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On the Mass Effect 3 endings. Yes, we are listening.


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the game was great. loved pretty much everything.
the problems i had were, no holstering the weapons, no updating journal. at times videos were long.
but never the less, it was a great game. which brings me to the biggest problem of them all.....

THE ENDING

it really ruined everything from the whole saga. its like a slap in the face that all my decisions were utterly ignored. i want to have the choice how it should end and not 3 endings that end up in the same way.

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Already Posted this back on Page 24 but thought I’d put in a more A,B,C format as Chris requested for your easy reference when your reading through for feedback

Positive main part of the game:

Main game great, fantastic even,

A.) Mordin fate, fantastic, I shed a tear

B.) getting to kill Ki Leng, (that entire level was awesome)

C.) Combat was pretty smooth and a lot faster pace than previous.

Negative parts of the main game:

Few and far between,

A.) I wondered what happened to that Asari I spared on Vermire ME 1 and then again getting Grunt on ME2 but maybe I just missed her.

B.) The Boss fight with the laser Targeter n the Reaper was a little annoying but fine once I got the hang of dodging its beam. A chase sequence from the Geth tank would have been far more exciting

C.) I'd of like a mission to the Elcor home world, rather than a quick scan to get some war assets, from around the system… something like covering a retreating force of Living Tanks or protecting the evac shuttles from the door of a Kodiak like I did with the Quarrians, on Rannoh that would of been awesome.

D.) Grenades thrown by Shepard rarely hit their targets unless I was point blank, maybe a aim system closer to your companions where it auto locks and explodes

F.) Combat is a lot smoother and faster, only problem is having a single action button for movement and using items, occasionally caused me to stick to walls while trying to activate objects (sometimes at very inconvenient times.)

But these Small Gripes aside easily the Best game I have played since I don't remember when.

I loved it, loved escorting the Mako's (shame I couldn't drive one for old times sake make that F.) Drive a Mako.) The story twists, the alliances the war asset mini game.... but then and we all know what’s coming here... THE ENDING

All I can ask is what you were thinking? seriously unless its a planned prelude to this Truth DLC a web article hinted at... really!!! Even if it is, you'd allow an unethical marketing campaign like this where professional (and I use the word loosely) journalists have been attacking your loyal fan base in several different publications, hat alone deserves a public apology!!!!!

But this is feed back so I'll skip to specifics...

Positive of the ending:
Anderson/ Shepard speech, as they sit watching the battle, beautiful! Utterly and moving that’s the one high point the positive.

Negative points of the ending:
A.) Star Child... a gold like AI telling me which colour of galactic destruction I get to commit. This gave NO sense of Closure at all

B.) No way to win, its a game I want to win and all my ending achieve galactic destruction, it would of probably been better if I left it for the Reapers no matter what I do I loose!!!

C.) Where was Harbinger, he could barely keep quite in the last game, this one doesn't say a word, just blasts me without as much as a 'How'd you do'

D.) Destroying the Mass Relays... what the heck, makes all my decisions totally pointless, doesn't matter what species I brought together it'll be 20,000 years before they see each other again and they won't remember if they argued by then, it totally destroys the galaxy I've been trying to protect as much as the reapers would... if not more so

E.) Even without the other consequences people have mentioned, mass galactic death, due to loss of relays. Starvation, the fact Turians and Quarrians can’t eat human food, bare minimum, I kill 15 million people when the Citadel explodes or they starve to death when I turn into a computer and fly off with it... nice.

