felt this was very negligent. Actually, many aspects of lore were either forgotten or ignored completely. Perhaps this is a natural consequence of switching main writers, but it just irks me that Casey Hudson doesn't know the lore of the game (which he admits) as much as some of the fans do. Not good.

Untimately, though, I totally loved my experience playing ME3, and don't think people should expect corrective ending dlc. That's a bit too entitled for me =/

I just wish I didn't emotionally explode all over the forums because of choosing the synergy ending. But if anyone is as attached to their Shepard as I am to mine, watching a final death scene is pretty hard punch to the gut. =/

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I see what you're doing here BW and I respect that!
Give the dev some love from me, a hug or anything equal. Even though what I think of the ending I DO love the game (maybe not as a whole) and it gave me so many sweet moments.
I cried a little bit when Mordin died.
When Legion said farewell with thath "I", my chest got heavy.
I felt good when my Shepard and Liara for once had a deep talk.
I laughed at Garrus many times.

This is also why I'm so upset about the ending. Oh well.

/D

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Directed at the people at Bioware

Before I say anything about the rest of the game I have one question. Is there even a chance you fix the endings?

Because we have discussed enough about how the endings suck, and they do. Not because they are sad, because they are crap. Sad ending good, crappy ending bad.
 
So what could you possibly add to it other than admitting it?

Sorry but listening will not be enough this time. Either you do something or not. And if not ... well ... you know.

Edit: Actually there is more wrong with the game than the endings. So I'd say 90% of it was good. The game mechanics were awesome so kudos to those who made them. But the plot was probably weakest of the trilogy. And not really stepped up to expectations. Mostly because you promised so many things and delivered so few.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 15 mars 2012 - 04:11 .


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qdust wrote...
When Admiral Hacket calls a broken bleeding Shepard and her immediate answer is "What do you need me to do."

Nothing could possibly exemplify Shepard better.

How could I have left that out?! Stood out for me too at the time.

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Loved most of the game up until the Kid VI showed up at the end. Oh, and the framerate on the PS3 version bothered me a bit, but that's just nitpicking.

There were moments that made me snort out loud, and others that made me cry like a baby (Mordin's death was well done btw). It was also great hearing music from the previous games.

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"We don't want to discuss this until more people have played the game" = "God damn it you guys shut up so we don't lose any more sales."

BTW, I loved 95% of ME3. But the ending... It killed everything.

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Good to know we're heard.

Good things:


Everything Garrus
Everything Javik
Reaper and Thresher Maw
Shepard's face has more emotions than "neutral" and "smile" >.>
Bugging the salarian with touching his console on Sur'kesh
Heck, everything was awesome, except the bad things below.

Bad things:
Endings > They make no sense, give no closure and are basically the same. (BUT they ruin the entire series for me.)
Thane's poorly treated romance

Modifié par Nerana, 15 mars 2012 - 04:17 .


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Bob5312 wrote...

My last memory of playing a Mass Effect game, the one that is going to stick with me, the overwhelming feeling I'm going to associate with the entire experience forever, is of being bitterly, crushingly disappointed.


:/  Yeah.  And don't forget cheated.

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 I loved basically every moment of every game. And ME3 was my favourite of them all... until the ending. That five minutes destroyed the series for me. But, besides that (if you guys fix it is what I really mean), I loved Mordin and Thane's deaths. Pretty sad, but pretty epic. I also loved all the missions on Rannoch and Tali. :)





Hold the line

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I loved everything in the series until that last 5 minutes. Shepard's journey was really special to me, which made it hurt all the worse at the end. Know that your fans aren't whining because they feel entitled to whine about whatever... They're upset because you made this series so good, only to end it on the note you did.

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I like the part where you respond to your fans issues.

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Zaki1991 wrote...

Craven1138 wrote...

You can't discuss ending - I can't discuss my favorite moments.


+100000000


This is actually something I can support with the current state of my mind.