F.) The massive amount of Plot inconsistencies...
I) Why am I listening to this star Child with no option to tell him to stuff himself,
II) How did my crew end up on the Normandy crashed on another world, inc. the characters 3 feet from me when Harbinger blasted us,
III) This is the Reapers goal to save us from chaos? Because in the chaos of evolution we will always make synthetics who with destroy us... a predictable pattern is not chaos its order.
IV) This is really the Reapers motivation, honestly given every other game, this seems a little altruistic for their motivation I'd of expected the cycle to be purely for their benefit, the whole speech from ME1 by Sovereign about 'You exist because we allow it and you will die because they demand it'
V) The AI destruction theory is a bit wrong, the Prothean mentions they had a war with an AI and won it, and the Geth our either dead at the end or our friends, not to mention EDI, bit of a hole in your logic there Star Child (not that I can tell him this)
VI) Why was Joker piloting the Normandy away from the battle, that’s court martial behaviour right there and if he took the time to pick up the rest of my remarkably uninjured crew and he left me, well that’s field execution time for me.
VII) In the control ending, I just get the Reapers to play nice and leave... surely it would be more logical to have them blast one another or at least drop their shields and hold still while the galactic fleet pummels them? Otherwise they always remain a threat, what if I loose control? With the relays gone, every system is now isolated and vulnerable.
VIII) Then there’s the idea of controlling the Reapers, really, each one is described as an individual and a nation. The geth describe each passing though as titanic and dominating and yet, my puny human mind is able to control them, easily and at will
IX) Further to this, anything controlling the Reapers for that matter, for the reason I've already described, how does that work? A Star child who is the Citadel is there boss. No boss or overlord is ever even hinted at beyond Harbinger and yet it’s the Citadel? This leads me to my next point.
X)The Prothean science team form Ilos altered the signal the Keepers reacted to, to prevent the Reaper invasion... and succeeded. Sovereign had to go to extreme lengths and got itself destroyed trying to activate that Mass Relay to Dark Space, but if the Reapers Boss was the Citadel all along, then why didn't it just activate itself and get the Reapers on the job, a sense of fair play?
XI) Synthesis, all organics and synthetic's fuse becoming part organic or synthetic respectively... how does this work... magic, how can an energy wave possibly alter metals and plastics to working flesh and blood and how can flesh alter to be complex functioning machinery, it makes no sense what-so-ever... besides wasn't this the sort of union the Reapers are and have been trying to force us into. Shepard has been rejecting it for the sake of our individuality... for 3 games!! and its presented as the main choice... a bright glowy light right in front of the player (I admit this add's a lot of credence to the indoctrination theory and would really explain a lot paving the way for special ending DLC this truth expansion pack... but really guys now is the time to come out and admit that as it's upset a lot of people and lead to a lot of arguments and press attacks on your fans as I have already mentioned above)
XII) How is Shepard breathing on the surface of the Citadel without any form of mask/Space helmet or intact hard suit… something Mass Effect 1 established you needed on the surface of the Citadel.



That’s every problem I have and bit of feedback I can think of at the moment I hope it helps and results in a improvement to the game we all loved till the end.

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I think Bioware did a great job with ME3. 

A)  I loved the addition of the powered up melee attack!  As a vanguard I loved charging in blasting dudes with my wraith shotgun, maybe thowing down a nova, and finishing off some cannibal with an omni-tool spike to the face.  I would also try and gauge the health of a brute or banshee in order to do a charge/power melee combo to finish them off.  very cool.

B)  I really liked how the former love interests were handeled and how you could switch to someone new if you wanted.  My Shepherd was a bit of a player and had three interests in three games.  That's how he rolled.

C)  I liked some of the smaller changes like the new planet scanning system, the numerous and customizable guns, the more dynamic level design, and the wider range of enemies.  The level design made a huge difference in dealing with the new enemies and their abilities.  So the combat was great.

D)  The story was excellent (once again).  The Krogan arch and the Geth/Quarian arch were my favorite.  The dialog and the voice acting was superb.  

E)  Some minor annoyances were the quest journal and how it didn't update conistently and was generally less helpful than other journals in Bioware games.  The fetch quest on the citadel were also not terribly fun or innovative.

And... D)...the ending.  I don't know what else I can add to what as been said in this thread and countless others.  So, I'll just say that when I finished the game I did not feel a moment of catharsis, I did not feel like a great journey had come to an end... I was just confused.  I was disappointed that my choices in the series seemed to have no impact on the finale.  I was disappointed that the three endings were so simailar.  Explosion colors, really?  I did not think the ending lived up to how great the series was.  

That is why I will hold the line <3

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One thing that i remebered now, i don't know how many of you guys have seen the anime Evangelion. To pu it short, the anime have 26 episodes. The 25th and 26th episodes SUCKS. SUCKS A LOT. I don't know the reaction of the fanbase at the time, i only saw it far ahead in time, but the ends sucks like the me3 endings. To resume what i undesrtood, in the end everyone "understood" ecah other. From what i understood it was like everyone in humanity became on conciouness and that kinda of crap. I really didin't understood very well. Nevertheless, it looks like the fusion end on ME3.

What i know, is that later, they release two OVA's (especial episodes), with an alternate ending, one that was really awesome. And in this ending, Shinji (the main character), had the option, to choose between the fusion of all humanity, or keep their indivtualities, even tho he knew that people would still suffer and thius kind of thing. And that was what he choose.

I just recentily read things abouot the indocritinated theory, and really hope that bioware is just trolling us, and they wanted this to be part of the experiencia of the game, the catarse on getting this bad ending, and later you have to option to see that all of this was a dream.

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congokurtz wrote...

I think Bioware did a great job with ME3. 

A)  I loved the addition of the powered up melee attack!  As a vanguard I loved charging in blasting dudes with my wraith shotgun, maybe thowing down a nova, and finishing off some cannibal with an omni-tool spike to the face.  I would also try and gauge the health of a brute or banshee in order to do a charge/power melee combo to finish them off.  very cool.

B)  I really liked how the former love interests were handeled and how you could switch to someone new if you wanted.  My Shepherd was a bit of a player and had three interests in three games.  That's how he rolled.

C)  I liked some of the smaller changes like the new planet scanning system, the numerous and customizable guns, the more dynamic level design, and the wider range of enemies.  The level design made a huge difference in dealing with the new enemies and their abilities.  So the combat was great.

D)  The story was excellent (once again).  The Krogan arch and the Geth/Quarian arch were my favorite.  The dialog and the voice acting was superb.  

E)  Some minor annoyances were the quest journal and how it didn't update conistently and was generally less helpful than other journals in Bioware games.  The fetch quest on the citadel were also not terribly fun or innovative.

And... D)...the ending.  I don't know what else I can add to what as been said in this thread and countless others.  So, I'll just say that when I finished the game I did not feel a moment of catharsis, I did not feel like a great journey had come to an end... I was just confused.  I was disappointed that my choices in the series seemed to have no impact on the finale.  I was disappointed that the three endings were so simailar.  Explosion colors, really?  I did not think the ending lived up to how great the series was.  

That is why I will hold the line <3


wow, i totally agree with you mate.

The only thing i'd like to have seen come back would have been planatery exploration levels in the mako.
I would like to ahve been able to choose between the Hammerhead, Mako or shuttle to go find the items mentioned in your point E.

I was also hopping to be able to driv a mako on the last level.
Oh!  that reminds me; my favorite section of massEffect3 was running towards the beam, with Harbinger blasting the crap out of everything!  I know it was simply keep pushing forward, but it felt so realistic and then BLAM! Your out for the count.

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Me: Wait, I'm confused about the ending. So the cops knew that internal affairs were setting them up?

Bioware: What are you talking about? There is nothing like that in there!

Me: Oh, you see when I get bored I make up my own ending. I have a very short attention span.

Bioware: Funny.. you just described what we did.

:innocent:

Modifié par Defiantfa11, 17 mars 2012 - 04:41 .


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Moment that made me go "WTF... Hey... So... LOL, THAT'S WHY!" --

Getting all the stuff so Conrad can build you a peice of the Super Weapon.