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Excellent game, now I have an idea regarding what you had in mind with the "ending" ;). however may I ask why you decided to give Tali a poorly photo shopped face? Surely that isn't the final product?

v/r

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Favorite moment? There are so many, Mordins sacrifice, killing Udina, all those easter egg conversations on the Citadel, uniting the Geth and the Quarians, and meeting recurring characters in a meaningful way. All of those were epic moments I will forever cherrish as a gaming experience.

And no, that does not mean I forgive you for the ending which ruined a lot for me.

And I am sorry because it's probably not your intention, but those smiley faces make you seem so arrogant that it annoys the **** out of me. Just...Don't do that okay? I still love you man, I just wish you'd stop abusing me.

Modifié par Zalitara, 15 mars 2012 - 04:12 .


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Atraiyu Wrynn

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 Alright Priestly, I'll play your game (pun seriously unintended).   But I just want to make clear that the positives I can list cannot overcome the awful ending.  I'll focus on one.

Crew Mates (past and present) were spectacular. Garrus has gotten better and better as the series has gone on.  I really feel like he is an old friend and has my back.  Scenes like him and Joker exchanging Turian and Human jokes were phenominal.  All of them felt more real than at any other time in the series.  I can sight dozens of these small scenes where I really was amazed by how effective you've been in making us care about these characters.  This makes their mistreatment in the end harder to take.

The ME2 crew mates obviously get shorter treatment, but I thought they were all well done.  Mordin's death was amazing, and when he started singing I felt so horrible for him, and so proud of him at the same time.  Legion's death was also powerful, as was his last bit of discussion with Tali.  

I was in love with the game until the last 10 minutes.  But my point is, the fact that 99% of the game time wise was great, does not mean the game is 99% awesome.  Those 10 minutes take a sledgehammer to all of your work through all 3 games.  It leaves you wondering why you bothered.

Modifié par Atraiyu Wrynn, 15 mars 2012 - 04:09 .


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In the meantime, let's give appreciation to Commander Shepard. Whether you loved the ME3 ending or didn't or you just have a lot of questions, he/she has given many of us some of the best adventures we have had while playing games. What was your favorite moment? Posted Image



I wish you guys had shown more appreciation to Commander Shepard as a heroic character by not having her turn into a confused wreck at the end who is either: 1) manipulated by the enemy because of plot-induced stupidity or 2) directly mind-controlled by said enemy who, in a bout of plot-induced stupidity, decides to toy with her instead of squashing her like a bug.

The hero was not even allowed a flash of resistance or a glimmer of understanding before the curtain fell.

Frankly, I find holding out for a 'true' ending DLC or a hand-waving explanation of your story arc an insulting prospect. The saga is done - I firmly believe you blew the finale.

Goodbye Commander: I was fully prepared to see you go out in a blaze of glory or defiance.  You entered as a capable soldier, became the Galaxy's flawed champion... and limped off the stage like a chump.

Modifié par Malchat, 15 mars 2012 - 04:09 .


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I'm a United States Marine, I've seen a lot of sights, traveled many miles, blown stuff up and done a lot of crazy stupid ****. Watching a giant thresher maw kill a reaper, then later taking a reaper down ON FOOT ranks as some of the coolest **** I've ever seen. EVER. Liara writing your name in the stars, some of the moments with Tali as your LI... **** I have never felt sappier, they're legitly d'aww moments and I found myself wondering who spilled a Nicholas Sparks novel in my scifi epic, then guiltily admitting I liked it.

I love this game, and I love this series with a passion. I even have swag for it which is a first for video games. I openly refer to Mass Effect as my generation's Star Wars (originals that is, we don't talk about the prequels), a defining scifi trilogy that completely changed the game and that I want my kids to play someday.

That... that more then anything is why the ending being a shoe horned cop out hurts. I'm not angry, or nerd/fanboy raging. I'm just hurt guys. People on the other side of the fence like to make it out as our standards being too high, but 20% of this game was at the level I expect from a Mass Effect game, the other 79% blew that bar away like you strapped a rocket booster to it. So when it falls down in the n hour, the final moments... that final 1% it's like someone kicked your dog.