Moment that made me go WTF - "Throw controller" ---

The fact that the ending felt like I was replaying the endings of MGS4, Deus Ex HR, FFX, and Dragon Age Origins.... Even with 7500 EMS.

Thing that makes me wanna sell the game? The fact I HAVE to have a Gold Account in Live just to play the only thing that gives the game replayability right now. Multiplayer.

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Just finished ME3 and except for the ending, it was the best game I've ever played. bwFex has a very good and detailed post on why the endings are a disappointment so I will just highlight the biggest let-down for me - my choices in ME1, in ME2 and in ME3 itself, did not seem to matter in the end. So what if Shepard built a kick-ass team and united the galaxy against the reapers? Except for Javik and Liara who fought by my side, the other members of my team could have been sipping margaritas on a beach somewhere, for all the difference they made. Where were Wrex and the krogan when I had to battle waves of marauders? I could have sworn they were on the same beach as the others, except that I'm sure I saw them at the Hammer OFB.

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I'm curious how they're going to build a DLC for this. Conveniently enough, the game still gives you a "Restart at Indoctrination" option on the loading screen, but... is there some sort of struggle to fight it off, or is there external help from a squadmate or something along those lines? It's hard to tell how the reality played out, but it likely was not a pretty sight. You could always try the "Head-into-the-reaper-and-kill-it-from-the-inside" bit, which worked moderately well in ME2 with the dead reaper.

Or do we portal it first to the citadel and hope it goes better without catalysts that look suspiciously like the kid, or illusive men without extreme makeovers?

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My 2 cents.

Man me3 was great. I really feel bad for how distracting they ending has been cause I would really like to come onto the forums and see and talk about all the awesome that the game was. There is no way I could choose a favorite moment. Here's a list of a few.

Tali stepping on rannoch, reuniting the quatrains and geth, tali drunk, tali and Garry's hook up, grunt living through the rachni, thane kicking the crap out of that little b$&?h Kai, me kicking the crap out of that little b@&$h Kai, moradin (everything he did), garrus and James discussing war stories, joker (I always love everything with his character. I bet the is more but it's hard to remember all the awesome.

And because I want to be honest, and I'd like to point out some bad things other than the ending, more than anything else, I really felt earth was kind of a minor battlefield. Admittedly, my expectation was that most of the game was on earth, or that the multiplayer would be resistance forces on palaven, thessia, and earth, and maybe other home worlds. But either way, would have liked to have seen more of these world.

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DominusVita wrote...

Conveniently enough, the game still gives you a "Restart at Indoctrination" option on the loading screen,


What is this crap you speak of?

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R0Gun13 wrote...

Indoctrination theory: Bioware have been indoctrinated by EA

Totally superb game, mired by an ending that did not meet Bioware's excellent standards. Would be nice if we could get a quick explanation why my ship and crew deserted the reaper war, did I not gain their loyalty enough?

Or why synthesis destroyed the mass effect relays? The reason I picked that option was because I had played through the whole game trying to save everyone and as the reapers were an amalgamation of thousands of galactic civilisations I stayed true to character and opted for co-existance.

I take it from this very unexplained series of events in the ending there will be a mass effect 4

Now that makes me happy!


I dont exactly want to reply ME series again as there must be more to come. In the meantime I will go back and replay Baldurs Gate series through again.


I wish there would be an ME4, I know that the reason not to is so it doesn't ruin the series like an over played song, but after the ending of ME3 I can honestly see another game working well to follow up, or even a DLC

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First of all, I love Mass Effect! Every game i played for hours for the ending I would like. And there is no way I can do this in ME3. I would prefer a Disney ending, building a house with Tali on her homeworld. But not all was bad. The moment with Mordin befor he took the elevator. The moment with Thane in Huerta Hospital... sad moments but good story.
Than the scene with Grunt killing the Reaper-Rachni and then coming back to the shuttel.
The personal times with the crew on Citadel and so on...
But the ending... realliy guys? I know you can do it better than this.
And sorry for my english, it is not my nativ language.

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Sorry, not in the mood...

Still too upset by the ending that kill the replayability... I'm only left with a multiplayer with the same few maps/missions and the same generic enemies... feels like a last stand...

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Multiple saves; Paragon male, and all romances, Rengade Male and all romances, Femshep Renegade romanced Liara. Femshep Paragon, Romanced Liara.

None of which I want to replay in ME3.
Why would I, when we get the SAME DAMN ENDING?
Same with DLCs, you have to be joking to expect me to buy ANY DLC to "extend my game play" so that can re-experience that ending.

Modifié par Archonsg, 17 mars 2012 - 04:59 .


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RobinEJ wrote...

I'm from Poland. But today I totally agree with Hitler:



Hilarious! Did you ever see the Blu-Ray Star Wars one? 

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Man, it's hard to even get excited about a potential Mass Effect movie now.

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Marinemike69 wrote...

It seems EA has "assumed control" of bioware rather well.

Hold the line people!

 
Remember Westwood? And Origin Systems? And Interplay? Yeah........

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Mcfly616 wrote...

Better?


Yea much!.. read now and agree with you.

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R0Gun13 wrote...

I just replayed the final battle again last night and chose a different ending!

Yea..!

After the talk with the child/ghost/illusion/dream thing I decided to just stand there, sit back and watch the destruction of earth and the entire galactic fleet. I realise now I was indoctrinated from the moment I talked to Sovereign and I gathered all the galactic forces to their doom.

Actually the battle is still going on, the same 3 reapers and 5 dreadnoughts are still circling the citadel. Been doing that for nearly 16 hours now, although they may have had a tea break, I wouldnt know as the game's been minimised on my desktop.

Plus I didnt want to destroy the relays


Actually you get a Critical Mission Failure message because the Crucible is destroyed. This pops up after a while, I don't remember how long, but it was more like 10 minutes than 16 hours.

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Archonsg wrote...

 What I was led to believe from the start of the Mass Effect Series was to have an ending like this :

(Version 1.01b Paragon Shepard Dies)
Been thinking about the ending a bit more and about that first one I came up with. And thought it was pretty weak. so here’s another attempt, though this time Shepard dies. 

*note : Most people Should get this ending. I do have a “Paragon Shepard Lives” ending scenario floating up in my noggin but that will be done another day, maybe. :) 

Also my version of events scraps everything right after the combined Galactic fleet enters Earth space, assumes the player has completed all side quests and has at least 3300 EMS. 
Why only 3300? 
I feel that “forcing” players to play Multi-player just to get the “best” possible ending is rubbish. Higher EMS just skews a slightly different cut scene of your ground troops.Higher EMS = more varied troops based on which races you have recruited to the cause. 

The trigger on what causes Shepard to  live or die however I’ll post later. 
This ending also assumes you have saved every companion in ME2 (just mentally edit them out if you got yourskilled) and Assumes that certain paths are followed in ME3. Again you can mentally edit those characters out of the cut scenes if yours are absent or dead. 

Liara assumed to be LI and Shepard to be male. (just switch him for her if your Shepard is female) Also this is an entire “re-write” of events in London.
So no, I don’t follow the Shepard was indoctrinated” school of thought. Sorry shep-zombie fans. 
And no Star Child crap either. Sorry Bioware. 

Scenario:  
Cut Scene 

Combined Galactic ground forces consisting of all the forces and assets Shepard has gathered. Krogan on Keiosaur mounts charging, Geth and Quarian engineers setting up hack proof auto turrets, mercs fighting dirty in hand to hand, pistol shot to the face combat, Turian and Human infantry and armor supported by Asari commandoes and Grissom Academy (Jack!) Biotics form a linked shield system and together they all carve a path and finally take down the Guardian at the Conduit. 