Still on your side Bioware don't start thinking about this as "Us(the company) vs. You (the fans)" we're here and asking for change because we love you guys, love what you do and love this series with a true and burning passion.

Semper Fi.

PS Killing Udina and the Illusive Man were also incredibly satisfying for some reason, I suspect I've wanted to shoot Udina for most of three games now, so thanks for coming through on the wish fulfillment there <3

Modifié par Ampmaster, 15 mars 2012 - 04:12 .


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There are too many moments to pick a favorite. Mass Effect, even with the ending, is still my favorite story in any universe. Just hope that there is some closure soon.

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it was pure awesomeness until the end! The interactions, mordins death, legions death, the emotional range shepard displayed!!!! I couldnt have loved it more! Which made the end soo much more painful!

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Forgot to say which were my favourite moments, theres a lot of them, but i loved the scene with Liaras project, loved to see a more human and vulnerable side of Shepard, loved to give Tali her homeworld back, and as far as confrontations go, not many things were as powerful as the satisfaction of stabbing Kai Leng.

And now, after finishing the game, all those favourite moments make me sad.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

We appreciate everyone’s feedback about Mass Effect 3 and want you to know that we are listening. Active discussions about the ending are more than welcome here, and the team will be reviewing it for feedback and responding when we can. Please note, we want to give people time to experience the game so while we can’t get into specifics right now, we will be able to address some of your questions once more people have had time to complete the game. In the meantime, we’d like to ask that you keep the non-spoiler areas of our forums and our social media channels spoiler free.
 
We understand there is a lot of debate on the Mass Effect 3 ending and we will be more than happy to engage in healthy discussions once more people get to experience the game. We are listening to all of your feedback.

In the meantime, let's give appreciation to Commander Shepard. Whether you loved the ME3 ending or didn't or you just have a lot of questions, he/she has given many of us some of the best adventures we have had while playing games. What was your favorite moment? :)




:devil:


My favorite part was when the series was ruined for me by a horridly written and horridly needlessly dark ending ripped off from The Matrix, and not the good matrix movie either.

In all honesty though I definitly enjoyed most of the game. Some of the deaths you hear about are done poorly done since they were killed off by e-mail. Thats like breaking up with someone by text mesage. It was fun gathering war assets, finding the conversations on the Citadel and was over-joyed to find out how much dialog you had with Joker.

Sadly I'm starting to forget details of the story. I haven't played since Sunday because the ending was that bad. I see no point in replaying a game with no pay off.

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It's hard for me to choose one moment because there was more than one,
nice to see some feedback and that your listening, was not happy with the endings, I can understand not having a "disney" ending just, would like an ending that has closure and does not leave me with nothing but questions. I am holding out for dlc content to change it possibly, pathetic of me I know, but at least I can still enjoy the games by thinking this way.

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Nerana wrote...

Good things:

Everything Garrus
Everything Javik
Reaper and Thresher Maw
Shepard's face has more emotions than "neutral" and "smile" >.>
Bugging the salarian with touching his console on Sur'kesh
Heck, everything was awesome, except the bad things below.

Bad things:
Endings > They make no sense, give no closure and are basically the same.
Thane's poorly treated romance


Oh yeah, I forgot to mention about Shepard's face portraying more emotions XD
Shepard's shocked look when EDI joked about forgetting to recycle the oxygen was priceless.

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revo76 wrote...

Mr Priestly,

The game was awesome, without endings it's GOTY for me, there's no doubt. I hope and think you already checked this forums about possible ending and plotholes. The people want:

1- No more plotholes for example:

Runaway of Normandy, teleporting squadmates. These are cheap stuff and we have these, ME3 doesnt deserve these endings.

2. Our choices mattered in all series, however whatever we do in ME3, our character is dying. There should be an option the character survives, and we'll have en end just like Dragon Age Origins.

I dont care what's necessary for it, %100 readiness ? Replay whole franchise ? All solutions works for me.


and maybe this can show how much personally i love Mass Effect franchise:

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Oh, and if you make an alternative ending DLC, it would be incredibly awesome to fight TIM as a giant husk, he really reminded me of Saren in our last conversation.