Shepard and team go in, and it’s a race find the master control and open the Citadel Arms so that that Crucible can dock. 
Shepard and team fights way to Citadel central command room which EDI helps to pin point. Within the Citadel itself Shepard faces a combined force of indoctrinated Cerberus forces and reaper forces.  

Midpoint : 
Cut Scene.

Harbinger’s holo appears and in the course of talking to it. Player learns that the Citadel is not only a huge mass relay, it is also the Reaper’s command and control centre from which the reapers direct their systematic “cycles” and that means it’s also one big galactic broadcasting device and that some ancient race finally figured this out and came up with the Crucible which is essentially one big “signal booster” .  

This old race figured out that you can send a kill switch from the Citadel but such a signal would only effects its local space for the kill switch to work, the signal needs to be sent simultaneously across the galaxy using the Mass Relays as piggy back signal towers.

Shepard also learns that the Reapers were once AI meant to protect a race, created at a time when there was another war of organics and Synthetics.
The AI’s primary directive was to Protect and dictate the race’s war efforts. In the course of time the AI decided that to win the war against Synthetics, organics had to become Synthetics themselves and thus the Reapers and Cycles came about.

Harbinger shows nothing but disdain for Shepard, for all organics. It demands that Shepard submit as it is the only way to salvation that it is the only logical outcome.

Shepard tells it to go to hell. 

Harbinger then tells Shepard that Organic life in this Cycle had become too much of a problem, that order was disrupted when Sovereign was destroyed and later the planned entry point in Batarian space blocked. 
That it has decided that the best solution for the current situation now, is for the galaxy to reboot itself and life and the Cycle can start anew.

Shepard is confused by what it meant till Admiral Hackett communicates that reports are coming in that EVERY Mass Relay is powering up, gathering Charge at a rate that would when would make each relay go critical and cause Ultra Super Novas in every system that holds a Mass Relay.
Everyone is shocked and horrified by the implications.

Harbinger gloats that order will be restored and the Cycle can start anew again. 

Shepard Speech.Chooses final Squad members and assigns the rest to rear guard to cover his back and come up behind when they can.
Player fights to last checkpoint.

Meets Illusive man who holds the final key to unlocking the Citadel. Illusive man tries takes control of Shepard’s implants. 
Illusive Man Makes Shepard shoots both squad members and they are out of combat (not dead)
If Love interest is in squad however, Shepard finds strength to resist after he shoots the first squad member and the illusive man tries to make Shepard shoot his LI. (Love has to count for something ya?) 

Boss Fight. 
One on One Shepard vs Illusive man or two vs one if Shepard is with LI 
Shepard wins, Illusive Man slumps to the ground.

Cut Scene. 

Harbinger arrives too late at the Conduit but starts blasting at ground troops. (poor EMS = more die, not just nameless troops but Jack, Grunt, Wrex and any other non-squad companions from previous games at the scene, we will however assume high EMS for this cutscene) 

More Reaper Destroyers land with Harbinger and starts blasting as well.
Jack plays mother hen and orders Asari commandoes around to help bolster the linked shields so that ground forces can hold ground. She refuses to leave but realise her shields cannot withstand a direct hit from a Reaper canon. Reluctantly leaves when Miranda tells her, “Shepard will find a way, he always does.”

Meanwhile on the Citadel, Shepard with EDI’s help shuts down the Relay Nova sequence and finds the kill switch.Harbinger’s Avatar appears one last time, but this time it shows fear. It knows death is imminent and it doesn’t want to die. Harbinger admits that perhaps its assessment is wrong and gives Shepard a choice, instead of killing every reaper, Shackle them. 
Each Reaper would then beHumanity’s tool and weapon against anything or anyone, organic or synthetic. Through them, Humanity would achieve power unimaginable and through humanity’s control of the reapers, order be imposed on all organic life. (Renegade Choice of course)  

Shepard refuses. 
Takes the Paragon path and triggers the kill switch. 

THE CITADEL DOES NOT BLOW UP, BREAK APART OR GETS DESTROYED.

The signal goes off and Every Reaper in Earth Space flatlines, including Harbinger. Now that the Earth space is safe and cleared of Reapers, the Crucible goes through its docking sequence shedding its protective armor anddocks. (I ALWAYS hated that part in the original Ending. WHAT Military Genius decides to try and dock a “soft” target in the middle of a fire fight while your “air space” isn’t clear of bogies and hostiles? You still have REAERS around the Citadel firing Reaper beams left and right and you want to advertise “hey guys over here …SHOOT ME!!!”) 

(Final moments / epilouges)

Garrus : “So Shepard, do the honours?”

Shepard: “I thought you’d do it, I mean, isn’t that why you calibrate stuff so much?”

Garrus : “The guns. Are. On. The. Normandy Shepard.” ”But now that you mentioned it, why not? I could never resist pushing big red buttons... Uhhh There is a big red button right?” 

EDI. : “No Garrus. Just your standard VI overlay” 

Garrus : “Pity. Well Palaven isn’t free of Reapers yet while we stand here talking.” *reaches up and touches controls*

Signal beam goes out to the Charon Relay, Relay pulses then shoots out beam to other Relays.

”RELAYS ARE NOT DESTROYED.*

Pretty colour signal rings Galactic map display depicting each relay receiving and sending the kill switch out. Reapers across the Galaxy flatlines. Cheers from groundtroops in Palaven, Asari on Thessia, everywhere, troops emerge bloodied but not beaten. 


*Everyone in room cheers*
Ashley : “We did it! We finally did it! Its all because of you Shepard, I am sorry I doubted ….”

*Rapid auto gun fire. Shepard’s Shields flare then in slow motion, HEAD SHOT*

Liara : “Goddess! Noooooooo…”

*everyone turns to see a shakily Illusive man standing with a modified machine pistol in hand .. Everyone unloads their weapons into Illusive man. All except Liara who is cradling Shepard and crying. 

*Fade to black.*
*scene opens 5 years later. We see a small Asari child playing in the grass on Thessia laughing and giggling with another Asari child. She turns when she hears someone approaches and it is Liara and Matriarch Aethyta.  One of the girls run up to Liara.* 

Child : “Mother, Aria here says that everyone is nice to me only because my father is famous. Why do you never talk of him? 

Liara : “Oh Hannah, *breathes in deeply* your father was the most important man in the galaxy. He is why we still have Thessia, our home.”

Hannah : “Aria says he’s human. Aria’s mother says humans are at best centuary flings. I don’t understand….*looks up and sees Liara in tears* I am sorry mommy. I didn’t mean to make you cry. *stays silent for a few seconds* What was he like, my father?” 

Liara : “He was …he was….*breaks down and cries*

Aethyta : “ He was  a man. Had a quad on him for sure but he had heart, he….."

*scene cuts to Garrus at SPECTRE Academy*

Garrus : “ … was not just a SPECTRE, he was THE SPECTRE. I was there when he took down Saren, when at the time we Turians still thought all humans were only good as canon fodder."

Spectre trainee: “But sir, surely he was JUST a human....”

Garrus : "Son, on Rannoch, Shepard played tag with a reaper, on foot. He won. *touches side of his face* You see this, got this from a Gunship’s rocket in Omega. Shepard took it down, with small arms and saved my life. No, I learned from the best and that was Shepard.  I learned that no matter how good you are, nothing is better than a true friend guarding your back and Shepard was …” 

*scene cuts to Wrex and Grunt*

Wrex : “….an Honorary Krogan because I made him so! Arrrhharrhahhaaa!”

Grunt : “Bah, I knew that before you. You were there, he fought beside me on my Rites of Passage and at the time he said he was “my krant” *does finger air quotes* …huh. When that Thresher Maw popped up and he didn’t flinch, just stared down that big ass rifle of his and shot, I knew then, that he’s no one’s Krant. That I was lucky to be in his.”

Krogan : “Clan Utnev says The Shepard is human and they spit on humans.” 

Wrex Grunt : “SHEPARD IS URDNOT! Shepard is why our women are whole again!

Grunt : "WHO IS SHEPARD?!!"

Krogans :" URDNOT!!"

Grunt : "AND WHAT WILL MAKE THEM SAY WHEN WE STOP ON UTNEV'S BONES??!"

Krogans : "SHEPARD IS ....."

*scene cuts to Tali. ALL Qurians have their helmets off*

Tali : “ ….the most compassionate man I know.” 

Quarian girl : "What is it like travelling with the humans? With Shepard?

Tali: “Trying. Often you just want to shoot them. *she grins* sometimes I don’t get them but when I see Shepard I see the best humanity has to offer. Let me tell you of a story about a Quarian named Lia’Vael nar Ulnay a young quarian girl on her pilgrimage. She went to the citadel but before long, her money was stolen, she was beaten and people spat on her. All because she was Quarian. We met her while a Csec officer and a Volus had her held for questioning and NO ONE wanted to help. Shepard did. He cared. He didn’t see us as Quarians or aliens but as people. As someone of worth and Lia was someone worth helping. I asked him afterwards, why did he helped. He just said “Its what I do.” *Tali falls silent for a bit, eyes with a far away look, wishful*

Quarian girl : “Was he dreamy? *giggles* 

Tali : *flushed* “Uhhh.... what? …Shepard was …” 

*scene cuts to Aethyta*

Aethyta : “…. Many things to many people. But most of all he was hope. He never stopped trying. They took away his ship, they took away his command they took everything that he was but they could not take away his spirit. Your mother loves him very much because of that spirit. Hell, if she had not already claimed him, I would have been tempted to myself! Bet I can teach him a thing or two…” 

Liara : “Aethyta!”

*Hannah climbs into Liara’s lap*

Hannah : “He sounds wonderful. I wish he was here.”

Liara : *wraps arms around Hannah and hugs her tightly* “We all do, little dove, we all do.”

*FADE TO BLACK*

END CREDIT ROLL.

(Only did those few companions, would have Samara, Jack, Miranda, everyone who is still alive retelling Shepard as they saw him..... Different "memories if Shepard was Renegade and of course a VERY diffent one if Shepard Lives)


BUT ... instead, we got this :

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Genius! I can finally rest now 

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captainbob8383

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N-Seven wrote...
Man, it's hard to even get excited about a potential Mass Effect movie now.


Yeah, in fact it's hard to even get excited about anything  Mass Effect now. The ending killed the series, plain and simple. 
You wanted to make the ending memorable, you achieved the exact opposite: people want to forget it, and even forget the whole game. You make us wanting we never played the series, good memories became too painful.

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Frank0605

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I've been reading some fan made endings that are 100x better than the actual ending. wth was the writer thinking seriously -.- .

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How can I think of replaying ME3 when I know the endings are this bad? All the choices I've made from 1 (xbox360) 2(pc) and 3(pc) mean didly squat! All the endings are the same bad ending with no closure and show nothing of the story we have played out.

I replayed ME1 and 2 almost a dozen times each, but 3 just killed the franchise for me. Not even Deus Ex had me this let down.

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KobaTali wrote...

The fact that the ending felt like I was replaying the endings of MGS4, Deus Ex HR, FFX, and Dragon Age Origins.... Even with 7500 EMS.
 


At least in Deus Ex HR you were only taking out the artic base you were on if you chose to let humanity decide on it's own. ME3 has you destroying all of the habitable planets in the known universe and their species, leaving one small bastion of life on some distant unknown and luckly placed garden world. I think it's a more depressing ending than if the reapers had won!